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Left Behind - Nicolas Cage Official Trailer #1 (2014)

RFlagg says...

...So the Kirk Cameron series based off the same books wasn't enough they had to remake it? What, because Tim LaHaye, one of the original authors of the books, didn't make enough off the original series? The studio decides to remake it so he can get a better cut?

Of course when the movie is panned for Cage's bad acting or anything else, the Christian right will just point out it is the "liberal media" trying to put down the Christian message and not be an actual review of the film's merits.

I'm surrounded daily by people who believe this stuff. Who believe the election of Obama is a sign of the end of times. When climate change gets to the point even they can't deny it anymore, they'll still deny it is human activity and chalk it up to more proof that we're in the end times and it's just like the Bible said. That this nation (somehow the US is special) is being judged for abortion and homosexuality, the last just like Sodom... of course if you point out that the Bible says that the specific sin of Sodom was being a land of plenty and doing nothing to help the needy and the poor, they just change subjects.

Evolution's shortcoming is Intelligent Design's Downfall

leebowman says...

I know, a cheap argumentative shot. I seldom cite others to prove a point, unless I first state facts, then give a link for collaboration.

I also apologize for jumping from an argument is support of the RLN to arguments in support of ID (par. 3 - 7), two related, but separate issues.

Regarding Kirk Cameron's banana fervor, I somewhat agree. I see design inferences where most others don't, including various synergistic relationships which are generally attributed to convergent evolution, but which I sometimes attribute to design, or in the case of change over time, re-design.

Most speciation events are simply naturally occurring adaptive alterations, to adapt to a changing environment. But more radical body-plan revisions, land mammal to aquatic cetacean for example, show signs of designer input, much of which could have been 'cut-and-try', rather than 'poof' style modifications. Thus, the uncovering of intermediates, and the lengthy time periods involved.

Evolution's shortcoming is Intelligent Design's Downfall

mentality says...

What you posted does nothing to refute the crapiness of the design. Why the recurrent laryngeal nerve give off branches to the cardiac plexus is very simple: The RL nerve is a branch of the Vagus nerve, which is THE source of parasympathetic innervation to the heart. The fact that some fibers may branch off of the Vagus early with the RL nerve and then rejoin the cardiac plexus further along is hardly uprising. That does NOT explain why the nerve fibers that innervates the larynx have to make an unnecessary loop downwards around the aorta.

If there WAS an intelligent designer, he could have easily made those nerve fibers innervating the the larynx split off the Vagus higher up, where the Vagus nerve PASSES BY RIGHT NEXT TO THE LARYNX.

Trying to refute this video by quoting Gray's Anatomy is either a sad misunderstanding of basic scientific concepts or just willful ignorance. Almost as bad as Kirk Cameron and the banana.

leebowman said:

They apparently didn't know that that nerve innervates the heart and other chest organs. From Gray's Anatomy:

"As the RL nerve curves around the subclavian artery or the arch of aorta, it gives several cardiac filaments to the deep part of the cardiac plexus. As it ascends in the neck it gives off branches, more numerous on the left than on the right side, to the mucous membrane and muscular coat of the oesophagus; branches to the mucous membrane and muscular fibers of the trachea and some filaments to the inferior constrictor."

And as the lady is separating the nerve from the chest area, she is actually cutting those nerve innervations. Oh, and one more thing. The long nerve does NOTHING to weaken the neck, or the animal itself, as is seen in the following video.
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CCOKC all up in Kirk Camerons ass

CCOKC - Child Celebrities Opposing Kirk Cameron

CCOKC all up in Kirk Camerons ass

Statism Is Dead ~ The Matrix As A Metaphor

kevingrr says...

I studied English and Philosophy in school and have continued reading a lot of utopian/dystopian literature since. My familiarity with economics and economic history pales in contrast, but the close relationship with subjects I am interested in has caused me to spend some time and consideration learning what I can.

That said, when I see a video like this I lump it into the same pseudo intellectual/science/news that things like Bill O'Reilly, TYT, Kirk Cameron, Creationists and bigots bring to mind.

Why did I watch this? Well I'm open to listening to legitimate and informative critiques of socioeconomic systems. If they are particularly good it can lead to all sorts of follow up questions and inquiries. I get bored while i'm "slaving" away at work so I put things on in the background...

