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the mystery of DMT and psilocybin

shagen454 says...

It is a permanent transformation; people are frightened by this because they just don't have a clue (of how awesome it is)- and neither did you before you experienced what that meant lol

Terence Mckenna (rip) is still the best psilocybin/DMT/philosophy/pharmacology guru/poet/lecturer in my opinion.

How LSD and Shrooms could help w/ Mental Health disorders

shagen454 says...

I've never really found LSD that useful in any way to be honest. Shrooms (psilocybin) are a form of DMT (4-HO-DMT). For both experience and medical reasons, DMT or ayahuasca & Iboga are the two that are the most promising. Both ayahuasca & iboga have been used to overcome addictions and mental disorders and the experiences they contain are nearly in a whole other ballpark from all other types of "drugs". It'll probably take another 50 years for the establishments to admit to their health benefits or that they should be studying how they interact with the brain. Anyone who has experienced them knows it's going to take science a long fucking time into the future to only sort of understand.

Your Brain On Shrooms

Guidenlight says...

Mushrooms are a DEEPLY SPIRITUAL substance and when consumed in the PROPER ENVIRONMENT can do wonders for the evolution of the brain physically, as well as the mind, body, and soul metaphysically. They aid in functions of thought, how we perceive the world around us, and provide a deeper level of understanding then we are accustomed to. These realizations can be overwhelming, but when these realizations are accompanied with friends who keep you safe, a trusted guide, and a comfortable environment, the effects are harmonious and enlightening.

P.S. bad trips are just lessons for you to learn. a lot of it has to do with how we perceive control. a realistic measurement of psilocybin mushrooms for beginners would be more like 1.5-3.5Gs.
I personally consume 3.5g but I'm experienced, and again the potency must be understood... Safe journeys ~ Guidenlight

A Guide to Growing Magic Mushrooms

Boise_Lib says...

The mycelium contains psilocybin so the step of growing the fruiting bodies (mushrooms) can be skipped. Psilocybin is water soluble--so the mycelium can be soaked and the solutions filtered and dried.

Bill Maher ~ New Rules (October 29th 2011)

kceaton1 says...

Psychedelics (Psychotropics; and their main "term" in the next sentence) are definitely interesting mind wise. As I have in my own profile, Psychoactive drugs are indeed ALL very interesting.

This can include something as mundane as Codeine all the way up to LSD. Quick Message: Cocaine and Heroine are the same "type" of drugs technically: i.e. changed perception, mood alteration, etc... But, these ARE very dangerous to play with, versus the reward you receive: the reward here being an expanded mind that has the ability to understand any information from the remembered mental states that are achieved at the height of the drugs half-life in the body. Typically, specifically with shrooms or Psilocybin, it will create a calm-well being, and positive affirmation after affect that will even defeat depression in certain cases. This has been researched in atleast two studies that I've seen, Bill also talks of yet another--yet, he didn't mention that there is a 1% chance, and it may actually be lower than that now with further testing, that a "bad trip" will occur causing the reverse, but luckily not lasting in a long-term manifestation like the "good-trips".

There are generally two ways your going to enlighten yourself. Drugs like Marijuana will give a "high". Hopefully, with a mental state induced called: euphoria. The euphoric effect will allow you to feel very much "mood-stabilized". If you were depressed euphoria can completely reverse it, which can cause problems as it may cause you to become "psychologically addicted" to it due too it's affect; especially if depressed and more-so if you have an addictive personality trait in your genes (if this were Cocaine it would most likely always lead to a downward spiral and death). This is how many people lose the addiction game with bad drugs like Cocaine and Heroine, or even the Codeine you're doctor prescribes you. Anyway, the Euphoria allows many people to reach a level of peace and comfort that they can't otherwise. The sheer change in the organization of how you synapses fire to give you perceptual information, memories, and your own thoughts--have changed from your normal state. You literally think different. But, when you start to think about what you're working on, the same ideas no longer come back as they did just before you started to use: they come back changed. This is where change happens, it's where inspiration can come from.

For drugs like acid it becomes even easier to understand why you may think much greater things. Once the drug works it starts linking many of your perceptual areas, with your thoughts together into one giant drawing board. Sometimes, most of the time your subconscious mind, specifically your dream center starts to play with you using random memory sequences or perceptual information. Then when it fully takes hold you leave Earth as you've known it, while the drug is in full affect (this is why usually friends get others to watch over them, lest you do something incredibly bad--this is also why you really shouldn't play with the scarier drugs). It's very easy to see where these great ideas come from now, as now you are walking in a dream that is semi-controlled and mostly not. It begins to add random merging patterns, what the overall goal of the mind is at this point most likely is just to link all the information together; like a new song with a DJ. But, the experience is a lot like a journey, sometimes without prodding you will literally walk into a room with the "treasure chest", or the game changing idea that you need.

What you truly get in the end is the ability to realize that the human body is grand, with the brain a magnificent structure, designed in simplicity, but able to grow to see past that simplicity, that structure, those people that never went and looked, and you see the men that can stand on the shoulders of giants. Those that push the envelope.

If it was me go for shrooms, acid, and marijuana. But, read up on each and every one first so you know what to expect and NOT what to do to jeopardize your life; lastly, this is ILLEGAL...). All of these type of drugs are able to create a very unique experience while active on your active brain. Hopefully, like may others in history you can act like a Psychoactive compound on our collective psyche, as many have before.

/long but hopefully informative
//they're still Illegal...
///edited for grammar

Bill Maher ~ New Rules (October 29th 2011)

shagen454 says...

