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When Video Game Companies Pay To Get Their Game Reviewed.

Jinx says...

I'm not allowed to accept gifts etc at work... and I don't even work in anything close to journalism

Honestly tho, you got on a site, or youtubes or w/e for game reviews...and you don't pay a dime, hell, you might not even see any ads... hmm. Wonder how they make a living!

I'd love to know how much people are actually influenced by reviews. I tend to stick to developers who have delivered in the past. For everything else there is always a lets play or twitch stream shortly after release. Most of the time I read reviews after I've bought a game just to see what other people think about it...

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how social justice warriors are problematic

ChaosEngine says...

Fuck gamergate. They are not, never have and never will be about "ethics in journalism".

They are straight-up misogynistic assholes that make me ashamed to be associated with an art medium/hobby that I've been involved with for over 30 years.

Let's just put this in context. They claim they are against the collusion of game companies and journalists.

First up, the specific instance they targeted was not a conflict of interest. There are absolutely, undoubtedly, HUGE collusions between game reviewers and games, but gg ignored all those because they were for AAA mainstream games that gg likes and instead accused journalists of giving higher review scores to indie games.

Here's a fucking hint: go read some movie reviews, and tell me if you see movie critics favouring indie movies over blockbusters. Of course they do. People who are seriously into something almost always prefer a niche product. See also: craft beer vs budweiser, restaurants vs McDonalds, etc. I could go on.

But here's the cheery on the big cake of poo.

When a games journalist dared to express an opinion against an otherwise well-reviewed game*, what did gamergate do? Applaud their journalistic integrity in offering a dissenting opinion?

Nope: they started a fucking campaign to get the game company to blacklist the reviewer.

The hypocrisy is simply staggering.

And I haven't even mentioned the doxing, the rape threats and so on.

Once again, fuck gamergate. Frankly, they're on a par with the KKK as far as I'm concerned.


* polygon gave Bayonetta 2 a score of 7.5/10 because the reviewer felt it was juvenille and over sexualised. gg started a campaign to get nintendo to block polygon. Nintendo, to their credit, ignored the little fucktards.

Colbert interviews Anita Sarkeesian

Yogi says...

No there are not valid points on Both sides. There is a valid point on one side that there is sexism in media. There is no valid points on the other side, their only very stupid point was that games media should be unlike any other media in the world and be completely unbiased.

People shouldn't believe that media should be unbiased, it's bullshit. All media has human beings, it will all be biased. The point is whether or not how they report on things is dishonest or not. If you can't read and you just look at the stupid fucking numbers at the bottom of a game review, then you deserve to buy a game that sucks.

EMPIRE said:

The problem with Anita Sarkeesian is that she's essentially, a hack. The whole gamergate incident has been one ugly affair, and absolutely there are valid points on both sides. But Sarkeesian is still someone who knows nothing about games, doesn't like games in the slightest, but tries to pass off as a gamer. And there are videos of just 4 years ago, of her saying to an audience she doesn't like videogames, she's not a fan. This person who doesn't even like or play videogames comes in, and starts pointing fingers around saying that this and that are wrong and that this and that must be changed. That, I think, more than anything is what pisses gamers off.

You wanna know what I think is the problem? What REALLY made this happen? Not the Zoe Quinn scandal. That was just the event that ignited the powder keg. A terrible event obviously. Her private life is nobody's business (unless it was absolutely true she got reviews from sleeping around with game journalists, which it wasn't).

The actual powder keg, was the CONSTANT barrage of pseudo-feminist and patronizing articles on sites like Kotaku. Day in and day out. A site for gamers who was, essentially, constantly offending their target audience.

Colbert interviews Anita Sarkeesian

SDGundamX says...

@Enzoblue

Thunderf00t is probably the least level-headed response you will find. His video is terrible for a lot of reasons, mostly because he does all the same things Anita Sarkessian is accused of doing (for example, cherry-picking) to an exponential degree, but I recommend you watch it anyway and draw your own conclusions.

As much as some Gamergate supporters would like the movement to be about ethics in gaming journalism, it has its roots in a witch-hunt started by claims from a jilted ex-boyfriend that his girlfriend (Zoe Quinn) slept with reporters to get good reviews--claims that were later shown to be completely untrue but not before the Gamergate movement had found a cause to rally around. From the very start, the movement had trouble separating actual journalistic ethical problems (i.e. gifts from game publishers to game reviewers... see pretty much any tweet or video by TotalBiscuit about Gamergate for a reasoned overview of the problems) from anti-feminist screeds against Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, and later Brianna Wu. And it only got worse over time.

