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Comments to JiggaJonson

BSR says...

Maybe time to give it a rest or go private?

JiggaJonson said:

Where's that confidence ? lets GAMBLE because it's possible trump wo..pffffffft sorry i almost got through that sentence.

but seriously i'll take your money if you're still brainwashed

siftbot says...

Congratulations! Your dedication to finding diamonds in the rough and pushing videos of other members to success has earned you your "Assister" Level 27 Badge!

BSR says...

At this point in time, I have recovered approximately 20 covid bodies since they started falling. So far no problems due to following guidelines from experts.

First, let me tell you I respect you and what you are doing. I also see that your efforts with bob are tearing you down. When you start writing in all caps it tells me you are trying to yell through a brick wall. Funny thing about walls though. Sometimes it's hard to know if you are on the inside or outside.

Just know that some people can't be reached. I'm sure bob has heard all the facts but yet chooses to go his own way for whatever reason. This tells me that bob hasn't had enough life experiences to make good decisions. Whether he is just a troll or really believes what he says it still comes back to his life experiences or lack of.

He starts fires and you rush around with a bucket of water trying to put out the flames. Your efforts are commendable and I respect you for that.

What I don't care for is what he is doing to you. You don't deserve it and I think as long as you just put the facts out there, everyone can pick up their own bucket and help put out fires.

Have faith that one day bob will be touched by reality when someone he loves is taken away. Then your words may be heard for the first time with him. That is when he may realize for the first time your efforts were to protect him and others. You won't need to tell him "I told you so". He will remember.

If you don't believe bob can change how will he ever believe it?

In the meantime keep protecting the ones you love. They deserve your time more than bob does. If you believe bob deserves more of your time, give him a way to find the door back to you.

I'm on your side.

JiggaJonson said:

Get off your high horse. People are dying and apples like this who spread misinformation and nonsense are to blame. You have a way to do it? Get on with it then

BSR says...

Well, if you've said once, you've said it a thousand times.

Yes, I see you crumbling. I see you creating.

Yes, Incompetence.

JiggaJonson said:

I never denied saying that. I'll say it again if you like.

“Destruction is a form of creation.”
-Graham Greene

I should probably thank @bobknight33 . Now I know why people cut the tongues out of some men.

newtboy says...

It's worth pointing out, part of the stimulus package was granting immunity from responsibility, criminal and civil, when schools or businesses have the inevitable outbreaks and kids or workers are permanently disabled or die. For every 20 infected, one will die, but a few will have life ruining results without dying. The administration knows this, it's why they added immunity, because most places wouldn't reopen if they were responsible for the injuries and deaths that will cause, and those that did would be sued out of existence.
We are creating a new class of disabled, destroying both their health and finances, and most won't survive their first bought of homelessness.
JiggaJonson says...
America is in for a serious wake up call when schools don't reopen

newtboy says...

Yes, Trump wants the schools open, and actually says not going to school is killing children and parents, more than the virus....but isn't planning on sending his children/grandchildren, it's not safe enough for them, just for the pleebs.

Too bad his morons are closed to logic, or it would be easy to prove that their anti mask tantrums have, and will continue to, expand and extend the pandemic. Every time they chant "open up" in maskless groups they ensure it will take longer to reopen.

JiggaJonson said:

How's that Trump 2020 air treating you? Enjoy breathing while you can I suppose. Well Trump says it's under control and he's saved X lives and blah blah and he wants all the schools open immediately. I say wear a mask but I just watched him in a video say that people need the freedom to not wear them.





newtboy says...

me too. As much as I love my home, I'm honestly kicking myself for not moving to New Zealand 4 years ago. If Trump steals this election, I'll have to upgrade that to hitting myself with my own car, and it still won't be enough.

JiggaJonson said:

Urgh i need this nightmare to be over.

newtboy says...

Ohhhhh...New approval ratings today....the biggest loser's at 38% and falling.
That's reported to be 98% of Republicans approving and 2% of democrats....meaning there's barely 37% of the country left willing to even admit they're republicans.
Thanks Lil Donny, you've done more to destroy the Republican party than Democrats ever could. Congratulations.
I guess they all got tired of "winning".

JiggaJonson said:

Still think he's handling the coronavirus well ? Yeah swine flu was just like this right ? Bird flu? Yeah i guess obama fucked up the usa response just like this right?

