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newtboy says...

Bob, I'll try to ignore your having just being an ignorant douchbag who rudely dismissed those with far more knowledge and personal experience than you possess, simply because they disagreed with your non- medically based, non-scientific based, thoughtless, inhumane political position and I'll try a different tact.....

How is it that, in 2018, you are advocating slavery more foul than the African slave trade....yes, slavery.

Forcing one person to fulfill all the bodily functions of another, brain dead potential "person" (and make no mistake, a blastocyst is not a person, but for sake of argument and your limited understanding capabilities I'll let you claim it is one this one time)....that's Mengele level inhumanity and slavery.

You claim to believe in individual liberties over vague social responsibility....except when you don't.

Forcing one person to physically support another is so far to the left of full socialism you seem to think it went all the way around to the right. It doesn't work that way.
To add the typical right wing slippery slope argument, if the government can force one person to be life support for another potential person, they can force healthy people to give up organs to the unhealthy, or be consigned to hospitals to be used as human dialysis and so forth.
Until those cells can and have survived on their own without support, and can and have functioned as a mammal (meaning breathed, circulated body fluids, and consumed and evacuated foodstuffs) they have not reached "living human" status, and even if you can't grasp that fact, at no point can there be a requirement that another person acts as their sentient intensive care unit without reinstating legal slavery.

Why do you advocate slavery?

When are you donating your kidney and partial liver, and your children's? If you aren't, by your logic you're at least a double murderer and so are they. Why should I or anyone take morality advice from a double murderer?

Design a procedure where the offending not yet human can be safely removed without any (or at least less than an abortion would cause) risk to the mother, but survive on it's own without an incubator-slave, then come back and we'll talk.... until then forced incubation and forced birth is monstrously draconian socialism of a kind even Mengele would turn away from in disgust.

Edit: I came up with an argument I think might change your many baby Newtboys would you force on the planet before you decided abortion should be mandatory in some cases?

bobknight33 said:

«Some insulting ignorance»

JiggaJonson says...

My wife and I carry a recessive Gene that causes the disease NPC type C
It's got the horrible nick name of "Alzheimer's for little kids"
We found out we carry said Gene when we had our daughter and have this to look forward to

A few years ago, Indiana passed a law making it illegal to have an abortion because of genetic abnormalities. You can only have an abortion of a healthy pregnancy. The law was stopped by a federal judge, but other laws have lined up to take it's place, enough that working with insurance has become a nightmare. There are 4 other laws that are hindering us moving forward.

So, again, if we could more easily have an abortion, rather than watch a child slowly and needlessly die, we would, and then wait until we had a healthy fetus.

"Just move to another state" oh, yeah that's so fucking easy

If we had easier access to legal abortion, my family would already be bigger. Not that any of this is any of your business, but people have unique situations that you may not have considered.

bobknight33 said:

What you are you saying. Does not make sense. Maybe you replied in anger and not clear thought.

I'll disregard you comment and let you re reply if you choose to do so.

I agree Some people need to be able to have abortions.. But not just because I want is not a reason.

On an pregnancy note How many ultrasounds do you look at? I've been looking at images for 19 years. We can argue when "Life " becomes " Life" But medically speaking Ultrasounds are moving the goal line closer and closer to mid first Term at the least. You can see the heart beat as early as 30 days but it too weak of a pulse to hear/measure. At 12 weeks you can measure the fetal heart rate.

JiggaJonson says...

Don't talk to me about abortion you dumb prick. Laws preventing abortion in my state are keeping me from having a family.

That's right. If my wife and I could have abortions, our family would be bigger now.

Some people need to be able to have abortions. It's not murder any more than me jerking off and my wife having a period. Laws against fatricide are wrong. You don't get a fertilization certificate, you get a birth certificate.

It's like I'm talking to a Putin sock puppet.

bobknight33 said:

Sometimes the Truth is sobering.
Find a real cause.
Abortion, The most dangerous place for a baby in in the womb.
More Murders /year than all other murders combined.

And you call me a bigot. Look in the mirror.

I don't mind different opinions but the left are mostly wrong.

JiggaJonson says...

I guess the best evidence yet is that the only real charges levied against anyone, the only people actually arrested are from the Trump camp.

There's this:

But, as scopes points out, that story is not actually true.

Keep on beating your drum about how everyone in the Trump camp is so innocent, we'll keep actually arresting them and charging them while you follow the propaganda.

Oh and the EPA admin resigned today amid ethics scandals. I'll look forward to seeing him behind bars while you keep chanting "LOCK HER UP" without anything actually happening to her.

Who is the Executive in charge of the Justice Department again?

JiggaJonson says...

You can say he ordered them to stand down, BUT

"It's not accurate to say that all activity ceased at that point."
And he goes on to explain that focus was shifted towards helping the states protect the integrity of the election systems.

It seems to me that the O-Admin underestimated the social-hacking taking place through propaganda efforts from the Ruskies, much like we all did before most of it came to light. It's a far cry from the current admin's "Russia if you're listening" and general 'We need to get along better with Russia' sentiments.

