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Max Cooper - Repetition (video by Kevin McGloughlin)

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Cee Lo's Fuck You in Sign Language, SO Cool!

CeeLo's F* You performed in Sign Language

CeeLo's F* You performed in Sign Language

CeeLo's F* You performed in Sign Language

Slavoj Zizek: PC is a more dangerous form of totalitarianism

00Scud00 says...

Quite true, and it's a risk you take when you do that and suffer the consequences if it bombs, comedians push these boundaries all the time (the good ones at least, IMHO). When he joked with that disabled person about the sign language was that person genuinely offended or did they connect over the joke which might have occurred to them as well?

And I honestly can't see how hidden racism/sexism/ or any other isms I can think of is an improvement. You can't fight an enemy you can't see, you have movements like Black Lives Matter and others having to first convince everyone that there is actually a problem before they can even begin to address the problem itself. So, no, not fantastic, pretending you don't have cancer doesn't make the cancer go away, it just festers and eventually spreads throughout the whole system.

I'm glad we both agree it was a stupid decision and while it may be their stupid decision to make it doesn't mean that Zizek and others can't criticize that decision and explain why they think it's stupid.

And censorship comes in many forms, Governmental is only one of the easiest to recognize. The tyranny of the majority is a very real thing, maybe they can't throw you in jail, but they can make your life very difficult and that can be enough to silence many. And that can make it into a totalitarianism of it's own kind, I find a lot of Left Wing extremism to be equally as dangerous and crazy as the Right Wing brand.
It's been shown time and time again that even without the law behind you you can pretty much destroy someone's life just because they said something you didn't like, all I'm saying is "maybe you SHOULDN'T".

I listen to the Intelligence Squared debates sometimes and I thought this seemed relevant, interesting debate.
http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/past-debates/item/1310-liberals-are-stifling-intellectual-diversity-on-campus

@Zawash
PC Master Race, checking in!

ChaosEngine said:

There's a difference between public and private speech. If you're talking to someone you know, well, by definition you know them and you know where to draw the line. My friends throw all kinds of anti-Irish racist slurs at me that I would take serious offence at coming from someone else.

As for the idea that PC "hides" racism/sexism/homophobia, fantastic! The more it's hidden away, the less people are exposed to it, until it becomes more and more socially unacceptable to be a racist, sexist, homophobic asshole.

Again re the opera: first, it was Perth not Sydney, and second, I agree it's stupid. But it was the opera companies stupid decision to make. No-one forced them to do this.

Here's the importance point: PC is not censorship. Censorship is saying you CAN'T say this, PC is saying "maybe you SHOULDN'T".

Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences of speech. If someone says something racist or sexist or whatever, I have the right to express my opinion that they shouldn't have said those things. If that's PC, so be it.

Eminem's Lose Yourself in American Sign Language

Eminem's Lose Yourself in American Sign Language

Eminem's Lose Yourself in American Sign Language

JustSaying says...

Just because you have to rely on sign language doesn't mean you can't hear any sound at all.
Also, sound is essentialy a form of vibration. Ever stood in front of the speakers at a Motorhead concert? You can feel the music, trust me.

What interests me: at the beginning of the video, before Eminem starts rapping, does she sign something like 'piano music, piano music, piano music'?

ChaosEngine said:

So, devils advocate: what is the point of signing music? Presumably the majority of people this is aimed at are deaf, and can't hear the melody. Ok, you can get the lyrics and the rhythm, but that's not really the music is it?

nock (Member Profile)

Eminem's Lose Yourself in American Sign Language

Eminem's Lose Yourself in American Sign Language

Marilyn Manson Interpreted in Sign Language

Sign-Language Interpreter Steals The Show

poolcleaner says...

Ah, man, that'd be cool if the artists themselves did awesome, meaningful sign language dances. There's gotta be a singer that learns sign language so they can ride that viral dream wave. Bjork could do it and it'd probably look totally just like her normal erratic movement.



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