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Francis Scott Keys Bridge In Baltimore Collapses

newtboy says...

Of course…

Republicans are already politicizing this tragedy in multiple ways…
1) insinuating because it’s a foreign owned ship it might be intentional/terrorism
2) insinuating that because it’s a foreign owned ship it has something to do with “open borders”
3) tying the expected economic impact to automatically creating more inflation, quickly blamed on Biden and
4) blaming the collapse on poor infrastructure which they blame on Democrats despite Republicans having voted against the first meaningful infrastructure bill in decades, a Democrat written and sponsored bill they all take credit for now.

Meanwhile the White House has sent federal assistance, sent the Secretary of transportation, and already pledged the army core of engineers to clear debris and rebuild as fast as possible using federal money to be recouped from the shipping company later (not wait years to rebuild while we litigate their responsibility).

Quite a stark contrast in leadership styles on display.

Another viewpoint of the accident…

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

More economic news proving Bidenomics has been great for America. GDP beat all expectations. Unemployment remains at record lows. Inflation is still below 3.5%. Wage growth is above 4.6% (5.1% last year). Stock markets are hitting record high after record highs. The guaranteed recession and likely long term depression forecast for 2022-2023 was avoided completely.
I’m still waiting to hear something that’s not great, and I don’t mean complaining about 2021’s high inflation.

The economy doing great is terrible for Trump, that’s why he’s repeatedly said he hopes our economy crashes and we slide into a depression so maybe he could finally get more votes than his opponent (something that has never once happened in his lifetime).

bobknight33 said:

What idiotic puke are you spewing.

You get your information from the same rag that say Bidenomics is doing great.

Bidenomics is not great.

Wash, rinse, repeat (according to some)

newtboy says...

Republicans refuse to see Hunter Biden who is sitting in congress waiting to testify…



As to the economy and American’s pocketbooks….Unemployment at record lows and below 4% for the longest period in my lifetime, gdp at record high in 2022, inflation down, gas prices below $3, groceries cheaper, wages rising faster.
Under Trump we got record high unemployment for the longest stretch in memory, the first negative gdp I’ve ever heard of in America, inflation exploding, cheap gas only because no one was working so demand went to zero, empty shelves and exploding prices, stagnant wages, and over 2 million people permanently removed from the job market (1 million dead, well over 1 million permanently disabled)…Trumps own cdc said his disastrous policies caused over 40% of those cases that many other countries avoided with sane covid policies.

Just yesterday Trump publicly hoped and wished for a major economic crash this year because it would help him in the election, not caring one whit that it would hurt America badly. Says it all, and goes right through that empty space between your ears without pausing.

It’s no surprise you have it 100% backwards…you are basing your position on what Trump told you not actual economic statistics, what he says are all lies.

bobknight33 said:

Joe Biden and the Democrats are a disaster for the American pocketbook.

How Bad is The Cost of Living Squeeze In the US?

newtboy says...

I’m still waiting for you to explain how 75% inflation over 22 years becomes 150% increased prices under Biden as you claimed. Please, I need your expertise in mathematics to make the world make sense. 😂


To my dumber than a bag of hammers-
😂 🤦‍♂️ 😂
So that’s a “yes”, you do think the economy is worse now than in 2020 solely because inflation is doubled and you don’t understand earnings/purchase power . 🤦‍♂️
I grant you, inflation is still elevated, but down near 2/3 and well below what other countries are experiencing, so is getting better not worse. Hyperactive economies can tend to have inflation issues, and the Biden economy exploded like it was made of lithium deuteride.

Yes booby, prices have gone up on average, they always do…and on average everyone makes more too….much more. If prices go up 3% and wages go up 6% you have 3% more buying power, A GAIN…that’s pretty basic math for it to go so far over your head. In 2020 prices went up near 1.5% (for items still on shelves) but wages went DOWN near 6% (for those who were still employed) for a >7% LOSS in buying power. See how Bidenomics is better yet?

Probably not…ask a 3rd grader…is being able to buy 3% more yearly better than only being able to buy >7% less than last year?

Earning power is rising fast, double inflation, so are GDP and employment rates unlike under Trump when not only was there still inflation (granted much less thanks to the floundering MAGA economy) but wages actually went down significantly GDP went NEGATIVE and up to 20 million jobs evaporated thanks to mismanagement (NZ didn’t have that problem).

