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America's Science Decline - Neil deGrasse Tyson

kceaton1 says...

The point is, is that the United States is slowly outsourceing or altogether canceling science related projects. There're just too expensive and to be blunt the average citizen isn't smart enough to realize the benefits we can gain just from a land based telescope. People are lucky if they know what a molecule is.

A good example is research being done into fusion. If the U.S. dropped a lot of money into the already functioning program in Europe we could get the next prototype plant up by 2016-2020. Right now we are providing just an extremely small amount of money on this project, while Europe continues to do it alone. But, it will take much longer without our help. We won't see functioning reactors (which is the solution to our energy demands) until 2060 or thereabouts at this pace.

If the U.S. took a lead role you could see that number go down to 2030, maybe sooner depending on what resources we make available to help. BTW, this is a guaranteed solution, it will work, they know this already. Obama asked for a project that would help America and it's citizens as well as something that would eventually bring work here--this was a huge blunder to me, not to automatically support FUSION especially when all the necessary science has been done. All that is left is building the prototype to fine tune the energy distribution and then designing the first core design for a modern Fusion station.

Things like that let me know that we really don't care about science that much anymore. There are a lot of great people out there, but there simply just could be more. It has everything to do with what scholarship programs we make available, the way we teach and what we teach with, tuition continues to hike up, science is demonized by those that don't understand it--and they in turn affect their children's schooling, the government continues to decrease money to scientific programs across the board--like NASA, and the most damning part is that our politicians decrease education funding as well.

Quality over quantity is a ridiculous argument, it's a political talking point--nothing else. We are losing our focus. I've yet to hear a scientist (and not some Creationist linked bunk crap) ever use that statement, they know we are going down hill.

/A little long, but damnit, I'm passionate about science. It's been the one thing that has constantly picked us up out of the rut.

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TheGenk says...

Not THAT look sweet!
Introversion really does make great games, few but you know, quality over quantity.
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Average Votes Per Video (Sift Talk Post)

reiwan says...

Ahhhh! I deny everything!!! oh, wait... =P

I've always thought it would be great feature to be able to sort like that as well. I'm a big fan of quality over quantity. So I try to find really good stuff to bring to the sift.

The highest ratio I've found is this guy. But it is a result of an insanely popular video combined with only submitting 3 videos. For a sorting mechanism like this to be useful, there would need to be some way to take into account the number of videos posted by the user vs. their ratio to really get a sense of the quality they sift. I hope I'm making sense =)

oh and im up to 56.36 now *stabby stabby*

gwiz665 (Member Profile)

Personal queues and dupes (Terrible Talk Post)

gwiz665 says...

>> ^mauz15:
>> ^gwiz665:
^no. If it doesn't show up as a duplicate in the "validate embed" or the duplicate screen, then I don't go on wild chases after a potential duplicate.

Listen to yourself. There is nothing more frequent here than sensationalistic titles and pointless tags made to grab attention. To rely only on the possible duplicates that the submit process gives you is meaningless most of the time. On the other hand It takes 5 seconds to put 2 or 3 keywords and hit search. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't but the search is there for a reason.


The reason for the search is not to exhaust every eventuality that there may be a duplicate of something your about to sift; the search is there to help you find videos that you want to watch. If the search had been made a required or even recommended step in sifting a video it would be used for this more, but as it is now, it's a terrible idea to require users to go through all the added complexity of making external searches for a given video. If this is indeed a required step, then it should be added to the sifting process.


>> It's actually a shame that videos are allowed to stay in the PQ, because that particular video, for instance, would have gotten one vote from me and then stay there with 5 votes instead. Personal queue is a bad system. Make it a private q, so we have easy reference for sifting again later, instead of this sheit.
This is not a problem if you think of the sift as a collective effort to filter and expose videos worth watching. If you find a video you wanted to post in a pqueue and are so eager to share it, then a promote will not hurt. On the other hand, if you keep worrying about who got more votes, when, or what, etc. Then you are making yourself miserable over something that is not that big of a deal.
And even if we differ in how we see things and perhaps you have a point that I missed, I still don't think what you are proposing is a good way to go.


I don't just see it as a collected effort to filter and expose videos, I see it as much as a game, where users are rewarded for their effort and ability to sift a video. The filtering is a side-effect to the game, which results in that. A promote costs a power point, sifting does not. One argument is the greed factor, another is that I may not have that power point available and I may not even want to use a promote on a poorly framed video. There is some reason the video is not sifted yet and "just" in the PQ, that doesn't necessarily go away with a promote.


>>It seems wrong to me that a video can be "rotting" in the personal queue with a few votes and be considered the "original" when someone else sifts a video. It annoys me to now end when people have several hundred videos in their pq, which essentially prevent anyone else from putting an effort in to sifting those videos.
Then how else would you define 'original' if you feel it is wrong to label it as such if the video has been posted for the first time? How would any other definition of original be logical?