Then there videos like this. There are very few facts throughout the entire video. The analogies used are misleading. The terrible acts and downfalls of groups, individuals, or particular ideologies are often blown out of proportion entirely. There is no nuanced investigation, no insights, nothing but a self satisfied narrator with droll delivery.

Thanks for rummaging through my videos for dead links. I'll pass on using my downvote on this video.

TYT - Two and a Half Men Star Finds God, Denounces Show

Actor from Two and a Half Men finds god, hates show

Why Evolution Is True - Explained in 20 minutes

CCOKC - Child Celebrities Opposing Kirk Cameron

Opus_Moderandi says...

Wow, you're smart. You must be a master debater. But you clearly have no sense of humor.>> ^my15minutes:

on the chance that your concern for my well-being was genuine,
let me first assure you i'm not the least bit angry, in general or at opus.
in the (more likely, imho) event that you were attempting to somehow
defend opus, my advice would be, don't. it presupposes that he is defenseless
or disadvantaged, when he is neither. he has just as much of a brain as i or anyone
else, and is just as capable of using it, before typing something regretfully absurd.
a little training in debate would do him great service, however.
this is equally true of you, if you were attempting to come to his aid,
as you managed to commit the same mistake - ad hominem.
you compounded the problem by begging the question.
the question in this case being, "is he angry?"
i see nothing in my text you replied to, that could be misunderstood
as an indicator that i was angry. my little smiley face there was authentic,
because his ad hom indicated that he realized he couldn't back up his previous assertion.
again, if your reply was genuine, then thanks for your unwarranted concern,
and i apologize for believing it unlikely.
in either case, i would humbly ask that any further replies on this matter,
from yourself or opus or anyone else, be directed to my homepage instead of this page,
as what we're discussing has absolutely nothing to do with a funny clip about gay rights.
thanks. - owen
>> ^sickio:
Wow, I'd find someone to talk out your anger issues with if I were you.
>> ^my15minutes:
oh, excellent! an ad hominem attack. thank you. blahblahblah.


CCOKC - Child Celebrities Opposing Kirk Cameron

my15minutes says...

on the chance that your concern for my well-being was genuine,
let me first assure you i'm not the least bit angry, in general or at opus.

in the (more likely, imho) event that you were attempting to somehow
defend opus, my advice would be, don't. it presupposes that he is defenseless
or disadvantaged, when he is neither. he has just as much of a brain as i or anyone
else, and is just as capable of using it, before typing something regretfully absurd.

a little training in debate would do him great service, however.
this is equally true of you, if you were attempting to come to his aid,
as you managed to commit the same mistake - ad hominem.

you compounded the problem by begging the question.
the question in this case being, "is he angry?"
i see nothing in my text you replied to, that could be misunderstood
as an indicator that i was angry. my little smiley face there was authentic,
because his ad hom indicated that he realized he couldn't back up his previous assertion.

again, if your reply was genuine, then thanks for your unwarranted concern,
and i apologize for believing it unlikely.

in either case, i would humbly ask that any further replies on this matter,
from yourself or opus or anyone else, be directed to my homepage instead of this page,
as what we're discussing has absolutely nothing to do with a funny clip about gay rights.
thanks. - owen
>> ^sickio:

Wow, I'd find someone to talk out your anger issues with if I were you.
>> ^my15minutes:
oh, excellent! an ad hominem attack. thank you. blahblahblah.

CCOKC - Child Celebrities Opposing Kirk Cameron

sickio says...

Wow, I'd find someone to talk out your anger issues with if I were you.

>> ^my15minutes:

oh, excellent! an ad hominem attack. thank you.
i take it this means you can't back up your moronic claim from earlier.
any hitler analogies you'd like to make now?
or just put down the shovel, and quietly climb out of the hole you're digging for yourself?>> ^Opus_Moderandi:
Somebody woke up on the asshole side of the bed....


CCOKC - Child Celebrities Opposing Kirk Cameron

my15minutes says...

oh, excellent! an ad hominem attack. thank you.
i take it this means you can't back up your moronic claim from earlier.

any hitler analogies you'd like to make now?
or just put down the shovel, and quietly climb out of the hole you're digging for yourself?>> ^Opus_Moderandi:

Somebody woke up on the asshole side of the bed....

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