What a disgusting piece of shit and outright liar.
Her achievements already outweigh his by miles...he's only managed to get himself kicked off Fox, impressively hard to do if you're right wing. Fox has apologized for his disgraceful ad hominem attacks against a child who he couldn't factually contradict....but Laura Ingram has also personally attacked her on her show, as has Trump on Twitter.

Being on the autism spectrum, she says she has aspergers, is a developmental disorder NOT a mental illness.
Being a pathological liar, that's a mental illness apparently now shared by an entire political party.
Being a fecal golem is a personality disorder he clearly has in spades.

The Carnegie Mellon study he sites said no such thing, and it's authors have stated that it's a total misrepresentation of their findings....repeatedly.
The study actually said certain produce at it's worst might be more ecologically harmful per calorie than some kinds of white meat eating by comparing things like bacon vs lettuce on a calorie to calorie instead of serving to serving rate, so 4 strips of bacon were compared to > 40 cups of lettuce. Get real.
To compound the confusion they chose a calorie poor produce like lettuce with high greenhouse gas emissions instead of kale, broccoli, rice, potatoes, spinach and wheat (just to name a few) which all rank lower than pork in terms of greenhouse gases.
The same argument holds for water usage...they chose lettuce, with high water requirements, instead of things like corn, peanuts, carrots and wheat which all use less water than all non-seafood meat.
It's also assumed the produce will be wasted at exponentially higher rates than meat, which can be preserved more easily. That may be true, but they don't include the preservatives or energy to refrigerate and/or freeze meat on the bacon side of the equation.

Of course the lettuce takes more resources if you eat 40+ cups instead of 4 thin bacon strips, just like when you compare a single fish stick to several giant pumpkins.

*rant over*

No Bill, if people swapped their beef for kale smoothies we'd have at least 18% less global warming - potentially up to 52% depending who's published the study. http://www.cowspiracy.com/facts/

That looks tasty. Boiling Kale and adding it into soup is also really good. It's amazing how shite kale tastes unless you cook it somehow and then it springs it's flavor.

I hope you don't feel like that I'm pushing anything onto you. I'd like to just present the facts. I wasn't vegan until I turned 33, so I'm certainly not judging or trying to give out this information in order to put anyone down or elevate myself. I'm not trying to troll, I'm not trying to out-do you. I'm also typing this with limited time, so apologies if some of it sounds frank. (The videos below do a better job than me anyway).

1) A proper plant based diet makes it 8 times less likely for cancer cells to grow. There is a reason why 3rd world countries (that have largely plant based diets due to poverty) don't get cancers us westerners have. Also the #1 killer in the western world is cardiovascular disease, in the US alone one person dies every 8 seconds from it. Which is around 400, 000 people a year.

I know you're sceptical. I was too. So here's some actual science from actual doctors, who have come these conclusions on proper peer reviewed and non biased / industry funded research:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rNY7xKyGCQ2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZtPGyLaiHE1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYTf0z_zVs03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XVf36nwraw4


2)Vegans aren't anti-choice, they are pro life, pro planet. The actions of people eating animal products goes way further than a person choosing to eat something(sure they are typically ignorant of the consequences, as most of pre-vegans were too). When a large portion of the planet chooses to eat animal products it effects everyone, because it's destroying the planet through global warming, deforestation, dumping of animal agriculture waste and so on. It kills more animals than just ones being brutalised in cages. It will eventually kill us too. To me it seems like a bad idea to destroy the only place in the universe that we can currently live.
So by eating animal products you're really making a choice for you, for me, for my hypothetical grandchildren, and of course for the animal that almost certainly wants to keep being alive. So as a vegan I'd like you refrain for making choices that impact my life, and I'm standing up for the voiceless animals who would certainly object to your choice too.

3) As you (hopefully) saw in at least one of the videos above, there is nothing in meat which cannot be obtained from a plant source (and without all of the bad stuff that comes with meat).



Your idea of a farm with humanely raised animals is a good start, but it's just not practical, the earth isn't big enough to meet demand. It's also still highly unethical as you still kill the animals at an early age in order to harvest their flesh.