And it's odd that you're taking the side of Flynn considering even the current administration fired him in short order because of his dishonesty about his Russian entanglements. I'm not picking him as a "bad" guy, the Trump administration, the Obama administration, and the Justice Department is.

JiggaJonson says...

Feel free to reply, nothing is more American than putting down your own government in a show of free speech.

Please try to stick to primary sources as I mostly have.

JiggaJonson says...

Rather than edit the previous post, I'll add a comment here about why I pulled Flynn out of the group to cite:

Flynn is the most blatant example of the bunch. There are many human shields ready to take the fall, but there's a problem with Flynn compared to the rest. We know what he knew when. We know what Trump knew about Flynn and when.

Take a look at a search on Trump and Flynn from Jan-Feb before he was fired in 2017:

His son was fired prior to that, but he had some strong words on Twitter in May of this year

JiggaJonson says...
"On or about December 29, 2016, FLYNN called a senior official of the Presidential Transition Team ("PTT official"), who was with other senior ·members of the Presidential Transition Team at the Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, to discuss what, if anything, to communicate to the Russian Ambassador about the U.S. Sanctions. On that call, FLYNN and 2 Case 1:17-cr-00232-RC Document 4 Filed 12/01/17 Page 2 of 6 the PTT official discussed the U.S. Sanctions, including the potential impact of those sanctions on the incoming administration's foreign policy goals. The PIT official and FLYNN also discussed that the members of the Presidential Transition Team at Mar-a-Lago did not want Russia to escalate the situation. "

^The Trump campaign knew about him breaking the law conducting affairs with a foreign adversary but still kept him in the White House until it was clear he was going to be indited.

Also, Flynn and Kushner (again this is prior to swearing in, aka illegal)


I can go through the rest, but see for yourself
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^All the indictments hosted on the justice department's website.

I could go through all of them like I did Flynn above, but thankfully, people are already compiling a list of contacts and the denials associated with said contacts:


And last but not least, those denials about contact that were made to the investigators arguably constitute obstruction of justice, the thing Nixon and Bill Clinton were impeached for.

Here's a quote from Nixon's first article of impeachment:
"The means used to implement this course of conduct or plan included one or more of the following:

making false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States;

withholding relevant and material evidence or information from lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States;

approving, condoning, acquiescing in, and counselling witnesses with respect to the giving of false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States and false or misleading testimony in duly instituted judicial and congressional proceedings;

interfering or endeavouring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the Department of Justice of the United States, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the office of Watergate Special Prosecution Force, and Congressional Committees;"

Honestly now, has Trump made any false or misleading statements about his team's contact with Russia? Has he withheld any relevant evidence?

Did he endevor to interfere with the conduct of an investigation?

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So did he collude with Russia? who cares, no one is being charged or investigated with collusion.

Did he obstruct justice by misleading any US official or interefere with said investigation? That's debateable, and we'll have to see all that Meuller is going to put in the public record before anyone can make a clear decision. But it sure as hell looks bad, and it's very much NOT "Still no crime Still ZERO ZIP NADA"

If you look at the timeline for Nixon or Bill Clinton's impeachment, a lot of staffers (human shields) went down before the investigators got to the top.

bobknight33 said:

So what is the connection with Trump?

Mueller has caught up some folks for past deeds, which is good. What connections are there with the election?

newtboy says...

Really? Explain. What did I say that's untrue? There aren't multiple convictions for lying to the feds already? I guess that was fake news......

Typical of you, be dismissive and derisive as if you have a counter point or evidence, but you don't.

bobknight33 said:

Dude you are delusional. Typical for your kind. There is nothing there. Really I thought better of you. I guess I was wrong.

newtboy says...

He caught up some folks for past deeds, being meetings, debts, massive payments, communications, and partnerships with Russia that they all hid and lied about to the feds under oath when they were interviewed and when they filled out the required legal forms as part of the election team and later as part of the administration, caught and convicted. Also some for witness tampering, threatening others to tell their version of the story and not the truth to investigators about their meetings and dealings with Russians.
These are his team leaders, the clean, upright, best people he has draining the swamp, which leaves a rotting, stinking cess pool full of rotting fish and snakes (which is a good description of the Republican party today).

You cannot be that ignorant of what they're even being investigated for and have already been convicted of yet continue to shout "no collusion, no crime" from your soap box in your tin foil hat like you know least not without being called out on it.

bobknight33 said:

So what is the connection with Trump?

Mueller has caught up some folks for past deeds, which is good. What connections are there with the election?

JiggaJonson says...

Oh hey! Remember that judge who questioned Robert Mueller's authority? He ruled on the case today

"The May 17 Appointment Order plainly authorizes the investigation of indirect links between Trump campaign officials and the Russian government in addition to more direct connections. In this regard, the May 17 Appointment Order authorizes the Special Counsel to investigate defendant’s ties with individuals financially and politically supported by the Russian government, even where, as here, those individuals are not themselves members of the Russian government. "

So, being the honest person you so obviously are, I'm happy to have helped you to see the light.

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