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Democrats RAGE As Super Bowl For Black National Anthem.

newtboy says...

100% wrong, the NFL and NASCAR think it’s great, and so do more fans than they’ve ever enjoyed before. 😂

It’s pulling in more money by the fist full.

Only racist ignorant MAGgots think this is a problem and get triggered by a 100+ year old song about making it in America (that never mentions race btw). I can only imagine what you morons would do at a Neil Diamond concert if he dared sing “coming to America”! 😂

bobknight33 said:

Only the liberal elites believe this is a good thing.

Democrats RAGE As Super Bowl For Black National Anthem.

newtboy says...

😂 Highest ratings for any TV program ever in history. 😂
😂 Taylor Swift’s minor involvement has brought in an EXTRA $331 million to the NFL. 😂

Nobody was outraged that people didn’t stand for a song ONCE CALLED THE BLACK NATIONAL ANTHEM BY THE NAACP IN 1917 but never presented as a replacement national anthem. Nobody cared when they started singing it at football games and even NASCAR years ago in 2020 after George Floyd was brutally murdered in the street by violent police either (a murder MAGA racists deny happened).
More MAGA nonsensical lies, like every single word MAGgots say these days. Bob, are you so gullible you believe what you post? I find that hard to believe, and I know you are unbelievably gullible.

BOB, WHEN YOU NEED TO LIE TO MAKE YOUR POINT IT IS AN ADMISSION THAT YOUR POINT IS INVALID. You lie with every syllable you write.

The Super Bowl was the most watched and most profitable production even as MAGA boycotted in full force because “WOKE” and “PSY-OPS”.
Nobody cares about your dumb, ignorant insanity…nobody cares about your ineffectual cancel culture and absolute intolerance of inclusion….put your tin foil hats back on and go back to your street corner, nutjobs.

Brainwashed

moonsammy says...

Oops this turned into a semi rant. But I am legitimately open to discussion here, and am curious to get your thoughts on a few points Bob. That is, IF you're willing to actually think about them beyond the level of repeating talking points.

I find it interesting how divergent the two overall "sides" are in this country, in terms of where they focus. None of the issues brought up in this video are really on the radar of most progressives, beyond being aware some on the right are talking about them. And I'm guessing a lot of the concerns progressives discuss rarely come up in your chosen media landscape. A lot of the issues in the video are largely off of my radar, and I have to wonder how you feel they should be addressed - like, actual proposed solutions rather than just complaining about / worrying about them.

We only dedicate one day to remember our fallen soldiers

How many should there be? Arguably we have more than one already: there's Memorial Day and Veterans Day, and it seems that Sept 11th is often used for the purpose as well.

I'd argue we should spend more time acknowledging and understanding the principals behind WHY our soldiers died in the various conflicts which caused them to fall in the first place. Let's make sure our citizenry appreciates what we collectively rejected in the Revolutionary war. Why it was important that we kept the country together rather than allowing the south to split off in the mid-1800s. Why we chose to honor our diplomatic agreements and support our allies in WW1. Why we fought against the countries and governments we did in WW2. What our goals were in Korea and Vietnam, and what lessons we learned from those conflicts and from the Cold War in general. Commemorating and remembering those we've lost absolutely matters, but if we're ONLY doing that while forgetting why they fought OR ignoring what we learned then we're doing them an equal or greater disservice. Remember that America was built on the idea of forming "a more perfect union" - not a perfect one, a MORE perfect one - a work in progress. We're striving towards an ideal, not assuming we're already there. Learning from our past successes, failures, and our struggles around both outcomes is vital. If our self-analysis is no deeper than hero worship we'll never make real progress towards that theoretical perfect union.


The only mask that's gonna save us is duct tape on their mouths

Yeah, sound medical advice and evidence-based science is terrifying. Better to shut up those whose words we dislike, because we're reactionary authoritarian babymen. I truly do not understand being more afraid of reasonable safety measures than of a virus which has been shown to cause serious harm in the short and long terms. The only reason this "masks = liberal / maskless = conservative" crap came about is because politics has devolved to the level of team sports in the US, and one party has chosen "the opposite of whatever our political opponents say" as their entire governing philosophy. (And yes, ONE party - research and understand the GOP's 2020 platform if you want to argue the point.) This video even seems to reach a reasonable conclusion at the end, while coming up just short of that final logical leap to "maybe I should question what the public faces of MY side have been claiming in this Us vs Them madness." Seriously - keep going friend, you're almost there! George Washington was 100% right in wanting to avoid political parties being a force in the US, and it makes me immensely sad that his fears came true.


Big oil runs the world / the only wars to get fought are with the countries who have natural resources they want

Solid point here, no sarcasm. The US military has long been a tool of our profit-driven form of "free market" imperialism. A really great way to combat this, specifically with an eye to ending Big Oil's goddamn death grip on our foreign policy goals, would be an aggressive implementation of renewable energy projects. Remember the space race? America can be an absolute beast at clever engineering solutions when we dedicate ourselves to it. Fuck the petrostates, we have the available land and resources to absolutely kick ass in the realms of solar and wind power, and be leaders in the the post-hydrocarbon reality. We can certainly agree on that, right Bob? Left / Right nonsense fully aside, I think any reasonable American can agree on at least two points: let's stop sending heaps of cash to buy oil off of the Saudis (etc), and Fuck Cancer.


