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Francis Scott Keys Bridge In Baltimore Collapses

cloudballoon says...

I read the news at 4am last night after pulling some OT. Shit I had a hard time going to sleep doom scrolling for another 30 mins before I put down the phone.

From this video, seems like the ship's power was going in/out intermittently before the crash with heavy smoke billowing out, so that might be engine/fire trouble.

Why that is (poor maintenance record, sabotage or what not) is to be determined. It's just a very inopportune, and deadly, time to have that kind of power outage.

Damn stupid & cruel to politicize this accident.

newtboy said:

Of course…

Republicans are already politicizing this tragedy in multiple ways…
1) insinuating because it’s a foreign owned ship it might be intentional/terrorism
2) insinuating that because it’s a foreign owned ship it has something to do with “open borders”
3) tying the expected economic impact to automatically creating more inflation, quickly blamed on Biden and
4) blaming the collapse on poor infrastructure which they blame on Democrats despite Republicans having voted against the first meaningful infrastructure bill in decades, a Democrat written and sponsored bill they all take credit for now.

Meanwhile the White House has sent federal assistance, sent the Secretary of transportation, and already pledged the army core of engineers to clear debris and rebuild as fast as possible using federal money to be recouped from the shipping company later (not wait years to rebuild while we litigate their responsibility).

Quite a stark contrast in leadership styles on display.

Another viewpoint of the accident…

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Don just filed in court admitting not only does he not have the cash to post his bond, he can’t even get a surety bond to post it even if he puts up everything he owns as collateral. He calls it an impossibility.
That’s weird, isn’t he a multi billionaire? Isn’t MarALago worth nearly $2 billion alone? Seems like no, he claims in court under oath that he doesn’t have 1/2 billion in assets now…forget cash. 😂
It’s all a lie and you buy every word. No matter how dumb you really are, even you can’t be this pathologically gullible to continue believing this convicted fraudster.

Uh oh, sounds like he might have been committing business frauds! Lying about his worth. (He was convicted of exactly that, so we aren’t surprised, but I bet you are). 😂

NY is going to seize properties.

What a record! https://yt3.ggpht.com/dFYkW4kHQsvqUUKbuDL_YPcCzWyk8Oc17sOO4Fj-KHm1t6_0AUJ_yQITUJwWEYxjnrwkmfUIzjnVXgQ=s2532-nd-v1

PS- Where’s Melania?

Michael Cohen to Trump donors: 'It's time to wake up, stupid

mram says...

Denial, not just a river in Egypt.
You didn't even read the article. I'm also not going to create a Rumor Social account to go get them references. His exact "Rumors" were referenced there.

https://web.archive.org/web/20221204214848/https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/109449803240069864
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/109462304115605769

He deleted the original post, but it's obviously been heard, recorded, preserved. And the news caught it. And he even references it in his own reply.

So you don't like Snopes? Here are just a few of the other news articles citing the exact quote:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-confronted-over-donald-trump-not-following-constitution/ar-BB1k2HNV
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/dec/06/donald-trump/trump-said-2020-fraud-calls-for-termination-of-rul/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/12/03/trump-constitution-truth-social/
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/04/us/politics/trump-constitution-republicans.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63851751
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-termination-constitution-1.6674050
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4168261-trump-called-for-termination-of-parts-of-constitution-in-december/

And my favorite:
https://www.foxnews.com/shows/media-buzz/why-trumps-termination-constitution-demanding-reinstatement-over-has-set-off-alarms

So, all fake news, right? He didn't say that at all? All of these sources are entirely wrong? Or you want to cover this with even more denialism?

He only cares about things that benefit him, and if the constitution of the USA is in his way, he'd burn it. "Preserve, protect, and defend" indeed.

Unfit.

bobknight33 said:

Snopes is hardly a credible source.

Show the trump Tweet .. Not some rag -- For the sake of clarity and truthfulness, show the actual text in context.

Like I said.
When did Trump say any of these falsehoods?