Always glad to hear positive comments about psychedelics in the media. I definitely know that mushrooms made a positive impact on my life. But, I definitely wouldnt push acid around lightly. Its certainly magical but I have my reservations about that drug. Although, nothing has been proven I think acid does have minute but negative long term side effects and plus its more visual which is awesome but doesnt have the same sort of introspection psilocybin has... in my opinion. Of course it is different for everyone and with acid, the dose is a major factor. Everytime I took acid I had to 'recover' the next day.

Oh and psychedelics probably shouldnt be used by kids, but I dunno since I only smoked pot when I was a kid.

Joe Rogan Explains the Stoned Monkey Hypothesis

rottenseed says...

On the first article...maybe shrooms gives us an insight into what it's like to experience dying? I hope not, my shroom trips are always scary >> ^Fusionaut:

Psilocybin actually decreases blood flow and connections in the brain rather than stimulates. Can a decrease in blood flow cause the brain to increase over time? http://boingboing.net/2011/04/15/shrooms-limit-brain.html
Also, the human brain has actually been decreasing over the last 30,000 years yet we are still becoming smarter: http://news.discovery.com/human/shrinking-brains-intelligence-110207.
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From what I've read of Terrence McKenna on wikipedia it seems that his theory is based more on speculation and spirituality than science.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_McKenna
I totally would have believed this theory without researching until he started talking about aliens. Whenever aliens get involved in a theory of our evolution it sets off my bullshit detector.

Joe Rogan Explains the Stoned Monkey Hypothesis

Fusionaut says...

Psilocybin actually decreases blood flow and connections in the brain rather than stimulates. Can a decrease in blood flow cause the brain to increase over time? http://boingboing.net/2011/04/15/shrooms-limit-brain.html

Also, the human brain has actually been decreasing over the last 30,000 years yet we are still becoming smarter: http://news.discovery.com/human/shrinking-brains-intelligence-110207.html

From what I've read of Terrence McKenna on wikipedia it seems that his theory is based more on speculation and spirituality than science.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_McKenna

I totally would have believed this theory without researching until he started talking about aliens. Whenever aliens get involved in a theory of our evolution it sets off my bullshit detector.

Terence Mckenna ~ The Stoned Ape Theory

Trancecoach says...

As much as I love listening to Terence wax poetic on the tributes of heroic doses of psilocybin, I agree that there is not much of a scientific basis behind his stoned ape theory.

A better understanding of the origins of language are to be found in Adam's Tongue.

>> ^acidSpine:

Seems like a LeMarkian view of evolution. I dig the idea but I don't think it has much scientific validity

Amazing video clip about THC and PTSD

curiousity says...

A great organization:

MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies)
MMAPS' mission is 1) to treat conditions for which conventional medicines provide limited relief—such as posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), pain, drug dependence, anxiety and depression associated with end-of-life issues—by developing psychedelics and marijuana into prescription medicines; 2) to treat many thousands of people by building a network of clinics where treatments can be provided; and 3) to educate the public honestly about the risks and benefits of psychedelics and marijuana.

MDMA for PTSD
MAPS’ top priority project is funding clinical trials of methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) as a therapeutic tool to assist psychotherapy for the treatment of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and other illnesses. Preliminary studies have shown that MDMA in conjunction with psychotherapy can help people overcome PTSD. MDMA has empathogenic effects, and it is also known as the popular drug Ecstasy (although "Ecstasy" does not always contain pure MDMA). In laboratory studies, MDMA has been proven sufficiently safe for human consumption when taken a limited number of times in moderate doses.

LSD/Psilocybin for Anxiety Related to Life-threatening Illness
LSD is short for d-lysergic acid diethylamide, and was discovered to be a psychedelic substance by Dr. Albert Hofmann on April 19, 1943. Psilocybin is a psychedelic compound also discovered by Hofmann which are found in psychedelic mushrooms. These mushrooms have been used for thousands of years by a variety of indigenous cultures for a variety of religious and therapeutic purposes. Both of these substances are well known for eliciting personal growth and mystical experiences in people who use them wisely. MAPS is interested in these substances for their potential to help people with a variety of conditions. Currently we are focused on developing these drugs into prescription medicines to treat anxiety associated with life-threatening illnesses.

Though there has been substantial prior research with LSD in cancer patients that demonstrated safety and some degree of efficacy, that research was conducted over 35 years ago. In order to generate data that will be accepted by today’s regulatory agencies, new protocols must meet modern drug development standards. Our research has had to start from scratch and has been designed carefully. Our LSD and psilocybin studies will be used to guide the development of future treatment approaches.

Alcohol causes more harm than heroin

Bloocut says...

^^Yeah, they were listening but they have to tow the party line which supports the fascist dichotomy-You simply can't tout the dangers of one over the other when one is a state-sanctioned "legal" substance which generates huge revenues and the other, a state-sanctioned "illegal" substance which ALSO generates huge revenues.
Heroin generates more $$$ than alcohol for those who traffic it (i.e. gangsters/governments, these two terms being interchangeable) while the last legal drug creates huge daily revenue for other gangsters such as the Medical Industrial Complex, insurance companies, and thousands of municipalities and precincts.
Oh and YES DUMBASS!! If your granny used a bit of Heroin everyday using as much moderation as she had her wine, she'd be fine!

You'll notice as well, from the handy list the BBC provided on the subject (http://consumerist.com/drugchart2.jpg), that psilocybin is the least harmful, and incidentally, the most beneficial and transformative.

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Prince of Pot Becomes Martyr

videosiftbannedme says...

What I don't understand is why is selling seeds an offense? You can easily buy magic mushroom spores online, because the spores contain a little or no traces of psilocybin. Wouldn't marijuana seeds fall into this category? There can't be any real amount of THC or other cannabinoids in the seeds. And I have yet to find ANY pot smoker who smokes seeds intentionally.

Ingesting Magic Mushrooms has Long Lasting Positive Effects!

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