When inflation is barely above 3% and wages are rising at near 6%, yes, things cost more, and average people can also BUY MORE you fucking idiot.
I know, that’s keeping two things in your head at once, so impossible for you to comprehend, but trust me, that’s reality. You should try it some time.
You think you have something because inflation went up, largely thanks to Trumps horrific last year of hyper spending and the economic crash his mismanagement caused but also due to Biden’s economic recovery outpacing the most optimistic predictions…but you are too dumb to see the other half of the earning equation…wages. Since earnings are rising at double inflation, people can buy more.
Again, in 2020 wages went down almost 6% with 1.5% inflation (during a massive negative gdp) so earning power went down by almost 7.5%…today inflation is 3.24 but wages are rising at nearly 6%, giving a RISE in earning power of 2.75%. That is a >10% difference, going from a 7.5% loss of buying power in 2020 to a 2.75% rise this year…and no recession. That’s called winning.
Inflation is only one part of the equation, buddy, and is absolutely meaningless without the other parts.

Yes, I repeated myself…I hoped by saying it over and over some might get through.

Interest rates…😂😂😂 true, Biden didn’t lower rates to zero and still have a stalled economy, he had to raise them to combat inflation…it worked, and hasn’t stalled the boom yet. You claim to be rich…high interest rates shouldn’t mean a thing to you…or do you really carry massive debt and aren’t really rich at all? 😂

As a side note, the stock market is also booming, paying great for those who are invested. Similar to wage growth since many (like me) live off investment earnings.

Gas prices have dropped sharply, today below $3 in 1/3 of the country and $.22 lower than a year ago on average. That’s costing LESS! Try again.

Many staple food prices are lower too. National average turkey prices were cheaper than last year, so are eggs. Try again.

According to Edmonds, “ The good news is that, in general, prices have been on the decline since late 2022. In May 2022, the average selling price of a vehicle was about $721 over MSRP. Compare that to July 2023, when the average selling price was about $714 below MSRP.”. Try again.

American's purchase power is rising, under Trump it plummeted like never before. I know, you just don’t understand. It’s ok boob. Adults understand.

I bought a bag of hammers for $10 at a yard sale…it was incredibly smart of me. I got about 10 hammers including 3 small sledge hammers and 2 metal framing hammers. My bag of hammers purchase was quite smart. 😂

Boob, get a brain. You might ask the scarecrow how he got his, because you really need help. I’ve never met a person as dumb and delusional as yourself, and I’ve known some real idiots.

Try this simple example.
Last week a soda cost you $1, and you made $12 an hour ($1 every 5 minutes). This week a soda costs $1.20 but your pay went to $15 ($1 every 4 minutes). Yes, the soda costs more this week…INFLATION!…are you better off now or were you better off with cheaper soda last week? Show your work. (I’m pretty certain that second grade math is just too hard and I won’t see a reply).

THIS IS WHY YOU FAIL EVERY TIME BOOB. BECAUSE YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU RANT ABOUT AT ALL.
GO TO SCHOOL AND LEARN THE BASICS.

bobknight33 said:

" it’s better by every single measure used to measure any economy."

Gas , food , cars, interest rates all cost more.

-Your dumber than a bag of hammers.

How Bad is The Cost of Living Squeeze In the US?

newtboy says...

Your mantra.
“I can’t deny that Bidenomics has improved every single measure of our economy significantly after the record setting abject disaster of Trumps last year in office and the lingering effects of its apocalyptic mismanagement, but it will get worse someday, so Bidenomics is a failure.”
You can’t point to a single metric of economics that hasn’t significantly improved under Biden. NOT ONE. “It will get worse.” is not related to reality, it’s just your own wishful thinking, hoping for America to fail.

Such idiotic nonsense. Nothing has been worse for the economy than Republican leadership. Every recession in recent history was under Republicans because of republican policies, every economic recovery was under Democrats thanks to democratic policies. The vast majority of inflation was due to Trump spending like a drunken sailor with mommy’s credit card and increasing the debt by 8 trillion and deficit by trillions or tens of trillions more before his policies expire. Biden’s policies, Bidenomics, averted a recession/depression you (and many economists) insisted was coming by 2022 and reversed inflation faster than the most optimistic economist predicted.

Bidenomics has saved American pocketbooks from the results of 4 years of federal financial malfeasance.
Trump ended his term with a negative gdp, huge exploded deficit, rapidly growing debt, worst unemployment in living memory, a historically easy to defraud never repay ppp loan program every Republican congressperson scammed, tens of millions of disabled taxpayers and a million dead taxpayers. Trumpenomics had us on the fast road to unavoidable recession/depression in Jan 2021….Bidenomics avoided it and created a boom. 🤦‍♂️

Republican bickering has already led to our national credit rating being downgraded once, costing the nation billions in increased loan interest alone with nothing gained besides the degradation of our congress and the national union. You would happily have that continue until it bankrupted the nation irreparably then blame Biden.

bobknight33 said:

@newtboy

Better to have Republicans bicker and get nothing done than to have Bidnomics destroy American pocketbooks.

