What I don't understand is how this controls for other factors? People who have a high Vitamin-D tend to be healthier in general. If you give unhealthy people Vitamin-D supplements -- that won't help their outcomes.

So if you synthesize your own through exposure to sunlight, you’re good? Or at least better off?
Is it possible that it’s not the delivery method, but the systems that use vitamin D being healthy beforehand vs being supplemented after the fact? Maybe it takes a while to get those systems healthy, and supplements don’t help with that.

Edit: Maybe, since the same receptors are used to metabolize vitamin D as to infect a cell with covid, those receptors being “full” might be what’s stopping infections, and dosing with vitamin D after infection doesn’t magically replace the Covid with vitamin D? Not really about vitamin D or why you need it, just about the mechanism the body uses to use the vitamin D? Biology is intricate, and why things work and how is not always clean and simple.

Melatonin? Then why aren’t people with more melatonin, people of color, nearly immune? Why are island nations like the Virgin Islands still having outbreaks today? Why were Southern states hit just as hard or harder than northern states? Many questions here.

His explanation seems to confirm this. If your cells produce vitamin D efficiently, they are less prone to infections, if you artificially add artificial vitamin D, it helps with the cellular functions, but the processes that should be producing it are still suppressed, possibly more because your body isn’t triggering them due to low vitamin D levels. It’s less about overall vitamin D levels than about having healthy systems that properly produce and utilize it….at least that’s my takeaway.

It’s not just about sunlight..it’s about diet, overall health, sleep, etc. biology is complex, and we always want a simple solution. There isn’t one most of the time, and our attempts to simplify only make things worse. Eat well, sleep well, get some sun, get some exercise, and you’ll be as safe as you can be naturally….then try supplements in addition, not instead.

I get plenty of sun, and my windows are from the 50’s. It definitely makes me feel better to get sun, but there’s a limit. Don’t just go sunbathe in Arizona, use your brain.

Texas held a similar rally in late July....the organizer, 30 year old Caleb Wallace, showed signs of covid by July 30 but refused testing or treatment, opting for vitamins and ivermectin, a horse dewormer conspiracy theorists have decided is some kind of covid medicine (it's not), and was hospitalized shortly thereafter and has been in icu since Aug 8 near death. His family, pregnant wife and three young kids, is begging online for funds to pay home and medical bills. The hospital has asked his family to sign a do not resuscitate order because they have no treatment options and are running out of oxygen thanks to so many anti vaxers filling the hospitals.
So far they have refused to sign, forcing the hospital to continue to treat him, meaning someone else with a chance to survive can't get a hospital bed and they will die too.

This guy spouted some of the most dangerous, anti science, anti medicine conspiracy theories and lies for a year, and worked hard to stop any actual medical advice from being followed.

No one deserves this outcome more. If only he had to live with it...death seems like he's getting off easy, leaving his family and the rest of us to live with the consequences of his choices.

IDK seems like mostly crap, actually.
Smallpox and vitamins? Seriously?
Most other examples and allegories are similarly silly.

If we cant tell what is virtuous unless we stop looking how does Watts know what is virtuous? Is he not the one pulling a fish out of water to save it from drowning? How can he tell? How can anyone? Whatever. We cant lose if we stop running, right?

Of the near 210000 deaths, >181000 would have been saved, never infected, if everyone had worn masks and the "lockdown" was actually implemented two weeks earlier and was followed.

Trump's "nothing burger" claims and "wear a mask if you want, or not" and slow reactions, lack of concern, complaints about states that did lockdown, and contradictory messages directly caused >90% of all cases and deaths according to the CDC before he removed the real scientists and replaced them with Trump spokesmen who only repeat Trump, not science or facts. Politicizing the CDC is criminal.

