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QI - How Many Senses Do We Have?

xxovercastxx says...

>> ^soulmonarch:
One chief characteristic of scientists is that they are never happy with a simple definition when they can make up a more complicated one. Apparently only because adding new words makes one sound smarter.
Essentially, they have subdivided the 'sense of touch' into four smaller groups:
- Nociception (pain)
- Thermoception (temperature)
- Proprioception (kinestics)
- Equilibrioception (balance)


Considering nociception and thermoception forms of touch is somewhat excusable, I suppose. After all, we normally notice something is hot, cold or sharp while touching it. If you don't allow yourself to think about it beyond that, it's easy to conclude they are one and the same, but to think proprioception or equilibrioception are forms of touch shows a distinct lack of understanding of what those senses are and/or how they function.

QI - How Many Senses Do We Have?

mauz15 says...

>> ^soulmonarch:
One chief characteristic of scientists is that they are never happy with a simple definition when they can make up a more complicated one. Apparently only because adding new words makes one sound smarter.
Essentially, they have subdivided the 'sense of touch' into four smaller groups:
- Nociception (pain)
- Thermoception (temperature)
- Proprioception (kinestics)
- Equilibrioception (balance)
I, for one, call that complete bullshit.
All of those are tactile (touch-based) sensations, and each relies upon the others to function correctly. Sub-dividing them into separate categories doesn't give us a deeper understanding about how each of them function, it just gives people more BS to argue about instead of doing REAL work.
But, most importantly, making up new definitions for the sake of simply making up new definitions makes people sound like pompous dicks.
Uh... /rantoff
Sorry.


I assume you understand the sense of touch enough to make such conclusions?

So if we not divide it into those categories, then how do we deal with a person who gets a virus, it fucks his nerves but not completely, leaving him able to: feel temperature, have balance, and feel pain but has no ability to understand the location of his body? do we (assuming scientist do not categorize touch) say he has a touch problem and leave it at such enormously ambiguous terms? or do we (as we should do) analyze his condition and go: hmm only his propioception is affected, less focus on that. or would you rather have the doctors waste time dealing with all the four variables because 'dividing a vague idea of touch' would be pretentious. How is categorization of ideas and things we have not finished to explore a bad idea?

Are you actually saying that just because those 4 things are dependent on each other, we should not bother categorizing them? Hmm what if each of those happen to have different types of receptors and/or types of cells specialized for each of them? Assuming that we can understand the complexity of the human senses by simply treating them as a whole entity free of components is in my opinion quite arrogant, bullshit and pompous.

I'm making these questions out of pure curiosity, because I can't see how what you are saying holds any water.

QI - How Many Senses Do We Have?

soulmonarch says...

One chief characteristic of scientists is that they are never happy with a simple definition when they can make up a more complicated one. Apparently only because adding new words makes one sound smarter.

Essentially, they have subdivided the 'sense of touch' into four smaller groups:

- Nociception (pain)
- Thermoception (temperature)
- Proprioception (kinestics)
- Equilibrioception (balance)

I, for one, call that complete bullshit.

All of those are tactile (touch-based) sensations, and each relies upon the others to function correctly. Sub-dividing them into separate categories doesn't give us a deeper understanding about how each of them function, it just gives people more BS to argue about instead of doing REAL work.

But, most importantly, making up new definitions for the sake of simply making up new definitions makes people sound like pompous dicks.

Uh... /rantoff

Sorry.

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