You have a picture of two dogs in your avatar. I'm sure if someone decided to schedule their lives to end early for any reason, let alone to eat them, you'd find that pretty immoral right? You no doubt treat your dogs very well, but that doesn't make it OK to kill when they reach adolescence. If I said I wanted to eat your dogs (I don't of course) then any reason you came up with applies still to any farm animals that you currently feel fine with eating.

The animals also aren't stupid and they're aware of what's going on. My grandparents owned a massive farm with cows/pigs/rabbits/chickens and crops as well. They were living very comfortable lives as far as farm animals go, but they did not like it when you approached them, they knew what was waiting for them.
When you see typical farm animals that are truly free this is what they look like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIF3BYBXZWA
They behave like pets, even cows kick a ball around.

Also cows milk is only created for when the cow is pregnant. Even if the cow is living in cow utopia, if it is getting milked then that's milk that should have gone to a calf. It was most likely artificially impregnated, and also most likely bought from someone that breeds female cows, and kills the male cows (since you only need one bull to harvest the semen).
When you really think about it, even the best treated animals are being breed and used to make someone money as the primary goal. That is immoral.



So what it really comes down to is taste. The ethics, the environmentalism, the health don't play a role in the debate at all, and hopefully one of those things is important to you, perhaps all 3.

Being animal product free isn't as hard as you think, it's as simple as swapping out a few ingredients here and there. It's not all about eating broccoli and kale. You'll still be eating burritos, burgers, pizzas, pastas, curries etc. Just slightly different and before you know it, you'll barely know the difference, and eventually prefer them that way.

And this is probably the part I found the hardest to believe myself, but once I knew about it, veganism became the easiest thing in the world. Taste is completely influenced by the foods you eat, because of brain chemistry. I thought I could never stop eating two things: cheese and chocolate. After about a month of not eating them (and yes it takes a little bit of effort towards the 3 week mark) you will break the dopamine effect in your brain and you'll never want to eat them again. I can eat vegan cheese and dairy free chocolate, but it does absolutely nothing for me these days. This is coming from someone that wouldn't eat regular chocolate, I had to have the good stuff, everyday. The cravings get pretty intense at the 3 week mark, I won't lie, but then one day you realise you've not had the cravings for several days.
When it comes to meats, even if they are well done, all I can smell is oil and blood. Eggs all I smell is sulphur. I find all of that quite repugnant and I see them for what they really are, rather than what my dopamine recepters tell me.

Now of course you can be unhealthy vegan, and eat all of the oreos, chips, and dairy free chocolate you want. That's up to you, either way the planet and animals don't care which way you go about it

Not kale! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I see that and raise you a kale smoothie made with almond milk that I made today

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I put kale in my juicer and almond milk in my coffee. *quality

So i'm doing a 10 day juice fast where i drink between 6 and 8 (16 oz) glasses of juice per day.

Each day i juice:
3-4 bunches of kale
3-4 apples
3-4 lemons
12-16 stalks of celery
6-8 carrots
Total daily calories 875-1250
and the great thing is im not hungry at all.

"It doesn't take long to look up some information on your own to find out who's trying to do the real spinning."

^ thanks, i did just what you said

took about 20 seconds...

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/08/19/organic.cooking.pv/index.html

"Researchers studied five different crops -- carrots, kale, mature peas, apples and potatoes -- which were cultivated both organically (without pesticides) and conventionally (with the use of pesticides) and found that there was no higher level of trace elements in the food grown organically."

Here's one for the list: http://www.videosift.com/video/Timelapse-High-Speed-Gardening

Love the Karsh Kale soundtrack. Very soothing.

Here's where MINK gets his, a bit late, had to shove wheat-free gluten up some hippie's sterile ass, and kill some game-now that that there is no game, guess we're eatin' crackers n' kale, you have some bitter Prussian bitch's mother to thank for us havin to suffer another mix and match, but that's a mirror's gaze away from where you sit right now, if you are reading this, you half-breed, genetically scarred wart on the planet's surface.....

So the official Roast of MINK had commenced...here follows a few opening thoughts, if you can call stream of consciousness ball-busting any effort whatsoever...