Enlighten me?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Once again, Sleepy Joe ran circles around the idiot right and utterly destroyed the stupid talking point that he’s unwell, demented, and catatonic (an accusation that’s really a description of Trump who sundowns daily at or before 3:30.)

He slyly tricked them into abandoning more tax cuts for the rich and their own plans for border security publicly, and easily showed their disastrous record on the economy.
Just like last year and the year before.
Reality just doesn’t enter that empty space between your ears.

The rebuttal was just nuts, smiling vapidly while predicting doom and gloom, and sounding like any second she would say “for just 52 cents a day you could save a MAGGOT. Your donation will supply them with flags, hats, and when needed, bail.” Not the best idea to use a senator who personally wrote the immigration bill then voted against it because Don said to not fix the issue under Biden. Not a great sign to women they put her barefoot in a kitchen, where you undeniably believe women belong. If the point was to appeal to women, it failed.

After completely failing to “live fact check” like he promised he would, Trump reacted like a 4 year old with clips of Biden using idiotic tic tok filters. A 5 year old would be embarrassed…not Trump or MAGA. Your bar is well below that of kindergartners.

Polling immediately before the speech gave Biden policies 45% approval, after it was above 62%.

Habba and Robert are both going to be disbarred for suborning perjury with Wiesselberg, who has now pleaded guilty to perjury in Trump’s business fraud case. I only hope they can be fined the extra $100 million Trump should have been fined for MORE CRIMINAL BUSINESS PRACTICES that were hidden and lied about during the trial….or that NY takes him back to court over them and more. He’s given them every reason to…and now he has no council (right before his litany of criminal trials start) and no lawyer worth a dime wants anything to do with him…why would they? They don’t get paid and as often as hot lose their law license and even see prison.
He paid the $91.6 million to Carroll today, but doesn’t have the $460 due in weeks, and the value of “his” properties is SEVERELY depressed compared to other similar non Trump properties….>30%….and never forget he doesn’t own most properties with his name on them, like Trump tower he only owns his apartment, the lobby, and the public restrooms, not the building. When you count his debts in full and only HIS assets, he’s almost certainly underwater. That’s why MarALago needs to be worth $1.8 billion instead of the $18 million he claimed on his taxes. He overvalues all his properties like that. There’s never been any PROOF that he’s a billionaire, only his flapping gums.
That’s probably why he replaced them as lead council for his appeal.
He really couldn’t have planned this worse. 😂

AI Trump Tells The Whole Truth

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

In just days after it was posted 91 mental health professionals have already signed the petition declaring that Trump is showing multiple signs of full blown advanced dementia, not just misstatements, not just the slurring, not just forgetting who is who and mixing up names and actions, but real, clinical, FULL BLOWN ADVANCED DEMENTIA.
This is not a “diagnosis”, but educated observations by trained professionals that would insist on full cognitive testing if he was their patient.
Trump claims he passed a cognitive test 4+ years ago but never proved it, let him take one on tv. Won’t happen.
Watch, he won’t debate Joe either, because he can’t and his full blown dementia would be in stark contrast to Joe being not just lucid but also knowledgeable.

Bonus- Habba and Robert are in HUGE trouble for not disclosing the perjury they suborned by using Wiesselberg’s false testimony and refused to respond to Engoron when he directly asked them about it. Weisselberg has now pleaded guilty to committing more perjury for Don Trump in this case, perjury which would have increased the award/fine had it been disclosed before the judgement was handed down. They are likely to be disbarred, possibly prosecuted, possibly even fined for the full amount they just stole from NY state by lying in court….hundreds of millions MORE. 😂