It will get worse.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

I’m not the Lord….but thanks for saying I am, even if unintentionally.

So, it’s more projection then….and more evidence english is your second language at best, and you failed the class, and that you’ve never passed remedial math.

Disgraced traitor and failed dictator tumescent Trump has had the worst week in court history, after testifying that “sure, he did the crimes” he’s set to lose hundreds of millions and all his businesses before going to prison at best, and is set to be in court for treason all through the election, and you just CAN’T admit it. Fortunately the court system doesn’t care if you believe, and neither do independents.

If only there was some undeniable metric to tell how the economy is doing, like GDP (up beyond belief from NEGATIVE 2.3% for Trump to 4.9%), or unemployment (holding at record lows of 3.8 down from 9% Trump left), or wage growth (at 5.3% well above inflation, up from 2.6% under Trump thanks solely to low wage earners losing far more jobs or it would be zero), or inflation numbers (down enough at 3.7% that the fed stopped raising rates) we could look at to see the trends.
So sad there’s nothing we can look at to see and so I guess we’ll just have to take your word for it. 🤦‍♂️

Can you tell us what measurements you use to determine that Bidenomics have failed, or by what measure Trumpenomics were successful? All I know for sure is they are not the normal ones used to evaluate economics because they all point toward Trump’s policies being disastrous and Biden’s being amazing, well above all predictions consistently, so I’m curious what they are.

Ugh…more of the failed lawyer posting from mommy’s basement. How many times will you let this guy make you look stupid before you stop posting his rantings?

The same polling he references said we were getting another red tsunami yesterday…but we didn’t, did we? Republicans lost almost every single contest, even many that seemed to be a lock. Don’t you find it odd that you think Trumpism is so much more popular but every Trump backed candidate consistently loses? Keep clinging to false hope, it’s done so well for you in the last 5 elections. 😂

Now, aren’t you going to explain the mathematics of inflation to me and explain why 75% inflation translates to 140% price increases? I want to learn, and I know you can teach me since you have a firm grasp of math.

bobknight33 said:

Lord you just love clinging to nothingness.

Here Just look at you failed POTUS and ponder that. That whats matter,

Biden is a failed POTUS.
Clear as day.
Bidenomics has failed. You just can admit it.

Government spending is out of control - both sides to blame

newtboy says...

“Both sides to blame”…who last balanced the budget, bob? Clinton.

And who took a surplus that had been lowering the debt and turned it into a doubling of the national debt and recession/depression in 8 short years?
Who just added $8 trillion to the debt in 4?
All Republicans.
The one thing the last 3 Republican presidents have is starting with an economic boom and causing a recession.
It’s just utter nonsense that republicans are better at the economy, they destroy it every single time they get control, then Democrats rebuild.

Bidenomics

newtboy says...

High rent and low wages are two Republican promises they delivered on.

The groceries he claims are $100 worth would cost under $50 in California, where cost of living is on the high end if not the highest…unless there’s a $50 gift card hidden inside the greeting card or those drinks cost over $10 each. What nonsense.

I give Bob verified facts and statistics often with citations, he replies with randos whine/lying on the interweb that eggs cost $20. 😂

Nice try convincing people the economy is failing. That’s the new Republican lie. You need it to be true or your world view falls apart…but it’s simply nonsense bob. “Hide and watch, it’s going to all fall apart tomorrow” is no rebuttal for actual economic numbers and trends. 😂

newtboy (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

3.8% unemployment will go up.
Inflation is not at 2.1% Going down yes but not at target.
FED still need to destroy jobs.
670K Full-Time Jobs Lost In 2 Months Vs 1 Million Part-Time Surge; Worst Unadjusted August Payrolls Since Great Recession.

Massive Government spending created this.

Keep fooling yourself . Biden economics are hurting Americans and it will get worse.

newtboy said:

Now inflation is down to 2.1% over the last 3 months.
Yes, unemployment rose to a still rock bottom 3.8% despite 180000 jobs being created as people entered the workforce. That’s very healthy.
Wages are still rising, now at double the inflation rate, mostly at the bottom instead of the 1% that got all gains under Trump.

I guess I need to give it ANOTHER month, right? It’s all going to fall apart…you just know it! Trump said Biden has dementia, it’s not possible he’s far more competent than his predecessor. 😂

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newtboy says...