In my mind the only logical "original sift" is the one that get sifted first, not the one that is queued first. If it has made its way through the sifting process, I would have no problem handing over any votes. I mean, I could for instance queue all south park videos from their original site, just named as integer numbers - these would probably not get any votes, but when at some point if someone else decides to sift it, and makes an effort with his tags, title and so on, I could later swoop in and say, "ha ha, mine now". That is a Bad Thing(tm).

>>I would like to see a change in the personal queue system. Either completely removed or perhaps changed to only keep videos with over 5 votes. This would dramatically clear out many videos that are just languishing in peoples PQs.
Alternatively, we could change it so that videos in a PQ counted as discarded in regard to dupes.

Way to think about the rest of the users. You may have success with your posts so that they rarely need another push, but for others, myself included, the pqueue is something we rely on frequently. If the pqueue did not exist, I would have had 10 posted videos at the most, over the past couple of months. Going that way will shift more the already significant inbalance of popular, quick entertainment, short videos VS rare, long videos.
If you think the pqueue system is wrong, there has to be another option besides completely removing it.

Alright, I would like to see a maximum number of videos in a PQ (~50) and a time limit (a month). If a sift can't gather votes enough votes over a month, something has been done poorly, either the video itself - which some obscure videos would sadly fall under more often - or in the tags, title or comment. Then the sifter should just accept the defeat and let it go. The user can always try to sift it again at some point, perhaps with a change in the title and or tag.

I am actually thinking of other users with this proposal, because new users cannot make new posts when so many great videos are being dicked around in netrunners PQ (or someone elses).


Just a question, what are you here for: to share content, or to compete for votes? is it that hard to give up a post because it was a dupe? does it really matter that much if at the end, the video you wanted to share with us made it to the front anyways? if it is an old published video, is it hard to promote it so that it goes to the first page again? if you find a video you wanted to post here in a pqueue, does it take too much effort to ask someone or promote it yourself so that it gets another chance?
I simply don't understand why you want to go to such lengths over a dupe.


I am here for both! The vote / star point competition and sharing awesome stuff! Like I said, a promote does not fix a crappy sift. Some times I do just promote instead when I find something I wanted to sift already sifted. But it annoys me to death, when I find something that I know can do really good, and deserves to be sifted, rotting in a pq with 2 votes.


I think the personal queue system is basically a good idea, but the way it is now is detrimental to sifters. Either there should be a limited time frame for a sift to live in a PQ or a maximum video count, or preferably both. I would also like to see a minimum number of votes for a video to go to the PQ, because a video that gets 1,2,3 votes has something wrong with it and should lock out the video for other users.

Heh, if people can't figure out to sift well, then they will learn or not sift much. That is the natural evolution of the game. Some things are harder to sift than other - as the talks channel owner, I know this well - but the way the sift works now, you don't sift from your personal queue, you sift from your queue, the frontpage, and all the absolutely simplest ways of getting to a video. Search is not one of those. Hell, most of the times I have to use google to find a dupe, because people can't figure out to tag or title well.

When a video is in a PQ it is essentially stifling any chance of it being sifted "well". Some times videos come racing out of the PQ and that awesome, but most of the times they don't.

I want sifting to be about sifting well, not sifting much. Quality over quantity.

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nibiyabi (Member Profile)

JAPR says...

Haha, awesome. Way to go with that Sonic sift, btw. I'm so psyched for Brawl.

In reply to this comment by nibiyabi:
I decided to throw caution to the wind -- unsifted videos aren't so bad after all. How's my star look?

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Legitimate excuses. I guess we'll let you get by with quality over quantity.

In reply to this comment by nibiyabi:
It's a rather unfortunate combination of a lack of free time and a fear of submitting a poorly-received video.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Your sift rate is depressingly low when you look at the average quality of your submissions.

JAPR (Member Profile)

nibiyabi says...

I decided to throw caution to the wind -- unsifted videos aren't so bad after all. How's my star look?

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Legitimate excuses. I guess we'll let you get by with quality over quantity.

In reply to this comment by nibiyabi:
It's a rather unfortunate combination of a lack of free time and a fear of submitting a poorly-received video.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Your sift rate is depressingly low when you look at the average quality of your submissions.

nibiyabi (Member Profile)

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Woland says...

LOL, good point. But aren't you rewarding those sorts of clips / sifters by focusing mainly on quantity? And aren't you encouraging "cliques" by rewarding the same 10-20 people who vote for every episode of Colbert, Daily Show, Family Guy, etc.? There will be hundreds of Colbert / Family Guy clips (considering they're daily / weekly shows) and they'll always get 10-20 votes, no?

How about something like counting a sift's "Times Favorited" but only allowing a certain number of times a member can favorite sifts each day?

Is it safe to say the community will be enriched by more 'good' quality (25+ votes) sifts, but could suffer from simply more of the same 'mediocre' clips over and over?

Just wondering if there are any plans for a "quality over quantity" measure in the future.

Thanks.



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