Enjoy the leadership ! Look! I get it. If you don't fall in line then the kgb will probably throw you out a window or something. Find a way to reach out to someone. You don't have to be a Russian troll! We can rescue you !

newtboy says...

I've been saying it for almost 4 years now, ever since state sponsored Russian trolls became news. He sure plays the part to a T.

I've also said he unquestionably works for Russia, whether on purpose or not is the only question, but it's a distinction without any difference.

JiggaJonson said:

@newtboy I called this a long time ago, he's a russian troll.

siftbot says...

Happy anniversary! Today marks year number 12 since you first became a Sifter and the community is better for having you. Thanks for your contributions!

newtboy says...

Sorry for your family's loss.
My mother and stepfather both caught it in February, but both recovered.

JiggaJonson said:

Don't mistake me, im not unreasonable. Im sure we probably could find someone who didn't add an asterisk and say "IF no one does anything" as an attempt to get ratings. As someone with extra time on his hands who was watching the news nearly constantly though, I didnt see that.

That said, still don't think the claim holds up. Even if there was halfhazard use of that study as a headline creator at times, he's using it as a justification to say basically that there definitely WERE going to be these deaths, and trump stopped them. That is simply not true. If even one single person decided to wear a mask, those numbers drop.

That and there are degrees of good and bad jobs being done, it's not binary.

Closing down the country? good.
Closing it down earlier? better.
Not restocking the emergency stockpilke when warned? bad
Blaming obama when he is the one who fired the pandemic team? asshole
Funneling money for small business relief into his own company and his son in laws? criminal
Opening too soon? bad
Finally encouraging people to wear masks? okay, but could be better


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my cousin just died
39, 5 kids
she had "fluid on the lungs"
but it's not determined yet the cause
like im saying my mom just called me 1 hour ago
im tryin to find a fucking picture of her on her husband's facebook
but all i can find is shit about not wearing masks and how obama is trying to stop trump from blah blah blah

Did donald trump kill my cousin? absolutely not.
Did he help spread propaganda that encouraged her to not wear a mask and break social distancing because 'MERICA!? yes And he's currently trying to force the RNC to accomodate 50k people in one small space, to boot.

She was 39, 5 kids

newtboy says...

Not only that, it's a worst case scenario based on no one doing a thing over the course of the outbreak if it lasts for years and the medical system is overwhelmed.

As you said, NO CREDIBLE PERSON said it WOULD or even COULD happen in "a few months", or ever in the real world, which was his claim. Only people like Trump intentionally misstating the conclusions to create paper tigers he could slay have said it.

JiggaJonson said:



"The 2.2 million figure was a projection based on a scenario where not only do the government and private companies not engage in any "control measures," but individuals don't on their own change their behavior to avoid contracting or spreading the virus. The study refers to this possibility as "unlikely," but let's be blunt: it's entirely fanciful. "

That's the origin. So yes, we are doing better than if the entire country 's population of individuals did nothing, AND the government did nothing. That's technically true, but it's about as likely as people sitting at their desks when the office catches fire.

newtboy says...

Dude. Tell me you aren't really surprised. ;-)
You know full well this is straight from the Trump chump playbook. Whenever challenged on the truthfulness of their claims they offer random "proof"...which is NEVER a truthful defense and usually actually proves exactly what they're arguing against, like this time....then they invariably actively ignore any further discussion on the subject to avoid having their nose rubbed in their mess.

That's the problem with blind faith in a convicted con man paired with well below average intelligence and a complete inability to reason or comprehend, it leads to (sometimes deadly) dishonest obstinate obstructionism based on obvious lies at it's best, and it's rarely that good.

Recent polls show that 41% of "Republicans" (Trump voters) actually believe Bill Gates is funding Covid vaccine research in order to secretly inject billions of people with microchips (they have no idea towards what ends, but they know it's true), and another 34% aren't sure but think it's likely true, only 25% are rational enough to say they don't believe it (but in private I bet they're less certain). Do you honestly believe one of these people has the capacity for rationality, truth, or reasoned discussion?

It does explain why republicans don't want to restrict firearms from the mentally defective, 3/4 of them would lose their rights on day 1.

JiggaJonson said:


This is not what i asked for, this is someone from the Trump administration SAYING that someone in the media is saying that + a bunch of word salad nonsense.

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