Every whining word you wrote is a lie, and easily proven wrong.
Why do you spout these obvious, easily debunked lies?

You can’t even carry $200 worth of grocery store steak in your hands. What ridiculous lie are you spreading now? I bet you can’t carry more than 2 gallons of milk at once, so under $12 worth of groceries. In fact, I bet you can’t carry 2 half gallons at once, so $6 is your hands full. 😂

Most wage gains are going to the bottom 60%, not the top 10% like all gains under the rapist Trump. Wages rose at .4% in July, well above predictions.

The record setting jobs numbers have been revised UP almost every month this year. May was almost double the estimate. July was revised down ever so slightly, but is still amazingly good and now becoming sustainable for the long term…adding 340000 jobs a month like we did in May was not. Adding 190000 in July is great, an amazing number of jobs created, and sustainable.

Trump the rapist is the only modern president to ever LOSE jobs while president, he lost around 3 MILLION JOBS overall (and 1 million Americans) and had a record high unemployment of 14.7%…Dark Brandon has recovered every single job Trump the rapist lost and added well over 10 MILLION new jobs on top of that, leading to record low unemployment numbers staying around 3.5%. 😂

Employers are looking for more workers desperately, not cutting hours or jobs you absolute liar. (Elon is the exception because he’s trying to destroy his companies out of spite). Some are canceling projects because they can’t find workers.
Employers are creating more jobs than anyone ever expected consistently, not cutting jobs like they did under Trump. 😂

Inflation is down to 3% and falling.

Unemployment is at 3.5%.

GDP is expected to hit 4% this quarter.

Economists have said we are no longer at risk for recession.

Trump’s last numbers were near 7% yearly unemployment (down from 15% in April), 8% inflation, -2.7% gdp, and a predicted recession and likely depression expected in the near future.
You are so delusional you want to return to these disastrous numbers and whine incessantly about Biden’s economic recovery that’s record setting in its gains on all fronts despite the near depression, negative gdp, insane unemployment, insanely high inflation, and out of control pandemic he inherited.

Every stupid word of your post is a lie. Every prediction you made has failed miserably. Not surprising, you are a constant liar that hates facts and truth because they make you look incredibly stupid, racist, fascist, and ignorant. I think your brain is so damaged you think it’s 2020 again…the worst year in living memory on all fronts, and exactly what 3 years of Trumpism gets you. 🤦‍♂️

Keep the tantrums and MAGA tears coming..so yummy you guys…mmmmmm, yes!

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

You are correct. 😂
The rapist Trump has used over $55 million of campaign donations for his own legal woes, he pays his family $60k per minute from campaign donations to scream on stage, he claims he pays hundreds of thousands of dollars from political donations for Melania’s hair, he took donations from Russians and Ukrainian separatists, his daughter took tens of millions from the Chinese to curry favor during trade talks, his son took two BILLION from Saudis for selling state secrets and looking the other way as they murdered American journalists, he stole from his charity for disabled veterans and is barred from participating in any charity now, he ran a fraudulent school, he paid millions for redlining at his properties, Jr met Russians to trade favors for dirt on Clinton. AND DON’T FORGET HE’S OFFICIALLY A RAPIST! The rapist Trump’s family are a megalomaniac crime family with a delusional cult funding them.

They are unlike Biden or BLM that both produce results for the small donations they receive from American citizens. I know of no accusation of Joe using campaign funds for personal or family expenditures….Trump does it as a matter of course.

Not just excuses, grift, baseless accusations, and moaning for billions in foreign bribes, but results like major economic recovery/boom and actual meaningful police reform for an alleged few million or less in American dollars (or in Joe’s case, for a small salary).

The Trumps sold America to China and the Saudis.

This is verifiable fact.

You only have baseless just stupid accusations against Biden, like the brainless accusation that Hunter took billions from China….where is it then? Where’s the paper trail? The evidence? Even the “whistleblowers” had absolutely nothing to say that helped impugn either Biden. Not a single thing found in years besides tax evasion, Trump’s favorite crime besides maybe rape…no banking trail, no bribery, no espionage, no election fraud, no sedition, no rights violations, nor a single rape between them either! 😂

Such delusion…. you know all this, but still pretend the rapist Trump isn’t a criminal and Dark Brandon is. 😂 😂 😂 How’s that working out?

bobknight33 said:

BLM leaders are more like the Biden family, not Trumps.

