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Emotional Wedding Haka

ChaosEngine says...

Ok, I was going to keep silent, because I am no way an expert on Maori culture, but this is just so full of bullshit.

1: There are obviously Maori people at that wedding... the bride for instance.
2: Women do perform haka, it's just traditionally different from mens haka, but even that is changing/
3: Pakeha can't perform Haka? Tell that to the All Blacks... just make sure your health insurance is paid up first.
4: There are no full-blood Maori's left.... oh fuck right off with that nonsense. There are no "full blood" anybody of any kind left. Doesn't make you any less Maori if that's your culture.

And Kapa Haka can be performed for all kinds of reasons. You can perform a haka to welcome someone to a marae for example.

fuzzywuzzywasabear said:

That was pathetic. Women: not Haka. White people: not Haka. (Not that there are any full-blood Maori's left, but for fuck's sake at least look like one.) Haka now seems to be some kind of novelty dance that anyone can do whenever they please. It is supposed to be terrifying; you are filling your enemies with the fear that that are about to be slaughtered and eaten. Why the fuck would anyone do it at a wedding?

Emotional Wedding Haka

fuzzywuzzywasabear says...

That was pathetic. Women: not Haka. White people: not Haka. (Not that there are any full-blood Maori's left, but for fuck's sake at least look like one.) Haka now seems to be some kind of novelty dance that anyone can do whenever they please. It is supposed to be terrifying; you are filling your enemies with the fear that that are about to be slaughtered and eaten. Why the fuck would anyone do it at a wedding?

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NaMeCaF says...

LOL. I dont know why I even bother.

First of all, I'm not even in the northern hemisphere (again, you're bubble) and have no love for Trump or white-supremacists. In fact I'm half Maori so I guess that makes you're whole argument moot.

I really fear for our future with all the closed minded, bubble living idiots like you coming out of the wood-work now.

Payback said:

Nah, I just think you're a closed-minded douche.

The comment I was replying to was about "racism" towards whites. Not sure where non-white on non-white racism comes into this. I just don't believe making fun of, or critisizing, or generalization of whites can be considered racism. We're on top. If someone marginalized by whites marginalizes someone else further down the oppression scale, that would certainly be racism.

As for the Nazi reference, I'm sure you're one of the good ones Trump told us were at Charlottesville.

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Baking Bread with Lava in Iceland

newtboy says...

When I was there last summer, I found out that this is a traditional way of baking in Iceland.
In NZ, they called the hot springs Maori microwaves. They would just throw in a whole pig to boil until done (according to the plaques).

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ChaosEngine says...

The Maori name for the North Island of NZ is Te Ika-a-Māui (the fish of Maui). Apparently the "fishing up island" bit was quite a hit in the pacific, 'cos he did it several times

How to respond to bigotry with tolerance and integrity.

ChaosEngine says...

In general, there's a pretty friendly rivalry between the two countries, mostly around sport (we beat them at rugby, they beat us at cricket).

But the countries are actually politically and culturally pretty close, and there's a real sense of comradeship in relation to shared military history (see ANZACs).

All that said, there are some genuine issues of contention, especially right now. The two countries both allow citizens of the other to live and work there. Given that Australia is the larger economy, this mostly means kiwis going to Aussie looking for work.

So there is a perception among some Australians that Kiwis are somehow both stealing their jobs and also lazy dole bludgers (hey, no one said bigots had to be internally consistent).

In fact, this is completely the opposite of reality. Australians who come to NZ are basically NZ citizens in all but name. They are entitled to unemplyoment benefit, whereas Kiwis in Australia do not have the same benefits.

There is also currently an issue around detention and deportation of Kiwis, where Kiwis in Australia (many of whom have lived most of their lives in Australia) who have been committed of crimes are being deported back to NZ after completing their sentences. This often means they are held in refugee-style detention centres while awaiting deportation and are being sent back to a country away from their families.

In this specific instance, I'm guessing it's because the kid in the video is of Maori or Polynesian descent.

Disclaimer: I'm an Irish guy living in NZ who spent two years in Sydney, so this is a slightly outsider take.

Januari said:

Wait... so Australian's have a big problem with people from New Zealand?...

I was a little confused by this? Is this just her unique bigotry or is this a semi-common theme?

I sort of assumed she meant anyone not white.

Can Language Affect How You Spend Your Money?

ChaosEngine says...

And yet NZ speaks predominantly english and was the first to give women the vote. Granted, the personal pronoun in Te Reo (the Maori language) is gender neutral, but I don't think Maori language or culture was given much respect in 1893.

It's an interesting idea, but I'm skeptical.

My main issue is that the results will be skewed by english. English is a "futured" language and is the main language spoken in the US, UK, Australia, Canada and NZ (among others). All these countries have a common cultural root and tend to save less.

I would like to have seen more analysis broken down by culture and language. Ok, english speakers save less. got that. What about Germans or French (both "futured" languages)?

CreamK said:

Really interesting.. We, Finns, also have no he or she and we were amongst the very first to give voting rights to women...

Awesome Haka Face Off by Schoolkids

ChaosEngine says...

@tomspeed, yes and no. There are certain parts of Maori culture that have definitely been adopted, various Haka, some waiata (songs), pounamu (jade) carvings

But there's still a lot of racism and resentment toward Maori as well.

If you want to see an example, here's a story on one of the largest media sites in NZ about a local Maori tribe who had the audacity to charge a fee to have a commercial event run on their property. Read the comments.

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NZ passes gay marriage bill - gallery busts into Maori song

ChaosEngine says...

I'm not sure it was spontaneous.

At the very beginning of the video the Speaker of the House says "there will be a waiata (maori song) after the clerk has announced etc."

So, probably planned, but awesome nonetheless.

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