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If Rockets were Transparent

blacklotus90 says...

From the YT description:
Launch to orbit in real time Fuel Burn and Staging of the
1) Saturn V
2) Space Shuttle
3) Falcon Heavy
4) Space Launch System (SLS)
Launching from Kennedy Space Center Launch Complex 39

Red = Kerosene RP-1
Orange = Liquid Hydrogen LH2
Blue = Liquid Oxygen LOX

It's like Liquid Nitrogen - but Fire!

It's like Liquid Nitrogen - but Fire!

bremnet says...

No courage. Do liquid oxygen + methane (same method) and then we'll talk. P.s. 293 million tonnes of liquid methane (mostly) were produced in 2018, as LNG.

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SpaceX Lands Stage 1 on Land!

Ashenkase says...

As was mentioned above, the cost of the fuel is a non-starter. Currently SpaceX uses a Kerosene / Liquid Oxygen fuel mix.

After the anomaly (the space industries way of saying accident) in June SpaceX did a complete vehicle review. They are now using a more advanced technique to cool the LOX which means for a denser LOX liquid in their tanks, which ultimately means they have more oxidizer on board for their flights now.

Coupled with the LOX improvements they have made upgrades to the engines which means 30% greater efficiency. Basically the horsepower per engine has increased.

This means they can get their payloads to orbit plus have more then enough fuel left over in stage 1 to return it to land.

The greatest efficiency comes from returning the stage(s) and then reusing them in future launches (not proven yet). ALL launchers (u.s, soviet, indian, ESA, Japan, etc) ditch ALL of their hardware into the ocean when getting payload to orbit. Bye, bye multi million dollars worth of engines and hardware.

If SpaceX can turn that scenario on its head and reuse those stages and MORE importantly the engines they will cut their costs per launch by a substantial amount. Ultimately that means cheaper per pound cost to get material into orbit.

All of the media uses the word "explosion" when describing the June anomaly which is funny because there was never an ignition of onboard fuels.

The LOX tanks have smaller Helium tanks inside them. The helium is released during launch. The helium rises in the LOX quickly, expands and pressurizes the tank to ensure the LOX is "squeezed" into the pipes in order to keep up with the turbo pumps.

One of the struts holding a helium tank inside the LOX tank failed. The helium tank shot up and blew threw the top of the LOX tank and took a good part of the top of the stack off. The engines actually fired for a few seconds after the anomaly and then sputtered out. The rest of the vehicle at this point is still fairly intact.

Without proper structural integrity the vehicle started to veer off course, dynamic pressures built up and the vehicle was essentially ripped apart by those forces.

At 3:20 the Helium tank rips off its struts. At 3:27 the remainder of the vehicle disintegrates:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuNymhcTtSQ

SpaceX mentioned that in June, the dragon capsule continued to relay telemetry until it smacked into the ocean. If the Dragon had better software onboard it would have detected the anomaly and recovered with chutes. Elon said that software would be active on Dragons from now on.

VoodooV said:

Thanks for the responses, gang. I guess I'm just surprised that we're going this route since it seems so inefficient. Kinda like the skycrane for the curiosity rover seems so convoluted and so much could go wrong. Which reminds me, it amuses me that they refer to the earlier explosion as an "anomaly"

US Navy Satellite Launches Into Orbit

Periodic Videos - Liquid Oxygen - In Slow Motion

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Tags for this video have been changed from 'slowmo, high speed camera, liquid oxygen, elements' to 'slowmo, high speed camera, liquid oxygen, charcoal, elements' - edited by lucky760

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Liquid oxygen attracted by levitating Gold Magnetic spheres

BoneRemake says...

>> ^TheFreak:

Oh boy, God came up with some crazy stuff when he created the world in six days. Wonder what he could have meant by this.


Yea you know, it is kinda fucked up thing to witness now that you mention it. Two floating balls attracting a liquid upwards using forces unseen.

HAH !

Deltron 3030 - Things You Can Do

MrFisk says...