To understand why people might be opposed to Sarkeesian's critiques, you should probably read: this article. Just to summarize the article's main thesis: there is a group of gamers out there who refuse to see a problem with the status quo and make the claim that anyone trying to point out a problem is demanding special privileges. This is not to say that Sarkeesian's critiques aren't without flaws. It is rather to explain how so many people got enraged by her analysis that they felt the need to personally attack her.

So, to put it in a nutshell, there ARE some problems with gaming journalism but they are akin to the same kinds of problems entertainment journalism has in general (Colbert's point). But there are also some serious problems with gaming culture that were brought under the magnifying glass by the whole Gamergate phenomenon.

Frankly, as a "hardcore gamer" (30+ years of gaming experience including games across dozens of consoles and the PC), watching the "debate" on the topic has been embarrassing to say the least. Gaming was finally overcoming the stigma and stereotypes that it had been shackled with before this thing blew up and made us look like the bunch of socially inept man-babies the rest of society assumed we were.

I think not only is it going to take years for our social image to recover, it is going to take years to overcome the toxicity that has pervaded the debate. People on both sides are seriously butt-hurt about how everything went down and the back and forth has been more on the emotional side than the intellectual, leading to lots of flame wars and very little critical reflection.

charliem said:

Check out some of thunderf00ts videos on sarkeesian (youtube thunderf00t sarkesian).

Level headed response and breaks down this social crusader for what she really is.

Someone thats making noises to get money for her videos / books whatever. She sounds reasonable, until you hear the other side....and then you cant fathom how you could have ever believed her bullshit to begin with.

Goat Simulator gameplay

spawnflagger says...

I just bought this game -$10 pre-order unlocks it on Steam. It is every bit as promising as this video makes it, and more.
(I thought the Lazy Game Reviews of it was a funnier video though)
*related=http://videosift.com/video/LGR-plays-Goat-Simulator

Sarzys review of "The Stanley Parable"

lucky760 says...

Huzzah! Well done, @Sarzy. I love that it's short, sweet and to the point instead of the long-winded dissertation many video game reviews tend to be nowadays.

I don't have time to play video games anymore, but you really convinced me that I should try this some day.

Looking forward to more.

Sarzys review of "The Stanley Parable"

Game Dev Calls Copyright Claim on Negative Reviews of Game

RFlagg says...

Some people can't take criticism. Especially bad when you got proof they gave permission before you made the video, and aren't doing things equally.

Some of the channels I watch are critical of Young Earth Creationists, proving how the YEC people are providing false witness by lying about the actual facts in an effort to confuse their audience into believing the Earth is only 6,000 year old, and they get take down notices all the time. In those cases it is fair use at play since the channels they are being shown on aren't getting revenue, and are educational. In TB's case, he had permission from the company, signed by the very guy who later complained.

As TB notes, this isn't really about him and his video though, but others who do the same thing who don't have a powerful network behind them to recover or fight, and has more to do with YouTube's default action, without giving proper recourse for the content maker to address it fairly, and of course the DMCA itself which is probably the core of the problem. Hopefully, if any of the videos he pointed out as still being up are taken down after he pointed them out, his Network will help those people.

The subject of Let's Play videos and their legality is a difficult one. TB's WTF videos are basically Let's Play with an initial impression. Even without a blanket and specific permission granted, they should be legal, as it is critique, not just a pure Let's Play without commentary of the entire game. I can see the argument against showing a large portion or entire game and monetizing it without permission, but a shorter Let's Play or critique should be fair, especially critique.

It should be noted that the Developers have since pulled their complaint to YouTube after the negative publicity. Gee... take down notice to one of the biggest YouTube game reviewers out there, somebody who's professional name and reputation is "cynical" and you don't think there would be fallout?

Zero Punctuation: The Last of Us

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Fletch says...

If you can't watch it, let me fill you in... pretentious British game reviewer, and Australian resident, waxes snarky about said games in Powerpointesque internet videos that, for some reason, many viewers find entertaining, even though they all contain the same recycled shtick over and over. Apparently, fans are so enraptured by his worldly accent and monotone, comma-bereft delivery that they don't care that they can't even tell whether he liked the game or not.



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