Biden sold out America

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

3.6%
Remember Trump’s 14.7% unemployment rate!? Remember a negative 2.3% gdp for the year!?! -😂
Always moving the goal post when your predictions fail. That’s not what you said.
You said the revised numbers from May would get worse, they got better.
You said June numbers would be worse, they were better, well above predictions, then revised up.
You said the fed raising interest rates would blow up unemployment and crash gdp, the exact opposite has happened consistently.
You said give it time, July will be worse, July GDP, unemployment, and inflation numbers beat expectations again, by a shitload.
Feds already raised rates, inflation dropped, gdp blew up, unemployment stayed historically low, stock markets boomed…your predictions of a crash evaporated. Try again.

At this rate, we would need to wait enough time for Trump or another failure and moron to have controlled the economy for 6 months before we can expect a downturn…ain’t ever gonna happen, only cultists want a repeatedly convicted treasonous supervillain that created the worst modern economic disaster for president and your people are leaving the cult, not joining up... Sucker.

Stick with Jim/Don until he passes out the flavoraid…I recommend Orange, it covers the cyanide taste. You think I’m joking, but the day will come when he says it’s time for you to die for him…actually that was in 2020 during covid and on Jan 6, but it will come again….time my friend, just give it time,
In the mean time, the economy is soaring contrary to 100% of your predictions for months/years. 😂

bobknight33 said:

Time my friend. Give it time,
Unemployment up at 3.7%
Still excess $ in the system. FED raised rates again. Another straw in the camels back

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Soooo…
Freedom Caucus leader Matt Gaetz just went on air and said “I feel like most conservatives support “limit save grow” (the >22% across the board slash and burn economy destroying cuts) and they don’t feel like we should negotiate with our hostage.”
There you have it…those controlling this manufactured economic crisis know this is terroristic hostage taking for ransom, they think of it in those terms themselves.
Remember, the American economy is their hostage, and they plan to cut out its kidney and send it through the mail on Wednesday.

Fiscally responsible? Are they saving money? Are they putting America ahead of themselves? Are their stated plans even possible? Is this in any way a rational, reasonable, or sane way to govern? Would MAGgots refrain from murder if circumstances were reversed and Dems were holding Trump’s economy hostage?
The answer to all is a resounding “no”.

Debt Ceiling Talks Cancelled

newtboy says...

Incorrect, sir.

First, I think it’s a typo, because Republicans ARE the party of defrauding and that’s incontrovertible and undeniable by anyone but bob.

There’s enough Republicans in office that put their politics above country that default is a real possibility. Fortunately they now PLAN to resume talks (but only if no Republican gets upset and balks).
Democrats aren’t playing any game. They should be absolutely refusing to even discuss negotiating over paying our bills and refusing to bankrupt America, but instead are accepting the blackmail scheme and are negotiating away rights and programs to the terrorists holding a gun to the economy’s head.
This only guarantees they will do the exact same thing every year. Any compromise at all is capitulation to economic terrorism, which invites more.

We have NEVER been anywhere near this position. We have “negotiations” over the debt ceiling, but have never gone more than a few days until the responsible limit for delay. We are now at the point where, if we don’t get a plan both sides agree on, get it out of committee, get a full house vote scheduled and taken, move it to the senate for debate, get it approved (hopefully with no changes at all or it returns to the house), get a senate vote scheduled and taken and passed, send it to Biden for a signature, then implement it….all by next Wednesday or we default. (Edit: now consider part of the Republican demands are their as yet unwritten NEW spending cut bill be passed BEFORE that entire process even starts).
We have never been within four months of this point, and there’s been some amazing money juggling and many projects “postponed” (cancelled) that had won hard fought congressional approval and funding just to stretch our ability to pay debts this far.

We hit our borrowing/debt limit in January, what’s normally considered the “due date”. In the past, negotiations have never come closer than in 2011 when it got to only two days until the debt limit was reached, and it cost well over a billion dollars in higher interest rates alone. We are now over 4 months past that point today, with absolutely no plan on how to move forwards.

This is not normal, has not happened every 4 years, and in fact has never once happened in our history. I expect our national “credit rating” to slip even if we pull off a Hail Mary, which is looking less likely daily. We’ve already lost hundreds of millions in lost international investments because who wants to invest in a country trying to bankrupt itself?

oblio70 said:

Blame:
Republicans- they will NOT defraud as they say they will ($-interests).
Democrats- playing same Republican game; won’t call them out.
Media- supporting lie of threat of defraud.
Biden- words worthless; Republican in deeds .
The people- blind acceptance

We have been here every 4 years since the 90’s, and its always the same story. So old!



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