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Yo, Deltron thunderforce, ain't no other source of sunlight
Two ton mic, leave you toungue-tied
Runnin amuck with technology with no apology
Shoutin out to my colony with third eye physiology
Millennium past apocalypse is all I spit
Make you swallow it - your weak style, I'll abolish it
with nuclear rockets they glued to your optics with sci-fi
Unsettlin, man and metal blends
Underground chillin with the Mole Man, and his whole fam
Inhibit bacterial growth, material wrote
Impenetrable, incontestable, indigestible intelligence
Never let a computer tell me SHIT
It's rapid innovation, penetratin
Artificial life forms, who bite songs
I'm a buy a vest, lie is next, then I'll flip the bio-techs
Right into the wireless; your third eye is hit with psoriasis
The mightiest, Deltron Zero
Traverse and purge the travesties that tempt your earholds
The area of distribution, lifts the clueless
My flow is like, liquid oxygen
Rip it often with specific impulse, increasin thrust
Grease the cuts - unleash a cluster of thoughts I muster
I talk to touch ya, and rupture commercial communications
Convert solar energy, into imagery
In the mind's eye, blindside the contagious
With radioactive isotopes to decay them
Atomic mass they small as fragments
I magnetize the avid lies
My radiation shields reflects, rejects Decepticons
who take the truth and stretch it long, while I bless a song
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Flexability and my engine is never failing

All your rhyme histories combined couldn't violate
the Prime Optimus operative
Use my hydrometer to see how warm you are, watch me form a star
Hydrogen turned to helium when I shine
Ridin 'em revealin 'em leadin 'em to the vacuum
Interact with tunes in my digital citadel
Critical pivotal with the mental shit on you
Spit infinity, hiden energies too dope for our planet
Star spannin, slammin hymms with
mechanical limbs, scanning your lens
with cosmic rays, you'll all get played, your brain's inferior
I hit the lateral AND posterior
My science is eerier
Ionic bonding for your moronic pondering, meet the armorines
My micro machines, might throw your team, into paralysis
They not talented, just a malady
Worry 'bout a salary, creative casualty
Couldn't defrag my power density intensity
Nonequivalence, nine hundred Newtons
Crush you like croutons, you plus Houston
Hiero's like dipoles inside a silo
Turbulence ten-fold, never simple
Defies accepted methods development most unique
Paralyze central nervous when you close to me
Interstellar void fills with color, appears to bubble
and split into four like amoeba
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and coast like Silver Surfer, feel the purpoise
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Fire resistance, better hire assistants
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Inside your private quarters where I fry your components

NASA - Ice Crystals Forming on the Rim of a 5,000 degree

GeeSussFreeK says...

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I have googled it for you

From other sources

"The Common Extensible Cryogenic Engine, or CECE, is a deep-throttling engine, which means it has the flexibility to reduce thrust from 100 percent down to 10 percent -- allowing a spacecraft to gently land on the lunar surface. The 13,800-pound thrust engine uses extremely cold liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen as propellants."

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Rocket Flight - Module 1 Free Flight - Armadillo Aerospace

Thylan says...

I believe their current engine uses LOX (liquid oxygen) and 90% ethanol. They have tried multiple different engine configurations and fuels, so after the LLC is won, they may spend more time looking into some other options again. Atm, they want reliability and stability from what they have working. The LOX chamber on the module is the bottom one, the other being fuel. The white coating on that tank is there as insulation as the LOX is obviously very cold, and the engine is not... Being so cold, LOX can be used in a regeneratively cooled engine design, where the LOX acts as a coolant for the engines throat before entering the engine itself.

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Masten Space Systems' XA 0.1 VTOL Holddown Tests

mmealling says...

That is what we call XA 0.1. It can only hover for about 45 seconds when fully loaded with fuel. The fuel is liquid oxygen and isopropyl alcohol (i.e. 99% pure rubbing alcohol). This vehicle's purpose is to test plumbing, engines, gymbals and flight control systems before we scale up the airframe and tanks. This test is only showing one engine, though. Once it checks out we add the other three and then let it fly under a teather.

For those who were able to make it to the XPRIZE Cup Expo in Las Cruces this past October, this is the vehicle we had on display at our tent. This won't be our Lunar Lander Challenge entry since it is too heavy (by design).

The deflector you see burning through is made of three layers of laminated douglas fir 2x4s....

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