If you get around to watching it, lemme know what'cha think. You may get a kick out of Jullianne Moore's role.

Sam Rockwell is the shit! Anyone that plays Zaphod Beeblebrox is cool in my book. Though my favorite role of his has gotta be Chuck Barris in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind -- Love that movie sooo much. Which brings to mind a genius writer (Charlie Kaufman) and an actor/director who is both over and underrated: George Clooney. I love half of his work (inevitably the underrated stuff) and the other half I could do without.

Diane Keaton, Nicholas Cage, Meg Ryan, Tom Hanks, etc. etc. Don't do it for me either. Though Cage Occasionally gets it right. (Or maybe it's the writers.) Mel, Mel, Mel -- what scares me about him is that his true personality may be Martin Riggs, but with a touch of the religious zealot. Definitely not a good combination. I would be careful not to harm his dog.

Favorite actors... Oh my, where to begin. So many decades of cinema to recall! To avoid a carbon copy of your list -- all noteworthy thesbians -- I'll fill in some of the missing pieces: The Marx Brothers (I love them all equally), Hepburn's flame, Spencer Tracy, the other Hepburn, Audrey (mostly because of those eyes), Cary Grant, Humprey Bogart (Casablanca and The Maltese Falcon are films that I can watch from any point and be satisfied completely for every second the films goes by), Lauren Bacall (Ze Big Sleep; dear lordy, more top ten material), Clark Gable, Gary Oldman (You said it, but he's too good and far too underappreciated to not mention), Helena Bonham Carter (another one I CANNOT avoid mentioning -- a dark favorite of mine: Morgan le Fay, Elizabeth Frankenstein, Ophelia, Anne Boleyn -- dear GOD, she's a even a freakin' death eater. She has to be a reader.), Elliot Gould (More noir favorites), Michael Gambon (brilliant), Alan Rickman, Edward Norton, Tim Roth, Brad Pitt, lil' Dakota Fanning, Kyle MacLachlan, Isabella Rossellini, and Dennis Hopper -- I think that's the cast of Blue Velvet, another potential top ten movie with top ten actors lol. Maybe we should make lists of the people we DON'T like... on second thought... (Sorry, this got long.)

Yes! Mothersbaugh, of course. Wes Anderson's pocket composer and devolution advocate. Don't forget Sigur Ros, either. That's the part of the movie where yer supposed to cry. I heart those Icelanders. A Bowie fan too. David Bowie is my best friend's father.

Make up a top 5 real quick. (No pressure.)

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You're right. I have about 15 or so that are floating around in my favorites list. My top movies are not neccesarily the best ones I've seen. Like you said, they are the ones that I have an emotional connection to.

Wes Anderson is awesome but I haven't seen all of his films yet. My favorite so far is also The Life Aquatic. I love those covers. The Mark Mothersbaugh numbers are awesome, too. The scene where Steve introduces his boat and crew, accompanied by Mothersbaugh's "Let Me Tell You About My Boat" is one of my favorite scenes. I also really liked The Royal Tenenbaums.

Oh, underappreciated and overrated actors. It is relatively easy for me to rattle off some of my favorite actors. Paul Newman, Marlon Brando, and Ingrid Bergman are definitely in the top 5. Other actors I love off of the top of my head: Gary Oldman, Anjelica Huston, Gregory Peck, Katharine Hepburn, Bruce Willis (most people love him for the wrong reasons), Bill Murray, Charlie Chaplin, Helena Bonham Carter (I love how much her older stuff contrasts with her more recent roles. She's great.), John Goodman (I have always had a thing for this guy. He is a pleasure to watch.), James Stewart, Topol (I've only seen him in Fiddler but it is one of my favorite performances EVAR), Henry Fonda, Peter Sellers, George C. Scott, Oliver Reed. This list was about 5 times as long before I cut it down. You're welcome.

I'm sure you're the same way that I am with actors. Sometimes I love them because they are truly great actors and sometimes I love them because they are good actors and you just enjoy watching them for whatever reason. I admit that one of the reasons that I love Newman, Brando, and Bergman is because they are all incredibly sexy. They also happen to be exceptional actors. Who are your favorites?

