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NordlichReiter says...

Prior training and line of work. Cause me to be wary, but yes for normal people danger is uncommon. For some of us its not so uncommon.

A common misconception with danger is that If it doesn't happen to you ... it doesn't happen.

I wont bore you with statistics, but bad things happen to people every second of every day, and in this case lightning does strike twice.

I tend to come off bleakly in many of my comments.

In reply to this comment by tamman2000:
NordlichReiter, Just who in that video was trying to "survive at all costs, even the expense of other humans"?

You sounds like someone who leads a very fearful life. Do you have any idea how uncommon danger is now compared to any other time in human history?

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NordlichReiter says...

There was quiet a bit of priming to go along with that experiment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priming_(psychology)

but no actual conditioning. This also has to do with proximity of authority, and proximity of victim. I thought it was a very good experiment.

There are plenty of good books out there, in one book I saw a graph that showed murder was extremely below aggravated assault. Look for unbiased research, that has nothing to do with politics, thats why 2nd amendment research is all askew, and presidential poles are poisoned. Dont know what this has to do with milgrams... other than non biased numbers.

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Milgrams Experiment any one?

Actually the scariest thing about the Milgram experiment is the people weren't conditioned, at least not by the experimenters, they went in and obeyed the closest thing to authority.

I'd hazard a guess there's a genetic/evolutionary component to that, kind of like how people are programed to see faces in things, there's a component that compels us to obey authority.

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would it hurt to give this video a description?

I put some things down on this video, and linked to his wiki. Also put some other conspiracy like stuff down there. This videos subject has been going on for a long time, since the 1950s. Apparently the society of fraternal police and other organizations like that are on to this sort of thing. You can be sure that most police and agencies of the like do not favor secret societies, one reason is because they are just nosey. Another reason is because they want to know what the hell an organization is up to.

One thing I have noticed is that the FBI NSA CIA, dont have very good communication between each other. Its like the cubicle's versus the field agents. They don't "like" each other now that they all work for DHS, and they step on each others toes all the time.

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NordlichReiter says...

Hey, you know humans have that same reaction to adrenalin. If you look at American football player (think defensive linemen) they usually have huge pupils. This happens so that an animal can see movements better, even in a well lit area.

you may have heard a story of people talking about an intense experience, where they say every thing was slower and seems like a dream. That is the effect of adrenalin. Even if you are having fun the animal instinct is still there. With animals who do not foster the ability to rationalize, they are always on he edge of an adrenal gland outburst. Paranoid people seems to be like this cat too!:D

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Whoa, the way his pupils change size when he gets excited is almost freaky.

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NordlichReiter says...

Excessive use of a shock weapon can cause 2nd degree burns, muscle damage (Involuntary muscle convulsions that cause tearing and avulsion), as well as heart attack.

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR51/139/2004/en/dom-AMR511392004en.html

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
No such thing as stuck. The probes fire from a detachable cartridge on the front of the gun.
OH MY GOD. Now I got to the part where she complains about medical issues. I've been tazed by that SAME tazer model - no issues. I've done two years of electrical work, and have been shocked more times than I can count. Although I'm not a doctor, I'm calling bullshit on the medical thing.

And now BURN HOLES? Yeah, I don't fucking think so. More like lighter holes. Sounds to me like she's trying to milk it.

But NO. I am not defending the cop's actions.

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NordlichReiter says...

Yep took social phsych, can say that out of all the classes I took that one was the most interesting. A teacher that creates experiments in class rather than lecture all day is the best the best the best.

PS I wanted this to be a video comment, but alas I clicked the wrong tag. sorry.

In reply to this comment by DavidRaine:
>> ^Raigen:
I have watched this particular show in it's entirety, and Derren notes at the beginning that he uses no plants or actors during the course of his travels around the U.S.


>> ^NordlichReiter:
Do you believe every thing you hear or see on the Magic box.... did he just manipulate you over the TV into thinking that he is an honest non actor using master of suggestion?



An interesting point, though I would argue that if he is manipulating people into a particular belief over the airwaves then he could just as effectively use the same techniques in person. I think it comes down to whether or not you believe this type of manipulation is possible. In any event, the best defense is to take a class in psychology -- Become aware of the methodology and the mindset that leaves you open to suggestion, and you will suddenly find yourself immune to their effects.



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