Now the prosecutors have every person in the Trump org who was involved in the illegal payoff of the pornstar Trump humped while Melania gave birth either itching to testify like Cohen or terrified they will die in Rikers island if they lie again like Wiesselberg (facing another 10 months already with more to come). Also David Pecker of the National Inquirer who will testify to the catch and kill program he ran of paying accusers for exclusive rights to their stories of being sexually abused by Trump then never running them (sounds a lot like that Hunter’s laptop story that you say was Biden cheating his way into the whitehouse, doesn’t it, except this isn’t a fraudulent bit of “evidence “ produced by Russians, it’s numerous American citizens with evidence…every accusation you make is an admission.). And multiple VPs and lower with knowledge of the illegal schemes. (All of these no longer have a job with Trump since he’s barred from his businesses now and the Trump org is defunked). He has until Thursday to post $83.5 million + interest (or Carroll starts selling buildings), and about 3 weeks for another $450 million+-. That criminal case starts in 3 weeks, right around the time Trump will default on his judgement to New York and what’s left of his properties will be seized. He can’t weasel his way out of all of them, no matter how many complicit judges he packed the courts with. His record in the courts has been abysmal so far.

Bonus - NEW perjury charges for felon Chesebro in Nevada after his secret Twitter and other accounts he claimed under oath didn’t exist and that completely contradict his self serving testimony in multiple criminal cases, and prove he was directly involved in what he knew was an illegal attempt to subvert democracy and use fake documents and electors to falsely install the election loser as the president were discovered.

Lemme guess…every single MAGGOT in the inner circle getting convicted of (usually pleading guilty) perjury (and many other felonies) for telling the same lies you believe in court doesn’t give you a single pause about Trump’s “best people”.

Wow…the abject failure of the “blacks for Trump” frauds this week are hilarious, from a “blacks for Trump” event where the only black people attending were the two on stage with Trump to the hilarious AI generated images of Trump hanging with black folks who have 3 arms and gibberish on their hats/shirts showing exactly how comfortable he is with real black people. 😂

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Oh no! Trump has filed a motion 25 days after judgement asking for a stay of execution because he doesn’t have the $83 million for Carrol, actually asking to be allowed to appeal without posting bond…due in 10 days +- or she can start seizing and selling his properties. It will be rejected, she’s going to get a building or two (remember, Trump said everyone is leaving NY, it’s a total shit show there just so crime ridden and businesses leaving in droves so the value of his properties there is near nothing, she might need three! 😂).
Only a few weeks later his >$460 million judgement to NY comes due. If he doesn’t have $83 million (and can’t get a bond because his assets are forfeited) where do you think he’ll get $460 million +? The Saudis? MAGA? Not daddy Putin, he’s broke. Rest assured the source of his bond, if he can get one, will be publicized and when it turns out to be a foreign nation he will have to register as a foreign agent.

PS- Mr “nobody can ramble like this” killed CPAC. 😂

https://trumpdebtcounter.com/

This is you guy, this you’re pick?

OH SNAP! Chesebro was caught with a secret Twitter account he used to promote the fake elector strategy far more aggressively than he has admitted previously, it has back and forth text conversations and recordings explaining the scheme, clear that it wasn’t about Trump having won but about falsely calling Biden’s victory into question and having Republican legislatures overturn the election and install Trump despite his election loss. He specifically told investigators he had no such accounts…his plea deal likely just evaporated and he’s going away for decades…unless he makes a deal to be a fully cooperative witness. UH-OH! Wanna bet he ends up just like Epstein, the last Trump guy facing the rest of his life in prison who knows where the bodies are buried and is about to spill Trump’s dirty beans?

President Biden Delivers Remarks

newtboy says...

Yes, that kind of clearance, Mr Know Nothing. He had clearance to have every document in his personal possession when he received them, unlike Trump who illegally and secretly stole them from secured facilities. His mistake was trusting his staff to properly forward them to the archives when they packed his senate, and later VP offices.

No, ex senators and ex presidents both don’t have clearance to KEEP classified documents, correct. Trump did not ever have clearance to remove nuclear secrets and other highly classified material from a SCIF, not as president and not after, and it endangers the nation that he did so. It requires written declassification by the DOE, the president cannot declassify nuclear secrets under any circumstances.

