I know bourbon is sweeter than scotch, but then a cup of black coffee is sweeter than scotch too. However, all bourbon is aged in charred oak barrels, and that does give it a hint of smoky flavor, which my sensitive palate can detect. That's why if I have to drink an American whiskey made mostly from corn I'll drink Tennessee whiskey, like Jack Daniels, because it's charcoal filtered. That helps remove a little more of the smoky flavor.

Fuck Kentucky and their fucking bourbon - unless I'm on a jag and there's nothing else around. I'll drink girly peppermint schnapps before bourbon, and that sweet, syrupy shit is pretty damn low on my list.
In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Now I know you're a Yankee. Bourbon isn't typically smokey. What bourbon are you drinking? It's typically made from mash and is sweeter.

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Really? I kid about Canadian whiskey - Crown Royal, Pendleton, and Tangle Ridge are all great tasting, and even regular old Canadian Club and VO are pleasing to my palate. I know there are a few people out there who dismiss Canadian whiskey because they claim it's too 'light' in flavor, and for the cheap shit that's true. But a glass of good Canadian hooch, especially the higher end stuff like Gibson's and Wiser's, can stand toe to toe with whiskey made anywhere else on Earth, IMHO.

Scotch and bourbon both taste too smoky to me, but they'll do if there's nothing else around.
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Lol, I've only had bourbon once and it didn't really impress me. I still haven't had any Canadian whiskey. Weird, eh?

Now I know you're a Yankee. Bourbon isn't typically smokey. What bourbon are you drinking? It's typically made from mash and is sweeter.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
Really? I kid about Canadian whiskey - Crown Royal, Pendleton, and Tangle Ridge are all great tasting, and even regular old Canadian Club and VO are pleasing to my palate. I know there are a few people out there who dismiss Canadian whiskey because they claim it's too 'light' in flavor, and for the cheap shit that's true. But a glass of good Canadian hooch, especially the higher end stuff like Gibson's and Wiser's, can stand toe to toe with whiskey made anywhere else on Earth, IMHO.

Scotch and bourbon both taste too smoky to me, but they'll do if there's nothing else around.
In reply to this comment by Fusionaut:
Lol, I've only had bourbon once and it didn't really impress me. I still haven't had any Canadian whiskey. Weird, eh?

Ahhh, I love the smokiness of scotch, but there are some scotches that have more sherry-like flavours than the peaty flavours. Aberlour's Abunudh is a nice one that only has a hint of peat. If you can get your hands on a MaCallan that's a really nice whiskey with no smoke at all.

Anyways, I'll see if I can taste some of that Gibson's or Wiser's soon. We can compare notes
In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
Really? I kid about Canadian whiskey - Crown Royal, Pendleton, and Tangle Ridge are all great tasting, and even regular old Canadian Club and VO are pleasing to my palate. I know there are a few people out there who dismiss Canadian whiskey because they claim it's too 'light' in flavor, and for the cheap shit that's true. But a glass of good Canadian hooch, especially the higher end stuff like Gibson's and Wiser's, can stand toe to toe with whiskey made anywhere else on Earth, IMHO.

Scotch and bourbon both taste too smoky to me, but they'll do if there's nothing else around.
In reply to this comment by Fusionaut:
Lol, I've only had bourbon once and it didn't really impress me. I still haven't had any Canadian whiskey. Weird, eh?

Really? I kid about Canadian whiskey - Crown Royal, Pendleton, and Tangle Ridge are all great tasting, and even regular old Canadian Club and VO are pleasing to my palate. I know there are a few people out there who dismiss Canadian whiskey because they claim it's too 'light' in flavor, and for the cheap shit that's true. But a glass of good Canadian hooch, especially the higher end stuff like Gibson's and Wiser's, can stand toe to toe with whiskey made anywhere else on Earth, IMHO.

Scotch and bourbon both taste too smoky to me, but they'll do if there's nothing else around.
In reply to this comment by Fusionaut:
Lol, I've only had bourbon once and it didn't really impress me. I still haven't had any Canadian whiskey. Weird, eh?

That's funny -- Voyager is what drove me away from Star Trek!



Best Voyager line ever was Sarah Silverman demanding, "Who are you people, and what is that thing in your pants?" That, plus Jennifer Lien of the smoky voice, is what I took from the show. The rest (including Two of 36-D) is best forgotten.

>> ^kasinator:

quality the total irony is voyager was what had gotten me into star trek. now I look at it in embarrassment.

What does he think, there's this religious cabal out there plotting ways to make atheists look bad? It just seems to be a bit paranoid to think of a bunch of imams, rabbis, priests, pastors, shamans, etc. getting together in some smoky room to figure out ways to screw atheists over. - SDGundamX


Um, Yes, That's exactly their plan - have you not been to church lately?
The only plan that's in place is conversion. Every "non-believer" out there has a target for religion painted on their forehead. And for those that are dissident enough to actually stand up and be vocal that something is wrong about religion, they become targets for degradation.