Severely overrated: Meg Ryan, Diane Keaton (used to be okay, now I can't stand her), Nicolas Cage (liked him in Matchstick Men...which reminds me that I love Sam Rockwell), Keira Knightly, and there is something about Mel Gibson's acting that seems...is it insincere? Affected? All I know is that something is off with him and I'm not a fan.

I'll rent The Big Lebowski one of these days.

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You're right. I have about 15 or so that are floating around in my favorites list. My top movies are not neccesarily the best ones I've seen. Like you said, they are the ones that I have an emotional connection to.

Wes Anderson is awesome but I haven't seen all of his films yet. My favorite so far is also The Life Aquatic. I love those covers. The Mark Mothersbaugh numbers are awesome, too. The scene where Steve introduces his boat and crew, accompanied by Mothersbaugh's "Let Me Tell You About My Boat" is one of my favorite scenes. I also really liked The Royal Tenenbaums.

Oh, underappreciated and overrated actors. It is relatively easy for me to rattle off some of my favorite actors. Paul Newman, Marlon Brando, and Ingrid Bergman are definitely in the top 5. Other actors I love off of the top of my head: Gary Oldman, Anjelica Huston, Gregory Peck, Katharine Hepburn, Bruce Willis (most people love him for the wrong reasons), Bill Murray, Charlie Chaplin, Helena Bonham Carter (I love how much her older stuff contrasts with her more recent roles. She's great.), John Goodman (I have always had a thing for this guy. He is a pleasure to watch.), James Stewart, Topol (I've only seen him in Fiddler but it is one of my favorite performances EVAR), Henry Fonda, Peter Sellers, George C. Scott, Oliver Reed. This list was about 5 times as long before I cut it down. You're welcome.

I'm sure you're the same way that I am with actors. Sometimes I love them because they are truly great actors and sometimes I love them because they are good actors and you just enjoy watching them for whatever reason. I admit that one of the reasons that I love Newman, Brando, and Bergman is because they are all incredibly sexy. They also happen to be exceptional actors. Who are your favorites?

Severely overrated: Meg Ryan, Diane Keaton (used to be okay, now I can't stand her), Nicolas Cage (liked him in Matchstick Men...which reminds me that I love Sam Rockwell), Keira Knightly, and there is something about Mel Gibson's acting that seems...is it insincere? Affected? All I know is that something is off with him and I'm not a fan.

I'll rent The Big Lebowski one of these days.

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You probably already know your top movies, you just haven't declared so boldly what they are. Like I said though, most of my tops are in contention, I just happen to have an emotional connection to two films which may always reign supreme.

If there's anyone to be jealous of it's Wes Anderson and his siblings. Must be awesome to make films with your family and best friends. Loved and own every one of their movies. I think Life Aquatic is my favorite... yeah, definitely Steve Zissou. I mean, you can't go wrong: a movie starring Bill Murray, filled with brilliant sets and costumes, and a soundtrack comprised of David Bowie cover songs by Seu Jorge? Is it wrong that I'm salivating right now? I also really enjoyed Darjeeling Unlimited, despite it's lack of closure. I was hoping Murray would tie in at some point.

As far as people and their movie tastes... You didn't feel the gripping suspense of Armageddon?! Didn't it make you weep when -- I honestly, cannot remember a thing about that piece of trash, except Liv Tyler. (Typical.) I have a friend who once told me The Marine was his favorite film of all time. It was really obnoxious because he was interrupting my first viewing of The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover; kept complaining that he needed an explosive hook.

Now, Big Lebowski... is one of those movies you either love or hate. I've only known people who are one or the other. Probably due to over 200 f-bombs. If you can get over that, you'll realize it's a brilliant homage to Philip Marlowe and old screwball comedy. (And the soundtrack is amazing.)

(I completely agree about Goodman. Thank god for the Cohen Brothers. At least they recognize talent and put him in most of their films.)