The DOJ report indicated Biden did not know his staff had stored a few (6) unlabeled low level classified documents at his secure locked think tank office and personal handwritten notes at his guarded and locked home library (namely a few daily briefs on Afghanistan and some handwritten notes he had made, nothing at all designated top secret), indicated he himself (or attorneys at his instruction) looked for them and immediately reported finding them to the FBI, and allowed them to search that and other properties without requiring a warrant.
The DOJ report also indicated Trump DID know he was illegally taking and retaining highest sensitivity most stringently classified top secret documents by the truckload, not just a small part of one box, refused to return them when asked by the archives, lied about having any, required a warrant for a search, actively hid them when searched, lied again about having MORE, lied about showing them to multiple other parties including foreign agents but was caught red handed on tape, claimed personal ownership (of nuclear secrets), kept them unsecured in public areas, tried to destroy video evidence, claimed they were planted, obstructed Justice multiple times…
…must I go on for you to see the difference, or comprehend why one faces no charge and the other treason?
I’m certain the answer is yes, you haven’t heard enough to admit the situations are completely different despite the fact that one is staff improperly packing up his office when he left it, the other one individual intentionally stealing hundreds of state secrets for personal gain at the nation’s expense…you can never hear enough evidence to admit that.

Is Maddow still on? Sorry Charlie, like I’ve told you a hundred times but you can never recall, I’ve never watched CNN beyond short YouTube clips, not before they went right wing certainly not since. In fact, I think it’s likely that you watch more CNN than I do, you sure like to post and quote them now. If she’s still on and is saying the same things I’m not surprised, she was a smart wonky cookie last I saw.
It’s hilarious when you don’t know my sources, because when you can’t try to impugn the source over nonsense you have no argument at all, just rambling nonsensical insanity spewed from your mouth like explosive diarrhea.

Me thinks you have too little brain in the brain.

😂 Talk about projection! What a confession. 😂

Everything Trump said in that idiotic speech was a lie about Biden and an admission of what he himself did.
I won’t insult your minimal intelligence by pretending you actually believe the delusional ramblings you just posted, they would make a good case for insanity if he believed it, but we all know he doesn’t.
Every word of that insanity was a total fabrication of a delusional mind.

The presidential records act absolutely doesn’t give him the right to take top secret classified documents home when he leaves office, or retain them, or lie under oath about having them, or defy warrants for them, or show them to otherS, NONE OF THAT IS LEGAL UNDER THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT.
Trump obstructed Justice at every possible turn, destroying evidence hiding documents, he still has an unsearched secret room in his bedroom not disclosed when the FBI searched, so likely has MORE stolen documents still. Biden cooperated more than fully with the investigation, which even the political hack Trump appointed special prosecutor admitted.
…and Biden had a grand total of 20 documents or notes designated “classified”, none top secret…Trump had over 325 well marked classified FILES containing multiple classified documents each including I think a dozen or more of the highest most secret files the government has, files never supposed to leave a SCIF and not declassifiable by the president under any circumstances.
Not one word he said was true, and you know it, fool.
That speech if not intentional lies is proof Trumpist Alzheimer’s has progressed to the point of total delusion.

PS- Still waiting.

bobknight33 said:

Not that kind of clearance.
Senators don't have clearance to take and keep classified documents, as the DOJ report indicated.

Me thinks you have too much Rachel Maddow on the brain.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

And more great Bidenomics news. Jobs double expectations, unemployment didn’t go up, stock markets hitting record highs, great gdp numbers, no recession, low and dropping inflation, waiting for the crash Trump hopes for isn’t making it happen.
Ready to admit you were W-W-W-W-W-Wrong on that one? You’ve been saying “just give it time” for a year now, didn’t collapse. 😂

But I get it, admitting your mistakes is hard…if you’re insecure.

newtboy said:

More economic news proving Bidenomics has been great for America. GDP beat all expectations. Unemployment remains at record lows. Inflation is still below 3.5%. Wage growth is above 4.6% (5.1% last year). Stock markets are hitting record high after record highs. The guaranteed recession and likely long term depression forecast for 2022-2023 was avoided completely.
I’m still waiting to hear something that’s not great, and I don’t mean complaining about 2021’s high inflation.

