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Slow Loris Attack - Computerphile

Mordhaus says...

No, and that is a method to combat Slow Loris. You can also raise the number of concurrent connections, decrease the timeout on connection response, setting up reverse proxies, and other methods in a similar fashion.

The problem is that you can also modify Slow Loris to work around those methods. The only certain way to block it is to use a webserver software that is not affected by Slow Loris, but then you can encounter other difficulties.

Like he said, for large companies that are prepared, Slow Loris is not nearly as effective. But for smaller web sites or for shoddily put together ones (a LOT of government sites), Slow Loris is a nasty DOS attack.

Baristan said:

Is it really that hard to detect 200 open sockets from the same IP addr?

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End Slow Loris Trade Now (WARNING: Disturbing Content)

Chairman_woo says...

"What if I told you that tickling them was like torture?"

Then I'd say: "please explain why this is and how you worked it out so I can contribute meaningfully to the issue."

Genuinely had to check after watching that this wasn't a hoax/satire. I'm not sure it could have come across as much more patronising and manipulative if they had tried.

Really reminded me of G.E.F.A.F.W.I.S.P. thing from brasseye in it's style and presentation. (Poe's law etc.)

Not that I disagree with the underlying point being made (most exotic pets have massive hidden costs to the animals well being), but I think they made it very poorly indeed.

If tickling is indeed torturous to them, then maybe make the flagship advert for your campaign do more than glibly announce "they don't like it!" whilst showing a video of what, to uneducated human sensibilities, appears to be joy/pleasure.

I'm not suggesting they are wrong, but even their website provides no materials or evidence to back up what they are saying. With a term as emotive and loaded as "torture", that comes across as rather disingenuous and makes me naturally somewhat suspicious as to their motives.

i.e. that they are likely ideologically opposed to most/all animal trafficking already and will happily muddy the facts & manipulate emotions if it furthers their higher purposes.

^ I don't want the above to come across as support for the Slow Loris pet trade, their unsuitability to domestic life and the need for pretty specialised knowledge to keep them healthy is reason enough (same as the vast majority of exotics). Chris Packham is one of the supporters and I have a great deal of respect for the guy's knowlage on such subjects.

But this, if anything, makes that advert seem all the more distasteful. YOU HAD EXPERTS! Persuade me better!

I also don't want to come across as suggesting that tickling definitely isn't deeply unpleasant for them for whatever reasons, but a cursory google and inspection of their own campaign site yielded nothing of any substance on the subject either way. (maybe my search-fu was lacking today?)

Again, I'm willing to accept the premise. If it will stand on it's own merits then I would like to understand. I will even advocate for the movement myself! But I'm not going to endorse anything I either can't or don't yet properly understand myself.

For every level headed campaigner with a basic sense of discernment and empathy for other creatures, there seems to be a mob of authoritarian ideologues eager to beat us around the head until we see things exactly their way and deny and semblance of nuance (i.e. PETA).

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xxovercastxx says...

>> ^meggymoo:

Here's a fun fact. The slow loris is the worlds only venomous primate. They also stink.


That's debatable since they secrete the toxin from their elbows. "Venomous" implies that the toxin is injected directly with a bite, sting, spur, etc.

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mxxcon says...

>> ^grubert:

From Wikipedia:
"Despite local laws prohibiting trade in slow lorises and slow loris products, as well as protection from international commercial trade under Appendix I, slow lorises are openly sold in animal markets in Southeast Asia and smuggled to other countries, such as Japan. They have also been popularized as pets in viral videos on YouTube. Slow lorises have their teeth cut or pulled out for the pet trade, and often die from infection, blood loss, poor handling, or poor nutrition."
That's why this thing eats rice instead of insects.

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grubert says...

From Wikipedia:

"Despite local laws prohibiting trade in slow lorises and slow loris products, as well as protection from international commercial trade under Appendix I, slow lorises are openly sold in animal markets in Southeast Asia and smuggled to other countries, such as Japan. They have also been popularized as pets in viral videos on YouTube. Slow lorises have their teeth cut or pulled out for the pet trade, and often die from infection, blood loss, poor handling, or poor nutrition."

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Boise_Lib says...

Good! All in good humor then.

Your stats really are impressive.
Just shows you're about the quality not the quantity.

I'll see you around.
In reply to this comment by Gallowflak:
To be honest, I haven't actually watched the video. But my comment was made in a sarcastic but non-antagonistic spirit. I just think the idea of it being on here is hilarious, but I have no problem with it, if that's what you were wondering.

And thanks! I had no idea about any of that, haha. I don't sift much, really, just because most of the videos I come across are either already here or probably not interesting to others.



In reply to this comment by Boise_Lib:
Did you mean this as sarcasm, or that you liked the video?
Either way it's your right, I'm just trying to get to know the people here.

Impressive record, BTW.
Two number one vids--eight top 15's and a 39.7 votes per vid.

Bravo!

In reply to this comment by Gallowflak:
Thank you so much.





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