If you have not "found God yet", then religion takes pity on you and offers you the "Kingdom of God!"
If you see through religion, you are looked down upon as a lost soul. You will not be invited to be with all your friends and family in the afterlife and will be tortured in Hell for eternity.

So, Yes, I'd say there is some "Plotting" going on...

@MilkmanDan

I agree with everything you said. It's too bad there are atheists who do the same exact thing in reverse--make stereotypical judgments about people who are religious, such as they're all uneducated, domination-seeking, closed-minded, deluded bigots.

Also, he thinks "it's a trap deliberately set" for atheists? Set by who? What does he think, there's this religious cabal out there plotting ways to make atheists look bad? It just seems to be a bit paranoid to think of a bunch of imams, rabbis, priests, pastors, shamans, etc. getting together in some smoky room to figure out ways to screw atheists over. MilkmanDan's point that all labels can be used both descriptively and pejoratively seems way more plausible.

Finally, I think there is definitely a need to distinguish atheists (i.e. people who don't believe in a deity or deities) from people like Sam Harris and the other "new atheists" who are on a crusade to destroy religion. The term militant atheism is not an attempt to subvert Sam's argument; it's a practical necessity to differentiate his ideas and the people who share them from those atheists who aren't hostile to religion.

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>> ^Sarzy:

What about the hatch? I don't think there was anything about the hatch that was left completely ambiguous -- that seems to be one of the few elements on the show that didn't really leave any lingering questions. Am I forgetting something?

Here's a few unanswered questions about the hatch:

Why did the Dharma initiative want to build it? Why did they think it was important, and needed to be kept secret? What was the significance of the numbers? Why did the door say Quarantine on it? What did "the Button" actually do, and why did it need to be pushed every 108 minutes? Why did hieroglyphs appear on the countdown clock when it was finally allowed to reach zero? What started happening when the clock reached zero? What happened when Desmond activated the failsafe? What was the failsafe? Why did Desmond start seeing flashes of the future from that point forward? Was he really seeing the future? Did the hatch have anything to do with the smoke monster/light plotline? Did the "others" know or care about what was going on with the hatch? Did Jacob have any sort of position or interest in what happened in the hatch?

What effect did the nuclear bomb set off at the base of the hatch before it was built have, other than sending everyone back to the "present"? Was the button version of the hatch built as a direct consequence of what our own merry band of castaways did in the 70's?

Don't get me wrong, I understand that shows will pointedly try to get you to forget stuff a few years back that doesn't fit the story they've decided to tell in the present. The hatch and the numbers were ancient history, and I can forgive them for pretending like it doesn't matter anymore.

I'm mostly annoyed that even stuff they brought up in just the last two seasons didn't get any kind of explanation or payoff, like the nuclear bomb last season, and the central conflict between Jacob and his smoky adversary this season. I expected them to at least try to build a new internally consistent mythology, and try to retcon in as much of the previous seasons as possible.

Instead we got "none of this matters" as our big explanation for what's been happening on the island. Meh.

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"Stumblin' In", a duet recorded in 1978 for RSO Records with Chris Norman of the band Smokie reached a #4 peak in the U.S.

She is known in the United States for her role as Leather Tuscadero on the TV show Happy Days. Show producer Garry Marshall offered the role without an audition after seeing her on his daughter's bedroom wall. Leather was the younger sister of Fonzie's girlfriend, hot-rod driver Pinky Tuscadero. Leather fronted an all-girl rock band joined by principal character Joanie Cunningham. The character returned in other cameo roles, including once for a date to a fraternity formal with Ralph Malph. Marshall offered Quatro a Leather Tuscadero spin-off, but she refused, saying she did not want to be typecast.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzi_Quatro

>> ^FNORDcinco:
>> ^EndAll:
>> ^Sagemind:
A very smooth and smoky feel to her voice!

Indeed.. although I've noticed during some of these videos she seems to lack any emotion - at times her face is entirely devoid of any expression. But aye, a very nice voice, and it complements Jack's quite well when they sing together. Great duo here, with a bright future ahead of 'em, it seems.

It takes a lot of focus to sing like that and you are spoiled by music videos and lip syncs.


I actually despise most (mainstream) music videos, and detest lipsyncing.
But no, you have me all figured out don't ya! I'm not saying her voice isn't good, it is - it's very lovely in fact.
She's just not my type of musician.. too detached and nonchalant. Doesn't seem to really feel what she sings. This song isn't the best example, as it doesn't require much exuberance, but it's not just in this one that I've noticed it.

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>> ^EndAll:
>> ^Sagemind:
A very smooth and smoky feel to her voice!

Indeed.. although I've noticed during some of these videos she seems to lack any emotion - at times her face is entirely devoid of any expression. But aye, a very nice voice, and it complements Jack's quite well when they sing together. Great duo here, with a bright future ahead of 'em, it seems.


It takes a lot of focus to sing like that and you are spoiled by music videos and lip syncs.

Years ago one of my neighbors got a whip from the Smokies and whipped himself in the face, leaving a scar.