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Stephen Colbert Considers Fleeing America

moonsammy says...

Network tv, so this may well have been a giant product placement along exactly those lines. You've fallen right into their folksy trap!

eric3579 said:

...and now ill be off to listen to some Gordon Lightfoot.

Questions for Statists

VoodooV says...

wow...so many claims...but so little to back it up.

The biggest one is in the beginning where the woman builds up what a human being is, then dismisses gov't as if it's some sort of external alien enemy that's been forced on us.

But wait! What is gov't? Wasn't it built by....gasp! Human beings? The very thing this woman is building up as so awesome and able do stuff on it's own? A long long long time ago, a bunch of humans got together and saw the world around them and decided they needed some sort of regulating system and viola!

So what do you think would happen if gov't magically went away? Maybe the exact same thing? But this video makes the claim that gov't is bad. so maybe we should tell people they can't make a gov't. That would require some sort of..edict....or....law? But wait...who would enforce this law of no government? some sort of...government?

I've always loved those arguments based on the idea that our current system isn't perfect, therefore that is adequate justification for complete eradication of the current system and put something we know wouldn't work in it's place. You can't solve complex problems with simple solutions. That's hopefully the biggest thing society learns right now. Sarah Palin is the perfect example of that. So hopefully it's her example that will finally put the nail in the coffin in this idea that "folksy" simple solutions just don't work in a modern society.

But hey. If the non-statists are serious. They are obviously free to leave all these governments and leave it all behind and forge out on their own on some uninhabited island. Obviously they won't do that though.

They're too comfortable in our existing system despite it's flaws. How else are they going to blog their message using youtube unless they are in some sort of government controlled nation that has such technology cheaply available to its citizens? They're like the creationists that deny science, yet gladly use systems created by advanced science to spread their message and would never give up the benefits of said science.

I agree. Someday, people are going to figure out how to get along with each other without outside regulation. Someday gov't just simply won't have anything left to do. But that day is the day when we stop being human beings and become something else. Because right now, human beings are generally dicks to other human beings if they know they can get away with it. And we've decided we don't like it when human beings do dickish things to other human beings so we created a governing system to help deal with that. Sure it isn't perfect, but it's better than the alternative.

Probably the best Prince cover ever

Rep. Franson compares food stamp recipients to wild animals

Buh bye Sarah Palin!

Ann Coulter Calls Kindergarten Teachers ‘Useless’

Phreezdryd says...

Again with the trashing of someone advocating for workers rights.
I feel sorry for the hard working teacher who you'd think would know better than to listen to the folksy useless crapola spouted by Palin. And listening to Ann Coulter? Some form of brain damage must be involved.

Rick Perry: Economic Crisis is OK, Because It Is God's Will

Jon Stewart Exposes Mainstream Media Bias Against Ron Paul

blankfist says...

@dystopianfuturetoday, are these news outlets also part of the big corporations you claim "inform my politics"? Looks like the corporations don't much care for Libertarianism even when mixed with a folksy dose of Conservatism. They do love them some status quo like Romney, Bachmann and, oh yeah, even Obama gets his day in the sun.

In case you're foggy what I mean, let me cite that for you.

Probably one of the best Ron Paul interviews I've seen!

jmzero says...

Ron Paul has a couple huge good ideas. Obviously the US needs to cut its military. Obviously they need to get spending under control.

And then he has some libertarian silliness. Opting out of medicare (or social security) sounds fine as a general idea. Sounds like freedom. But people will gamble their lives this way, and when they do either the system will get cheated (eg. firefighters will put out your house even though you didn't pay your voluntary firefighting coverage) or we'll have outcomes nobody wants (eg. burnt houses, dead children, starving and homeless seniors). Maybe that sounds melodramatic, but that's what we're talking about.

And when I've seen Ron pressed on this kind of thing before, he's retreated to some fairly eye-rolling crap - like "Oh, in my day, doctors would do work for free for people who really need it". Again, that sounds fine and folksy and nice, but doesn't really fit the bill in large scale practice. You can't run a system predicated on "the exceptions" being handled by good will and spontaneous co-operation.