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I'm glad one of the action stars from the late 80's/early 90's didn't end up going crazy *ahem* Mel Gibson *ahem*

"Turn off your phone when the movie's on!" ..or someone will play out their needlessly violent supermacho movie star fantasy all over your face!
The guy with the phone says it perfectly; since when did David Duchovny start playing Mel Gibson roles?

>> ^spoco2:
We really need to stop these people that are born in other countries telling the world they're not really Australian.
If we can't claim Russel Crowe, Nicole Cruise, Sam Neil, Hugo Weaving, Mel Gibson (although, not so much wanted any more) and so on and so on... who can we claim as our own any more?
Damn you all, stop letting the cat out of the bag!


You can't even claim Yahtzee.

We really need to stop these people that are born in other countries telling the world they're not really Australian.

If we can't claim Russel Crowe, Nicole Cruise, Sam Neil, Hugo Weaving, Mel Gibson (although, not so much wanted any more) and so on and so on... who can we claim as our own any more?

Damn you all, stop letting the cat out of the bag!

I thought the whole point of Jesus and all that bloody Mel Gibson Movie stuff was to remove the necessity of The Old Law - to allow individuals to have a personal relationship with god.


The 10 commandments is primarily a post-biblical politico-religious invention.

There is no part in the bible that lists them the way most people know them.
Deuteronomy 5 is the closest that most catholics and prodestants know, except in a much more long winded format. It forbids making any image of any thing. Photos, sculptures, paintings, etc. are all forbidden. It also says, in verse 9

" Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me"

---- gee, sounds fair, huh?





Exodous 20 is a rehashing, with some subtle differences.


The Actual tablets that Moses brings down from the mountain are VASTLY different than what most people know as "the 10 commandments".

Exodous 34
1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.
[...]
11 Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.
12 Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:
13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:
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14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;
16 And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.
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17 Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.
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18 The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.
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19 All that openeth the matrix is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male.
20 But the firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou redeem him not, then shalt thou break his neck. All the firstborn of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty.
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21 Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.
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22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.
23 Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren appear before the LORD God, the God of Israel.
24 For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before the LORD thy God thrice in the year.
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25 Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven; neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left unto the morning.
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26 The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God.
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Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.
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27 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.
28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

'Tornado vs. Overpass - the Battle Rages On!'


I'm writing the screenplay. It stars Samuel L. Jackson, and Mel Gibson.

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Fletch posts 6 vids in this playlist: "Islam - Died in the Queue" after the conversation with Gwaan in this video:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Children-in-militant-Kindergarten-Ceremony
which was posted a full day before this thread began.

But the point I saw was that all these videos made it through the queue:

http://www.videosift.com/video/Crazy-super-fundie-christian-freak-on-Trading-Spouses
http://www.videosift.com/video/Kirk-Cameron-The-Evolution-Zone
http://www.videosift.com/video/Sam-Harris-lectures-on-the-dangers-of-both-religious-fundamentalism-and-religious-moderation
http://www.videosift.com/video/Crazy-American-Fundamentalist-Christian
http://www.videosift.com/video/Dispatches-The-New-Fundamentalists-on-Channel-4
http://www.videosift.com/video/Doin-Nails-for-Jesus--from-Jesus-Camp
http://www.videosift.com/video/God-Hates-Fags
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Secret-Life-Of-Brian-Monty-Pythonreligion-documentary
http://www.videosift.com/video/Alan-Moore-discusses-religion-with-Stewart-Lee
http://www.videosift.com/video/Louis-Thereuxs-Weird-Weekend-Televangelists-next-5-inside
http://www.videosift.com/video/Richard-Dawkins-BBC-Interview
http://www.videosift.com/video/Gods-Next-Army-evangelicalpolitical-documentary-212
http://www.videosift.com/video/Christopher-Hitches-on-the-Death-of-Jerry-Falwell
http://www.videosift.com/video/Voltron-the-Transformers-are-the-work-of-Satan
http://www.videosift.com/video/Fundamentalism-vs-Evolution-The-Train-Crash
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Passion-of-Christ-2-Judgement-Day
http://www.videosift.com/video/UFO-Obsesed-Christians-Science-Public-Access-Television
http://www.videosift.com/video/Stephen-Lynch-Craig-Christ
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Atheist-P-Funk-is-Accosted-by-Christian-Evangelists
http://www.videosift.com/video/the-chapman-brothers-jump-rope-for-the-glory-of-god
http://www.videosift.com/video/Pope-has-never-read-Bible--Violence-Contrary-to-Gods-Nature
http://www.videosift.com/video/Jesus-Camp-on-Bill-Maher
http://www.videosift.com/video/Jesus-Heal-My-Masturbation-Genes-Story
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-God-Who-Wasnt-There-2005-documentary-film-1-hour
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Blasphemy-Challenge
http://www.videosift.com/video/QI-Christmas-Christianity-and-Mithras-Funny
http://www.videosift.com/video/Pulitzer-prize-winner-compares-US-Christian-Right-to-Fascism
http://www.videosift.com/video/Robert-Johnson-Expose-by-Christian-Group
http://www.videosift.com/video/Sign-of-the-Apocalypse-Christian-Comedy
http://www.videosift.com/video/Man-Says-Hes-Jesus-Followers-Get-666-Tattoos
http://www.videosift.com/video/Who-gives-you-candy-Jesus-or-Castroanti-commie-film-clip
http://www.videosift.com/video/Louis-Thereuxs-Weird-Weekend-Televangelists-next-5-inside
http://www.videosift.com/video/Kevin-Smith-about-Mel-Gibson
http://www.videosift.com/video/An-atheist-among-Christians-for-30-days
http://www.videosift.com/video/Chocolate-Jesus-Makes-Catholics-CRAZY
http://www.videosift.com/video/Jesus-Camp-controversial-2006-Evangelical-documentary
http://www.videosift.com/video/Stewart-Lee-Dont-get-me-started-
http://www.videosift.com/video/Ted-Haggard-Is-Completely-Heterosexual-by-Roy-Zimmerman
http://www.videosift.com/video/Mike-Daiseys-Christian-Audience-Protest-Walkout-and-Attack
http://www.videosift.com/video/God-is-not-Great-Stewart-interviews-Hitchens
http://www.videosift.com/video/Dr-Seuss-Bible
http://www.videosift.com/video/Kirk-Cameron-on-the-OReilly-Factor
http://www.videosift.com/video/School-Prayer-Debate-Turns-To-Hitler-Debate http://www.videosift.com/video/Doug-Stanhope-Why-I-dont-Believe
http://www.videosift.com/video/How-to-Witness-to-a-Homosexual
http://www.videosift.com/video/Self-Induced-Religious-Fit
http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Maher-interviews-Christoper-Hitchens
http://www.videosift.com/video/Submissive-Jesus
http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Mahers-New-Rules-Heaven-Can-Hate
http://www.videosift.com/video/United-States-of-Jesus
http://www.videosift.com/video/GodTube-how-to-deal-with-pr0n-on-the-intertubes
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Atheist-Delusion
http://www.videosift.com/video/Miracles-and-Morals
http://www.videosift.com/video/Life-and-Liberty-for-All-Who-Believe
http://www.videosift.com/video/Let-the-bodies-hit-the-floor-religious-smackdown
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Evangelical-War-On-Science

Mel Gibson had it right. Jesus was a badass.

Funny.

Jews and Brits are the two peoples that Mel Gibson exists to fight throughout all space and time.

Not actually very funny at all.

But then, neither was Mel Gibson...

You paid money to see a Mel Gibson film?

Really?

For a man who is a faithful Christian, Mel Gibson shocks me time and time again with his perverse love of gruesome violence, first in Braveheart (which was good), Passion of the Christ (not going to bother) to Apocalypto (ridiculous levels of violence, see jaguar ripping man's face off). Really not a movie for people who detest senseless violence.