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Some guy engineers his own 9/11 experiments

Some guy engineers his own 9/11 experiments

joedirt says...

>> ^Pantalones:

Back to the video...
The NatGeo program made three claims, and then supported them with an experiment. This guy did more experiments and contradicted NatGeo. Thus the process of science. We all remember science right? Testing, changing the variables and retesting for the fuck of it to gain a better understanding? Clearly the NatGeo conclusions were at best incomplete, and at worst completely wrong.
When it comes to receiving new information, there are four possible responses:
1) Outright rejection based on a bias, which can include previous education.
2) Complete acceptance.
3) Curiosity and an impulse to investigate potential flaws or openings for more explanation.
4) Complete disinterest and remembering that now ice cold Hot Pocket left in the microwave.
Scientists are either #1 or #3. Great scientists are by definition #3 at some point in their life. The rest of us (pundits, politicians, citizens, etc...) fall into the other two categories.


Thanks for this. The point of the video is that the official story and investigation declared this impossible. The official media shows on this like NatGeo and PopMechanics make bold statements and act as experts and declare things impossible.


Some guy proves them all wrong in his back yard.


Anyways, the fact of the matter is the WTC was built like a box within a box, and the floors for each level spanned the outer tube to the inner core. The reality is that no possible fire could take down the inner core. Yes, heat even from jet fuel could maybe weaken the hangers and they might give. We would then have to talk about energy of "pancaking" and acceleration and forces, which I think there are legitimate questions about.

But the reality is that the inner core would maybe bend over from damage, maybe the pancaking might cause problems at the base.. but it seems impossible for the inner core to collapse, especially from fire. Go google how it was constructed and where the official damaged sections from the plane and jet fuel officially were. In one tower the core was more damaged.

How Undersea Cables Are Laid

charliem says...

>> ^Hybrid:

It's insane that the coiled loading process has not been mechanized.


Machines dont handle fibre spooling like that with enough finesse.

The cable shown in this video is of the unarmored variety. This is mainly laid in the deep segments of cable runs, where anchor drops are least likely to cause a cut. The cables that run from the shore out to depths that are unreachable by all but the largest seafaring vessels are armored even further with Kevlar sheaths covering quite a lot more steel wires wrapped around the thin inner core of the cable you see in this video.

Laying of the cable in the deep ocean requires a plow, the cable is literally sown several feet beneath the seabed with said plow to ensure that no anchor drops, or fishing nets can cause a cable cut.

Cables are laid in areas of ocean that are marked on sea charts as 'no-drop' zones. In most nations, dropping anchor in these areas carries a MONSTROUS fine, whether you cut the cable or not.

BreaksTheEarth and GOLD discovered on Easter Island (Science Talk Post)

Why Are Planets Round?

rychan says...

This Sagan guy seems kind of shady, let's fact check him

He says if you build a mountain significantly taller than Everest it will be crushed under its own weight. Let's see:

Everest is made of limestone and dolomite (among other minerals). They have a compressive strength of about ~150 megapascals. That means a surface area of Mount Everest can sustain up to 150 million Newtons of force before crushing.

Limestone and dolomite have a density of about 2,500 kg / m^3. Each such cubic meter would exert roughly 25,000N of force downward in Earth's gravity. So how high can we stack this stuff before the base crushes?

(150MPa / 25KN/m^3) = (150,000,000 N / m^2 ) / ( 25,000 N / m^3 ) = 6000 meters.

You might note that Everest is, in fact, taller than 6000m. But it is not completely vertical and it likely has some materials with higher compressive strengths at its base.

Once you enter the Earth's mantle, then rocks are in an environment with pressures higher than their compressive strength, leaving them to behave slightly like fluids and thus seek the minimum energy configuration of a sphere.

At the bottom of the Earth's mantle, you get to pressure's of about ~136 GPa, 1,000 times higher than our hypothetical column of Everest.

sources
http://www.geocities.com/unforbidden_geology/rock_properties.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantle_(geology)

It's interesting that if you look at a cross section of the Earth, the crust is obviously solid, while the upper mantle is so hot that it is very fluid-like. The deeper, lower mantle, while much hotter than the upper mantle, is under so much more pressure that it is actually very nearly solid. Then the outer core is melted nickel-iron while the inner core is solid. So the Earth's cross section from surface to core is approximately solid / liquid / solid / liquid / solid.

9/11 Rare view of the south tower hit.

charliem says...

NIST has a comprehensive report detailing how this particular structure collapsed, and how come others that have either been engulfed in flames for DAYS, OR also hit by a plane, did not collapse in the same manner.

It has to do with the way the floors were constructed around a central pillar.

Trusses linked to the outer frame, and the inner core with a few simple angle clips to hold and share the load, with no free-standing pillars like conventional towers. This gave the floors much much more open floor space than any other tower out there...with obvious advantages.

Take some of the clips out of one floor thats hooked into the outer shell, and you have to share the load of the floor on the rest of the clips.

Shock load the clips and you stress them to a point where they cant hold as much weight prior to a collapse as they used to.

Strip the fire-proofing material off the steel that was rated to handle fires much much hotter than jet fuel could possibly provide, expose said steel to a mix of noxious gasses (created by burning old office equipment) that destroyed basic bonds holding the alloys in the steel together and you turn said steel into iron...drastically lowering its strength potential.

Heat the iron up, she melts...more clips fail, floor pancakes onto one below it. The one below is shock loaded and snaps instantly.....domino effect ensues, tower collapses into its own footprint at close to free-fall.

And yes, concrete can vaporise if you provide enough force.

Other towers either hit by a plane, or had been exposed to much hotter fires for far longer, had drastically different internal designs. They had a series of cubes connecting to one another, essentially an intricate pattern of concrete covered steel beams criss-crossing their way through the entire structure.

Take one beam out (either by fire or collision)...big whoop, theres 300 others to do its job. Not so with twin towers, the clips holding the trusses were limited, and a significant portion of them on the central impact floor were taken out in the collision.

Honk if you hate Scientology

Lurch says...

While they really go about it in an immature way, Scientology needs to be exposed for the fraud it is. It's not a religion. It's a corporate entity that brainwashes people and cleans out their bank accounts. Look up the information on their prison camps for dissenters, their private intelligence force, the FBI raids that uncovered stolen government documents, or how they seperate children from their parents for indoctrination. These cultists infilitrated the US government and were stealing/destroying files. They spy on their enemines and use scare tactics. They even bought out an entire police department in Clearwater, Florida. Unfortunately, people just getting sucked in to Scientology at the beginning levels haven't seen the ugly side until it's too late. They view this kindof stuff as hate and religious oppression instead of attempts to free them from a cult.

http://www.videosift.com/video/Cult-of-Scientology-takes-over-Clearwater-Police-Dept

http://www.videosift.com/video/Cult-of-Scientologys-Militaristic-Inner-Core

http://www.videosift.com/video/Cult-of-Scientology-Builds-Secret-Vaults-in-the-Mountains

These guys are major human rights abusers. They just seem to have enough money and legal muscle to silence any major criticism. Most of these poor people are enslaved and just can't accept it.

Cult of Scientology's Militaristic Inner Core

Trancecoach says...

>> ^MarineGunrock:
I still don't get how people think that joining Scientology is a good idea.


They use general semantics and hypnosis on the premise of "self-improvement" or "stress relief." The more progress you make, the more encouragement / discipline you receive as feedback so to keep you motivated towards achieving "the bridge" to your "success" rather than become a quitter.

Hello, Scientology. We are Anonymous. (LULZ forthcoming)

Cult of Scientology Builds Secret Vaults in the Mountains

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