The economy doing great is terrible for Trump, that’s why he’s repeatedly said he hopes our economy crashes and we slide into a depression so maybe he could finally get more votes than his opponent (something that has never once happened in his lifetime).

THIS CROW CAN TALK! LIKE A HUMAN!!!

newtboy says...

I’m not SURE you’re wrong, but that looks like single pane glass which barely muffles sound at all (just like I have in my 70 year old house), and crows are definitely known for learning how to mimic words quite well.

Or perhaps (more likely) this unit has a malfunctioning cpu and its surveillance recordings are getting mixed up with its bird sound effect files and its amplifier is also being overpowered.
Birds aren’t real!

cloudballoon said:

Yeah this crow can talk like I can sing like [insert your fav artist] with auto-tune.

Window's closed. Crow's volume picked up just fine.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

😂The financial monitor for Trump’s finances found another $50 million tax fraud. Just one of dozens upon dozens of frauds, misstatements under oath, illegitimate business practices, and intentional non compliance with the law and direct orders from courts. He got an F- and the monitor said the frauds have continued through the day she submitted her report. This is the report Engoron will use to determine how much to find the Trump org for persistent fraud. Hold onto your hat! 😂

The report included one massive fraud scheme from when he defaulted on loans for the Chicago tower to the tune of $50 million (most of his lenders don’t get paid back, despite his claims they do). The lenders were then blackmailed into “forgiving” those loans on the Chicago tower after he defaulted and he sued them! He then created a shell company to hold the $50 million he had just been “given” (that’s a way to avoid taxes on loan forgiveness, otherwise it’s income). The problem is that shell company then secretly “loaned” that $50 million to Trump and listed him as a bad risk but took no collateral, it was not repayed, seemingly “forgiven”.
Unfortunately for Trump, the Trump Organization (that controlled ALL of Trump’s businesses including the shell companies) has said there is no record of any $48-$50 million loan to Trump, it never happened…but he did personally take the money, it’s just not a loan.
That’s more tax fraud, more bank fraud, and likely wire fraud too. Probably a half dozen felonies for Trump personally in just that scheme. More cases for Trump just keep coming…while more lawyers keep going. Is it just the two idiot bimbos now? Seems like it.

So let’s recap…Hunter Biden didn’t pay his taxes for a few years and owed $1.5 million which he paid but is still being prosecuted.
In this one tax fraud scheme, Trump evaded paying taxes on $50 million, a minimum of another $15 million in taxes he evaded through fraud for at least a decade. He should get at least 10 times the sentence Hunter gets.

Recall, if he’s telling the truth about the value of Mar A Lago, he has evaded over $700 million in taxes to Florida alone on one single property. Trump is the biggest tax fraud in American history…and he’s caught….again.

Today’s bonus- The recent IG reports prove the Trump White House was a total pill mill, handing out hard core drugs without prescription, evaluation, or often even a patient’s name, handing out ungodly amounts of four opioid pain medications: fentanyl, hydrocodone, morphine and oxycodone, and dozens of other scheduled prescription medications like Provigil handed out by the bottle as “parting gifts” for visitors to the whitehouse…a total free for all at the pharmacy run by Trump’s “best people”. Over 2/3 of the patients weren’t even eligible for treatment by the office, but were handed bags full of schedule 1 narcotics for the asking.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/25/trump-white-house-medical-unit-drugs-improper/#

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Trump WAS absolutely found to be a rapist in a court of law, forcible penetration against the victim’s will is rape and it was proven he did that, he managed to run out the statute of limitations for a criminal conviction but he forcibly penetrated a woman against her wishes, it was proven in court.
He tried to sue Carrol for calling him a rapist, but the statements being true is a defense against slander and libel cases so it was thrown out. Try again sucker.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-tosses-trumps-counterclaim-e-jean-carroll-finding-rape-claim-sub-rcna98577

She’s definitely not the only one, his wife said he violently raped her and so did 26 other credible women.
If Joe had done what Trump has been proven in court to have done, the same thing he was recorded bragging about doing, you wouldn’t ever stop calling Joe a rapist and you would be right because that’s what Trump is…you know it’s true.
Donald J Trump raped at least one woman and almost certainly 27 women and girls at a minimum, those are just the credible accusers and don’t include those too afraid to come forward or those he paid for their silence afterwards.

