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Father Arrested for Picking Up His Children on Foot

robbersdog49 says...

The form isn't to let them go rock climbing, it's for them to walk home. And as I understand it it's an eight year old and a 14 year old.

Here in the UK we use a different system. It's called common fucking sense.

My mother is a secondary school teacher and my sister in law is a primary and nursery teacher. They both happened to come round my house tonight and I mentioned this video and asked them about exactly what happens in schools in the UK today, as I'm a little out of touch (it's a good few years since I was at school).

They were both utterly confused by the video. Police in schools in the UK is a very rare thing, and they're only called in as a last resort. This situation would never have ended with police being called unless the guy was actually being a threat, which he clearly isn't. Any escalation would have been passed on to the senior members of staff who would deal with the situation.

As for the waivers to let the kids walk home in the UK it's simple. At secondary school level, so 11 and up, once they're off the school site they're your responsibility. You can pick them up or let them walk or catch the bus or whatever, but the school won't check that for you. Younger kids there's an agreement with the school about who will pick them up, but it's not as formal as the forms in the video. But there is a key word on file so if someone comes to pick up the kid that the staff don't know they need to give the key word to be able to get the kid.

But if a parent comes to take a kid out of school, even in the middle of a class, they can't stop them and they wouldn't call the police as a parent picking up their kid isn't a police matter.

Police would only ever be involved if there was violence or the real threat of violence. The thought that the police could enforce school rules is bizarre.

I don't know what else to say. I'm glad this isn't the case everywhere in America. There are a lot of differences between the UK and America which are nation wide though. I'm sorry I'm not an expert on your school system. From what you say though the police in schools thing is something that's not unusual in America, and I find that strange.

I find the whole video fucked up, and even more so the fact that some people in this thread seem to think it was right for the guy to be arrested. That it's OK for the school to keep the kids from the parents.

It's all just fucking weird.

bmacs27 said:

First of all, there is no "norm in America." It's a big fucking place, and schools are locally managed. I suppose waivers are relatively normal when children are expected to be in a risky situation without the supervision of their guardian. Suppose for example your kids were going to go on a rock climbing field trip. Would parents not be asked to consent to that? That's fucking weird. The weird part is that this waiver is clearly not related to the situation. These particular people at this particular school are clearly particularly stupid. That's why it's a video on the internet. It's not weird that they want 5 year olds' guardians to arrange for some sort of supervised transport home. I think it would be strange to just let a 5 year old walk miles down a highway to their home. The school would clearly have some liability if they allowed the child to do that without their guardian's permission.

As for the cop, well, again, that's a locale to locale sort of thing. He might not be a permanent fixture at the school (although some schools have rent-a-cops). He may have been called in because the guy caused a ruckus off camera. Do you not have cops go to places where there is an incident? So, for example, if someone went to a school and refused to leave until his demands were met, would you not call in a cop to mediate the situation?

Father Arrested for Picking Up His Children on Foot

bmacs27 says...

First of all, there is no "norm in America." It's a big fucking place, and schools are locally managed. I suppose waivers are relatively normal when children are expected to be in a risky situation without the supervision of their guardian. Suppose for example your kids were going to go on a rock climbing field trip. Would parents not be asked to consent to that? That's fucking weird. The weird part is that this waiver is clearly not related to the situation. These particular people at this particular school are clearly particularly stupid. That's why it's a video on the internet. It's not weird that they want 5 year olds' guardians to arrange for some sort of supervised transport home. I think it would be strange to just let a 5 year old walk miles down a highway to their home. The school would clearly have some liability if they allowed the child to do that without their guardian's permission.

As for the cop, well, again, that's a locale to locale sort of thing. He might not be a permanent fixture at the school (although some schools have rent-a-cops). He may have been called in because the guy caused a ruckus off camera. Do you not have cops go to places where there is an incident? So, for example, if someone went to a school and refused to leave until his demands were met, would you not call in a cop to mediate the situation?

robbersdog49 said:

I think there's a lot more here that I find stupid than just the police officer and the arrest. The form signing? That hasn't been questioned by anyone else but I've never seen that here in the UK. That there's even an officer there? Again, that's just nuts.

Everything about this situation is weird and alien to me as a brit, not just the arrest. From the reactions of others here it seems that all these things are normal, it's just a surprise that the guy got arrested. For me, everything is a surprise.

What is the norm in America? I'm hoping that your kids can leave school and go home. That's what happens here. Are police routinely at schools like this? Is the liability waiving form signing normal too?

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VoodooV says...

When I used to rock climb, I used to do a few competitions here and there. It wasn't the kids with the insane strength to weight ratios that bugged us. It was the parents. It's extremely similar to beauty contest parents where the parents seem to care more than the kids themselves and just hover over them and micro manage every thing they do.

If the kid really wants to do it, then more power to them, but competition parents? yeah they can stay home.

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Stu says...

Yea this is fake, but theres a swedish rock climbing champion who does pull ups with each finger in a ring to strengthen his fingers for climbing. People can do it just uhhh...not this guy.

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