Firstly, some of the other users who chimed in without following proper decorum on past roasts only to find yer clever little asses thrown in the pool of future roastees??? That's yer dumbass, no rules readin', wanting to be noticed, luck. Get ready for the die to fall yer way at a most inopportune time, most likely when you feel really passionate about some issue you have no business touching, because of your grab-bag, anything goes, let everyone do what they think is right for them, sensibilities....fuck you , yer clock is ticking, and we may all be here with you now but wait until you have to actually open yer brain up to the chopping block.......hope ya like, foi grois of useless fat blended.....

Lithuania.
Otherwise known as Stalin's Fistfuck....yer real smart now, but just a few ticks ago, you couldn't decide yer heads from ass as it relates to yer own. Well, guess yer off the hook by now, you and every other ass-bag in the Baltics..it's a wonder someone with a computer and some time to kill, that isn't a complete wife-beating alcoholic, has enough synaptic wherewithall to be here with 2 cogent thoughts to rub together......Heh...ooops , sorry....we only have one asshole from there and he has yet to prove my wonder anything more than hopeful fantasy-

MINK fancies himself a musician, and has even given us a taste of something he feels just fine about....I listened to his theme-song, and his friends need to stop buying the shit Antanas approved for sterilizing goat nipples with back in the 30's, and try some proper grain.....oh wait, they used all barrels for bathtubs after 42'....

I have been told by the man himself, that his decision to become a vegetarian, proceeded his decision to become a vegan, after he had a wittle food poisoniong that took him to the next level, and made him face mortality at the hands of someone not wiping their ass....Is this true MINK? next time you decide to swear off meat, make sure you don't let yer girlfriend. cook for you again....speakin' a which....

in his questionairre, mink answered this when asked what he did when he was not on the computer....
"1. What do you do when you are not on the computer?

"eat vegetarian food, fuck a vegetarian, buy vegetables, that sort of thing.
And make music, but that's on a computer... so.... but I play trumpet... Into a computer"

So you hang out near a feedbag, copulate with Bossie after staelin' her grain, and hum to yerself??....that's no trumpet yer playin', it's a skin flute!!

You nall of late, well, some of you, have a problem with semantics..or tone, or whatever....lemme tell ya what it really is..Most of you were never taught how to derrive meaning from the written word....As a result, you hold some grudge against MINK for coming off, as some frustrated geezer, disillusioned with the sift, with life, with the world at large...

Get over it, you ineffectual meatbots!!! MINK is the man in your mirror that tells you how fucking ugly that mole is is from that angle(straight ahead, you can't miss a schizm like that) or how similar to methane in an elevator that last comment you pulled from Urectum was. He has a better handle on what smells anyhow, seeing as how all you poor sunsabicthces suffer from the many ailments that come with the ingestion of sweatmeats, and he himself, in all his rice-cake eatin', guilty-cheese coveting, politely cared for before being tapped for their juices loving, gonna live better than any of us because he don't kill nor go with those who do, assholes here.

Dude, you really need a vacation. Try Poland-Maybe you can find someone there that is not so pissed that they can't forgive you for your complicity with the Krauts...a deaf, dumb, blind Jewess, that owns a liquor store....

Oh, and I forgot to add...

It's not just a hypothetical. It has yielded tangible results and the prevention of several attacks, and that's just from the one case that we know of: Kaled Sheik Mohammed. On the moral question, would it have been better to refrain from the "coercive interrogation" and let the attacks happen?

What is more moral, preventing the murder of hundreds or thousands or refraining from coercive techniques like this one?

Had the attacks not been prevented and you learned that there was a KSM type that had information that could have stopped the attacks in advance, would you or anybody else be content with the argument that the attacks could not be prevented because we wanted to maintain our sense of moral superiority and refrain from the use of coercive interrogation?

And we only know about KSM because it was leaked. How many other attacks were prevented due to the use of coercive interrogation on other jihadis that we don't even know about?

Again, we're not talking about people arrested on suspicion - we're talking about jihadis that have been captured on the actual battlefield.