Constant credible death threats and the destruction of her professional career and reputation are worth $88.3 million, again this has been proven in a court of law. Trump said days before the judgement that he intended to continue defaming her forever after the judgement no matter how high it was, so the penalty was designed to change that position because $5 million had no effect at all. It seems to have finally worked. 😂
Also, since the punitive damages are designed to impact the perp, it was tiny if you believe Trump about his net worth. 10% of his total net worth would have been a low amount, and she got under 2% of what he claims to be worth, under 1% of some claims, a nothingburger, stop whining. 😂

Anything else? 😂

bobknight33 said:

Trump was never convicted as a rapist.

No insult is worth 83 Million. 2 or 3 max

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Uh oh….the Matt Gaetz child sex trafficking, drugging, and raping investigations have ramped up, requesting the sealed DOJ records from the Bill Bar investigation that ended without explanation despite his cohort being prosecuted.
Enjoy his sexual history being publicized and used to show what child mollesters and protectors of known child molesters MAGA all are. No surprise since you are led by a serial rapist and well known incestuous pederast.

Trump’s last day in his rape trial was another disaster…showing up late, Habba arguing with the judge and being threatened with prison for contempt, trying and failing to introduce evidence in closing, Trump walking out during closing (all of which show disrespect to the jury and of the system). The best argument given in closing was that Carrol benifits by having her reputation destroyed and receiving multiple death and rape threats daily for years and should be thanking her rapist and abuser because she got a few followers online (so it’s a wash?)…I don’t think that went over well.
Trump was incredibly stupid to post that he will not stop defaming her ever while on trial for defaming her…of course that was shown to the jury right before they went to decide how much to find him to make him stop.
She has asked for $24 million in actual damages and severe punative damages, don’t be surprised if they’re 10x actual damages. Remember, Trump claims to be worth near 10 billion…so it wouldn’t be outrageous if they award a few billion, 50% of his claimed net worth. Fun fact, he will have to post a cash bond in that amount just to file an appeal ! 😂

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

More economic news proving Bidenomics has been great for America. GDP beat all expectations. Unemployment remains at record lows. Inflation is still below 3.5%. Wage growth is above 4.6% (5.1% last year). Stock markets are hitting record high after record highs. The guaranteed recession and likely long term depression forecast for 2022-2023 was avoided completely.
I’m still waiting to hear something that’s not great, and I don’t mean complaining about 2021’s high inflation.

The economy doing great is terrible for Trump, that’s why he’s repeatedly said he hopes our economy crashes and we slide into a depression so maybe he could finally get more votes than his opponent (something that has never once happened in his lifetime).

bobknight33 said:

What idiotic puke are you spewing.

You get your information from the same rag that say Bidenomics is doing great.

Bidenomics is not great.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Wow! More MAGA corruption/election interference news. The corrupt chair of the bankrupt Arizona GOP just resigned after recordings of him trying to bribe Lake to drop out of the senate race and politics (for at least a few years) were made public.



In case you are unaware, Arizona is FAR from the only state GOP party that has hundreds of thousands in outstanding bills but at best tens of thousands in the bank. They don’t have money to pay their rent or past due bills but can find money to bribe each other into leaving politics because even you find yourselves so toxic!
This is your preferred party! 😂

Edit: turns out she blackmailed him into quitting saying he needed to quit today or face another more damaging recording being released. She’s been secretly recording private conversations for years, this one was from at least a year ago. MAGA blackmailing itself now. Who knows what she has on Trump, probably some sick shit.



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