But if a white man acts too white he's white trash / he's a racist he's a bigot he's a monster

What the fuck is this horseshit? What does "acting too white" even fucking look like? Watching NASCAR on a sailboat while listening to polka? Typically when I see racism from white people it's in the form of denying that brown-hued people deal with any additional difficulties in life due to their skin tone, or denying that there have been structural obstacles for them through history, or lamenting that their white children are being burdened with a broader lens on culture or with (gasp! shock!) an accurate accounting of actual US history, including the ugly bits that we shouldn't be proud of (but MUST learn from). I'm progressive / lefty as fuck and there is no aspect of "white culture" or "acting white" which upsets me in the slightest. UNLESS one counts "denying racism exists / has ever existed" as a fundamental value of being white. Which... why would anyone want to claim that nonsense? If you want to listen to classic country music in a rusty pickup truck while driving to an evangelical church, then discuss hockey over Buds after 18 holes with the rest of your tractor pull team, then absolutely go nuts my fellow caucusoid! Just recognize and understand that your life experiences may not be the same as those of others. Further, if we care about trying to avoid unnecessary, avoidable unfairness in life (recognizing that life will never truly be fair, for anyone), then it might be reasonable for some governmental / legal / structural recognition in furtherance of that notion. There is absolutely room for legitimate policy disagreement here without being accused of racism. It's denial of others' reality which tends to garner the label of racist (sexist etc) - steer clear of denying the lived experiences of other people, allow for the possibility they may have encountered difficulties you haven't / won't, and we've room for further discussion.

Edit / final point: I voted the video back up to 0 from the -1 where I found it. Because while I disagree with a lot of the positions taken by the performer, they may have reached them through no fault of their own and with no true malice. Misinformation / disinformation is a devious shit of a motherfucker, and the rot it causes can run deep. It is painful to abandon deeply-held beliefs, on a fundamental level. If nothing else, the video gives us room to discuss some specific viewpoints held by people who think of themselves as good, but which can lead to harm.

Why the Olympic monobob event is only for women

spawnflagger says...

nothing new... the Russians have been sending burly "women" to the Olympics for decades.

I think they could take this monobob 1 step further, make it purely a skill sport by adding weight such that the combined pilot+sled weight is the same for everyone, and use a railgun-style launcher (tech existed for rollercoasters for years) that sends everyone at the same speed. That could even be a mixed-sex sport, like Nascar.

bobknight33 said:

Sadly some transgender will enter and win hands down.

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Covid Relief Pork

cloudballoon says...

There's always pork in 'em Bills, the difference is where these pork moneys goes to. Corporate largesse that Republicans love (like billions in "motorsports entertainment (read: NASCAR)", and tax breaks for the mega-rich & kickback to lobbyists or civil/social projects, etc. etc. that Democrats love to do, and produce a lot of wasted money too. Practically all government in every country does it.

The Trump Plan

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BSR says...

Don't remember Robotech.

I remember being a Vulcan. I wanted to be Spock. I started to stand with my hands behind my back. Tried not smile. Learned to lift one eyebrow.

Kids. It was a great time in spite having to learn things the hard way.

I got into racing. I felt the need to follow a sport so I could be a part of something, I guess. I liked football but didn't care to play it. Baseball was too boring for me to follow for any length of time. I decided I would follow NASCAR . That was the ticket for me. Been to Daytona several times out of convenience of location. Been to Texas Motor Speedway twice, Atlanta, Talladega twice, Las Vegas, Dover and Charlotte. Part of why I have hearing loss. I love to drive/travel. I haven't owned a car since '95 but have always managed to get around somehow.

EDIT: in case you were wondering, no, I don't have a southern accent. Not that there is "anything wrong" with that.

newtboy said:

I've always had a thing for Japanese culture. They seemed as close to Vulcans as humans were likely to get (when I was little at least), and I respect that immensely. That, and I wanted to be a race car driver when I grew up....still do.

How about Robotech? I watched it daily when it aired.

Liberal Redneck - Muslim Ban

spawnflagger says...

Just to add to Liberal Redneck's point of Arabs and American Rednecks having things in common, WWE was quite popular in the Middle East, as is car racing (F1 not Nascar though). Also camping and 4x4'ing.

How High Can You Hear? [test]

Jeff Gordon Police Chase

What It Took To Be A Black NASCAR Driver In The Jim Crow Era

What It Took To Be A Black NASCAR Driver In The Jim Crow Era

vil says...

One of 3 black Nascar drivers in 60 years of racing.

The unease with which they accomodated JP Montoya for a couple of years was fun to watch.

Frank Kelly - Fast, Sideways and Mental



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