Now, if Trump hadn't defunded and disbanded the international pandemic team Obama put in place, the virus likely wouldn't have made it out of China, making all deaths on American soil direct results of Trump's insecurity and inability to lead. Had he used the pandemic plan Obama left that they ignored and claimed didn't exist through June, America might have had a few cases, but not an epidemic. Trump's idiocy, his 80 IQ that seems genius to your ilk, caused it. It's poetic justice it's likely to take him down.

Btw, dumb shit, non n95 masks don't protect the users, they just help control the spread. Not a bit surprised you don't understand....but 3rd graders can.

Side note....you might notice, Trump is on a huge cocktail of drugs, vitamins, and anti viral medications, but not hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine. Why not, @bobknight33? He's pushed it for months as a perfect cure, but won't take it himself. Don't tell me he lied about it's efficacy and safety!
Also, his doctors admitted he's been on them for 72 hours as of Sat morning, so they've known he's infected since Wednesday morning but he still handed out maga caps with bare hands at rallies and pressed the flesh indoors with his major donors during the most infectious period of his infection. He didn't care if he infected all of you....not....one....bit.

Arguably the beach gives you vitamin D which supposedly...

Chemistry is like a fancy desert recipe. Omit one key ingredient, even one you can't really taste, and the whole soufflé falls flat.
That's why it's important to get all your vitamins AND minerals, neither works well without the other....and don't ever forget the baking powder.

Low magnesium levels make vitamin D ineffective
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180226122548.htm

"Approximately 50% of the US population does not have adequate magnesium intake. Magnesium is required by enzymes to convert vitamin D3 into the active steroid hormone that regulates over 5% of the protein-encoding human genome!
Low magnesium levels make vitamin D ineffective" - Dr. Rhonda Patrick

If you are interested in what she ( the science/studies say) has to say regarding Vitamin C. It's a tricky one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_ZJ8YDOX6g&feature=youtu.be&t=3355

Stuck inside sick then stuck in ICU = vitamin D deficiency. Like she says, correlation is not causation. But to netwboy's point, it's a very studied compound with not a lot of known downside if taken as directed, so whaddya got to lose? Just a bit of money, like all those vitamin C pills I took to keep from getting sick

- Study in Indonesia found that out of the patients that died from COVID-19, 98.9% of them were deficient in vitamin D, while only 4% of the patients with sufficient vitamin D died. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3585561

- Study of patients in New Orleans found that 84.6% of the COVID-19 patients in the ICU were deficient in Vitamin D while only 4% of the patients in the ICU had sufficient levels of Vitamin D. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20075838v1

- Study in the Philippines found that for every standard deviation increase in vitamin D people were 7.94 times more likely to have a mild rather than severe COVID-19 outcome and 19.61 times more likely to have a mild rather than critical outcome. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3571484

"Ya know, seventy percent of the US population has insufficient vitamin D levels..."

The experts keep telling us to avoid the sun. Numerous studies show supplementing D with a pill doesn't do the job (google it). Surprised? They're finding that about most vitamins, after all. And in fact, some studies suggest (right along with logic) that doing so can cause harm: since the sun uses cholesterol to produce D, avoiding the sun and supplementing D (thus, removing any need to produce it naturally) can actually raise your cholesterol. Yes, it's not 100% scientifically confirmed yet, but what is? Thought experiment.

Toss the supplements. We evolved under the sun; go out in it periodically for a while, just don't get burnt.


Edit: Having now watched the whole thing, I now see they do cover much of that. Alright, well, Go get some sun.

Yall should get on that Vitamin D train. *promote

Unlike Hydroxychloroquine, this really is a "what do you have to lose?" situation. There's no downside to getting your RDA of vitamins and minerals. Natural sources are usually best when possible, but properly made synthetics are better than nothing.
*quality health info

You can find a more dialed in summary and video on Dr Rhonda Patricks page here. https://www.foundmyfitness.com/episodes/vitamin-d-covid-19

Take your Vitamin D. I'm sure many of you out there are deficient, and now is a horrible time to be be deficient in Vitamin D.