While Shawn/Vecini/Zek did a fine job describing the hard-line Isreali side of the debate, he did VERY little to describe the hard-line Arab position the Isrealis are forced to deal with.

Whether you think the 'world' should have given the Jews Isreal after World War 2 or not is academic. What is done is done and Isreal - for better or for worse - is there to stay. No amount of hand-wringing, moaning, and bellyaching is going to change that fact. Unless you subscribe to the need for a second holocaust then Isreal as a Jewish State is an immutable reality that must be accepted.

The REAL problem here is not Isreali 'lopsided responses' when attacked. The real problem is the fact that Isreal is making a VERY simple request. "Accept Isreal as a Jewish State". And that simple request is flatly rejected by Palestine, Iran, Egypt, and pretty much every player in the game. I mean, get real. Isreal could respond to Arab attacks by lobbing kittens, cottonballs, and dryer lint and they'd still get massive hate for it.

It is all well and good to belly ache about the ‘hardline Isreali stance’. But to completely ignore that the hardline Arab stance is FAR more extremist does nothing to advance this discussion. Until the Arab world is willing to go on the record and acknowledge Isreal as an official Jewish state then there is really nothing to discuss at all. If they can’t even bring themselves to allow Isreal to EXIST then this whole issue is pointless. There can be no peace when the hardline Arab position is so extreme. And you know what? That ISN'T Isreal's fault.

Hehe, I lawled

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>> ^ponceleon:
It is all kind of awesome that
A) everyone recognized the quote immediately
B) no comments about the actual topic


C) Everyone is pissed at ponceleon for beating us to the punch.

>> ^NetRunner:
This was more of a "Never get involved in a land war in Asia" clip.


Was this part of a greater video guide to playing Risk then?

Agree the notion of assymetrical casualties sounded a bit unfounded but I think the greater issue he was trying to make was that in a state of mind of perpetual struggle against, still perhaps in the mindset of many Israelis, people they believe they have not wronged in any way, any form of retaliation, and therefore any degree of loss of life on behalf of the Palestinians that may result is entirely justifiable. Whether that belief comes from some kind of religious validation or a selective historical outlook that ignores the occupation since 1967, or some other justification is uncertain. The main point though is, if it's a perpetual war and there is supposedly no perspective for a ceasefire, then casuality numbers lose any relevance in an endless struggle.

As much as I would like to hope that the Israeli people and their politicans will see through the counterproductive effect of their continued occupation and further building of settlements, I'm much more inclined to believe that people stuck in a particular situation simply become more deadset in their views and develop a more rigid us versus them mentality that prohibits any form of comprimise.

>> ^longde:
Very succinct and TRUE summary of the situation.
What was new to me was the explanation of the Israeli justification of assymetric casualties. Great sift.


I really don't get the asymmetry point... ponceleon makes an excellent one, however!

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>> ^ponceleon:
It is all kind of awesome that
A) everyone recognized the quote immediately
B) no comments about the actual topic


C) Everyone is pissed at ponceleon for beating us to the punch.

>> ^longde:
Very succinct and TRUE summary of the situation.
What was new to me was the explanation of the Israeli justification of assymetric casualties. Great sift.


i disagree with that justification.
you would think that for a people that suffered so greatly in so many terrible ways would at LEAST have the cognitive understanding what they are perpetrating on another people.
the term "jewish people" is not an entirely representative statement.there are many jewish nationalities.which particualr jewish tribe was promised isreal by the british empire?khazars,newly converted.
does that make them any less jewish?of course not.
i only state these things to lend context to an otherwise entangled situation.
before the amended balfor declaration 3 million lived in jerusalem peacefully,christian,jew and muslim,that changed with the balfor declaration.
so i do agree with his premise on the wrongs of empirialism,and its long-lasting affects.
but i heartily disagree with his justification for it assumes that all jews are the same.they are not.

>> ^ponceleon:
INCONCEIVABLE!

When this movie came out a friend of mine didn't think it was remotely as good as SotD.

Turns out that friend simply lacks a very strong sense of humor, because when I did watch this (thanks Netflix,) I laughed my ass off. I almost think this was BETTER than Shawn of the Dead. Perhaps not quite so 'instant classic' but a great movie. Had awesome special features too.

I love this movie so... and Shawn of the Dead too!

I'll be playing this one, especially since Shawn Elliot is contributing to the design. Bioshock was fun, but it got repetitious, and my biggest complaint was about how little use of water there was for a game set in an underwater city. The sequel looks to have rectified that issue.

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True Blood Main Title Sequence
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DK Credits:
Creative Directors: Matt Mulder, Rama Allen. Live Action Direction: Rama Allen, Morgan Henry, Matthew Mulder, Matt Clark, Tevor Fife; Designers: Rama Allen, Shawn Fedorchuck, Ryan Gagnier, Matthew Mulder, Camm Rowland, Ryan Rothermel, Jacques Broquard; Compositor: Ryan Gagnier; Editor: Shawn Fedorchuck; Producers: Morgan Henry, Kipp Christiansen, Keir Moreano; ECD Paul Mattheaus; EP: Mark Bayshore

I could totally see a scene like this in Shawn of the Dead II

I'd say this is my third favorite Zombie movie behind 28 Days Later and Shawn of the Dead.