In Canada (where I live), 1000 unwilling healthy people who would, on their own, probably choose to spend very little on health care effectively subsidize one person with a strange and expensive illness. Why should they have to pay for that unlucky person? It's not a fair situation.

But it's the best alternative I can think of.

And I find it baffling how many right-leaning Americans I talk to who are both Christian and staunchly against having to help someone in desperate medical need (especially if it's something that's "their own fault" - it shouldn't be possible, apparently, to get medical help if you are a smoker or obese or have "Bad AIDS"). And they try to reconcile that crap with their professed beliefs - garbage like "Oh, Jesus was all about personal responsibility" or something.

In one of the few things where some Jesus thinking could really help public policy, so many nominal Christians are just super happy to ignore the guy - because it's not fair if their money gets wasted on saving people's lives.

Sarah Palin: Paul Revere Warned the British

jmzero says...

I was deeply disappointed that Obama didn't get the US out of its disastrous wars, and I'm dumbfounded at how little has been done to address the horribly imbalanced US health care system. I think Obama's failure to deal with budget problems (mostly, again, war is the problem) constitutes the beginning of a serious threat to civilization. I'm no Obama fan.

I thought that young Bush got a lot of undeserved flak for some of his speaking gaffes. With him, it was clear he often understood issues better than he was able to articulate. There was a fairly smart guy under the bumbling. Also, I thought it was ridiculous that anyone believed the Rather-gate memos. It was sad how far Bush haters would leave their senses in order to believe something that was so clearly a forgery.

In general, I'm a Canadian with no horse in the US political race.

And to me, it's crystal clear: Palin is a moron. Not like a Bush "moron" who made gaffes (but laughed them off when correcting himself later), or a sneaky, folksy type or something (who talks like the commoners as a political ploy). No - she's just plain old stupid, and mixed with a dangerous, aggressive confidence.

The silver lining is that she is, I hope and believe, unelectable.

TDS: Jon interviews T.Boone Pickens

sarah palin-wins "misinformer of the year"

dystopianfuturetoday says...

Sarah, like George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan before her, is a perfect corporate vessel. She has that right combination of vanity, self importance, folksy charisma and complete ignorance. If elected, we will focus all our outrage on her as she mindlessly carries out the will of big business. She will gladly take credit for all of the things she has been instructed to do, and at the end of her term, will be completely destroyed by the public and the media. Luckily for her anonymous patrons, there is a limitless supply of megalomaniacs in the USA. Rinse, Repeat...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism

Palin: “We've Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies"

dystopianfuturetoday says...

I don't think it matters who gets the nomination. Bush was just a folksy figurehead who followed orders. I have no reason to believe Palin or Romney or Huckabee or Rand Paul would be any different. At the end of 8 years of pushing the corporate agenda, they'll just throw her under the bus like they did to Bush and find another empty vessel to carry out their will.

Israeli Woman Finds Out BF Is Arabic, Sues Him For Rape

Lawdeedaw says...

>> ^qualm:
Lawdeedaw "...you’re dancing with a woman you’re buying conspicuous amounts of alcohol and she passes out… You do the little dirty and... Why is that rape? She took the alcohol willingly. You did not lie about anything… Certainly she should have reasonably known and accepted the consequences of her intentional actions; like a drunk driver."
This guy might as well be from Neptune.


You did not notice the sarcasm? You did not quote that I said it was indeed rape? You must be from Neptune but hey, keep lying and down voting me. You must have gotten your lying tongue from your mother? She really must have had loose lips huh? Of course I mean nothing perverted about that, no, not me. Of course it might not have been her, but we cannot trust you on that can we?

Be just like John Mccain and Sara Palin and countless other political people with your folksy "Gotta find the most flaming point and distort it till it is not true." You sir should be in Congress.

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