in this episode of his TeleSUR show, “Days of Revolt,” Chris Hedges sits down with author John Ralston Saul to talk about neoliberalism as an ideology, the lack of real political debate today and what our future holds.

“First of all you know what’s astonishing is that neoliberalism has nothing to do with 19th century liberalism,” explains Saul, author of “Voltaire’s Bastards: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West.” “In other countries, the same thing is called neoconservatism, which has absolutely nothing to do with conservatism. So, in both cases, it’s one of those, you know, stealing, going behind the curtains and pretending you’re something you’re not in order to calm people down. ‘We’re just a new kind of conservative. We’re just a new kind of liberal.’ When, in fact, they’re neither. They’ve nothing to do with either.”