JiggaJonson says... You're fucking dumb. I'm not a hypocrite. Do you know the details of withholding aid in Ukraine? Do you remember when obama was president how the republican congress and senate was stonewalling everything he wanted? Do you remember complaints about executive orders? The Ukraine Support Act proposed in 2014 did not make it out of committee in the house of representatives https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_Support_Act THEREFORE Obama issued two executive orders as part of a national emergency https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/17/executive-order-blocking-property-additional-persons-contributing-situat https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-presidents-continuation-national-emergency-respect-ukraine/ There was a separate bill that guaranteed loans that was later passed but distribution of funds was done mostly through executive order in accordance with The International Emergency Economic Powers Act. THEREFORE Obama actually had prerogative and liberty with which to distribute funds and Biden was acting as his surrogate at the time. In other words, the law was not broken because there wasn't a law to break that existed. ---------------------------------------------------------- THIS IS DISTINCT AND DIFFERENT FROM WHAT DONALD TRUMP DID IN SEVERAL WAYS, BUT DISTINCTLY THAT HE SIGNED A LAW SAYING THAT HE HAD TO DISTRIBUTE THE MONEY In 2019, the appropriations committee passed this and made it a part of an appropriations bill which the president (Trump) signed as part of a budget regulation That is the difference And it's why Biden can use those funds in a discretionary way and have it be legal, and Trump can use them in a discretionary way and have it be illegal (not just because he's investigating a political rival, because he fucking signed the law that said that he had to do it). --------------------------------------------------- The retort is "what about Obama" but the circumstances are different and as much as, and as simple as, it was not against the law for him to do that because the house and the senate didn't pass a law saying he had to do anything with money for Ukraine, that was part of an executive order which gives him that discretion. Donald Trump could have issued an executive order rather than sign off on that budget And it would suddenly be legal. ^^^^^^^^ Don't misunderstand me. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ Don't misunderstand me. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ Don't misunderstand me. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm not saying he's doing something illegal and jumping up and down and squealing and shitting myself like a housewife discovering daytime television. I'm making an observation about how he doesn't care about what laws are passed or not in a more general way. >>>>>>>>>>>>He just doesn't care about following the law. Still, that's a separate issue from rooting out corruption overall versus bringing the entire weight of the federal government, not to mention the government in Ukraine, on Joe Biden. Last I checked no executive order no bill no resolution said "Target Joe Biden specifically" And on the phone call released from Donald Trump in the White House there's only one name that's mentioned. bobknight33 said: If this was OBAMA you all will being a doing a circle jerk of pleasure that Obama is standing up for America and making others finally pay up.' Bunch of hypocrites.