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Trump Is Immune - LegalEagle analysis

newtboy says...

WRONG.
The invalid and corrupt SCOTUS changed the law to make “official acts” by one person, the president, above the law, can’t even be scrutinized…which has NEVER been the case, indeed our government was designed to avoid exactly that. NO MAN IS ABOVE THE LAW has been the American motto since its inception. That creed has now been invalidated by this unfathomable decision which adds the asterisk “*except the president when acting officially” while intentionally leaving open the question of what is an official act and what isn’t, allowing for uneven, unequal, inconsistent application based on politics or payoffs, not law or facts.

They did say acts by the POTUS in or outside their authority can be prostituted…legalizing bribery so long as the policy change comes before the final check. A Freudian slip you got correct. That was another change this extremist court just made.

Once again since you cannot read or comprehend what you’ve been told repeatedly, the position was not fear mongering about hypotheticals, it was pointing out the specific anti democratic crimes already committed and those promised by one candidate in their campaign of retribution against the non cultists…the exact examples brought up during arguement that were just determined to be legal, like the assassination of a political rival by the military. That is not hypothetical now, they ruled on it precisely.

LIAR.

No President has ever needed immunity for official acts before Trump because none ever tried to commit felonies then hide behind their authority as president (Nixon tried, but like Trump his crimes were definitely unofficial acts not official no matter how he tried to make them official, not presidential orders but campaign activities just like the coup, but he had the moral fortitude to step down and go away, Trump would rather burn it all down.)

Explain why Trump needs immunity if he didn’t commit crimes.

bobknight33 said:

SCOTUS upheld what always been. Acts done with in POTUS authority are immune from prosecution. Acts done outside of POTUS authority can be criminal and prostituted. Nothing changed nothing added nothing removed.
From the SCOTUS ruling " the dissents position in the end boil down ignoring the Constitution's separation of powers and the Courts precedent and instead fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Shocker.
You believe the stupidest baseless nonsense, but not sworn statements corroborated by physical evidence and other victims/witnesses sworn statements with then unknown details now known to be correct like Epstein’s record/legder of massage “dates” (yes, there are physical records of Don setting up massages on kiddie rape island in 2004 when Epstein was known to be a child rapist and pimp/trafficker, explain that) with naked young girls who had “summer jobs” at the island, some referred directly by the felon and rapist Don himself from Maralago well after he knew Epstein was a child rapist.

“ The first declaration, signed by Jane Doe herself, detailed Trump's alleged "savage sexual attack" on the then-13-year-old plaintiff.

The second declaration was signed by pseudonymous Tiffany Doe, who said she was hired by Jeffrey Epstein throughout the 1990s to recruit adolescent women to attend the billionaire's parties.

Tiffany Doe claims she convinced the then-13-year-old plaintiff to attend the parties as a means to break in to New York's professional modeling world. In her declaration, Tiffany Doe says she witnessed four sexual encounters in which Jane Doe was forced to have sex with Trump, and two encounters involving the plaintiff and Jeffrey Epstein.

The Tiffany Doe declaration included Epstein's threats against her and her family for disclosing the details of any sexual abuse of minors by Epstein and his party guests, swearing under penalty of perjury that she understands that her and her family's lives are "now in grave danger."

The new complaint includes an additional witness exhibit from an anonymous "Joan Doe" whose sworn declaration says Jane Doe told her what happened with Trump and Epstein during the 1994-1995 school year.”

Held captive for 3 months….where did you get that detail, it’s not in reports? Did it come from Trump? How would he know? Reports are she was recruited for parties…like many others including Maralago employees referred directly by Trump himself (the little girls who turned him on but he couldn’t fuck at home).
Where were her parents? On the mainland maybe being reassured by the felon and rapist that their 13 year old blond girls were fine alone on kiddie rape island, he checked, he wouldn’t have set them up with “modeling jobs” with his friend who he knows “likes his girls quite young” to have anything bad happen.
No. Never.
Except all those other times when he did exactly that…but otherwise, never!
“Really, relax, this is how they can become models”…said Trump….”and if you or your family talks about the rapes you’re all dead”.

bobknight33 said:

Yea I believe

NOT!

13 yr old held captive for 3 months while Trump f her .

Where was he mom and dad?

LEGO: Jaws in a Jiffy

Supreme Court ruling on Donald Trump immunity

newtboy says...

From his Supreme Court hearing-
“No one is above the law, that’s a foundational principal I’ve talked about coming from Federalist 69, coming from the structure of the constitution. We are all equal under the law in the United States Of America.
The foundation of our constitution was, as Hamilton explained in Federalist 69, “the Presidency would not be a monarchy” and it specified all the ways under the constitution the president is not above the law, no one is above the law in the United States of America.”
“The president is subject to the law, no one is above the law in the United States of America including the president of the United States and that’s something that is made clear in Federalist 69.
Even in a national security context where the constitution gives the commander in chief power to the president, the president remains subject to the law. The president is not above the law with respect to the criminal process.”
“No one is above the law in our constitutional system. Federalist 69, Hamilton, makes clear all the ways that the executive branch as designed by the framers of the constitution was different from the monarchy.” - Kavenaugh

Now that he’s hearing the case- “The president is not subject to the law, and is not only above the law both criminal and civil when performing official duties, but any actions claimed to have been performed as official duties may not be used as evidence or even investigated, even in cases where they broke the law unofficially outside any possible official duty, no matter how exculpatory or illegal those official actions were (like murdering a witness (Epstein)), and if the president so chooses they may convert to a monarchy at their whim, so long as they claim it’s official.”

This is a complete 180 from what he said at his confirmation, just like Barrett claiming at her confirmation Supreme Court precedent was settled law not to be revisited then revisiting and reversing dozens of decades old precedents.

SCOTUS is invalid so long as those on it believe they are above the law and allowed to sell judgements to the highest bidder, something every single right wing justice but no Left wing justice has been PROVEN to have done, some to the tune of tens of millions….and lied on sworn statements about it for decades too.

bobknight33 said:

SCOTUS upheld what always been. Acts done with in POTUS authority are immune from prosecution. Acts done outside of POTUS authority can be criminal and prostituted. Nothing changed nothing added nothing removed.

From the SCOTUS ruling " the dissents position in the end boil down ignoring the Constitution's separation of powers and the Courts precedent and instead fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals."

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$825,000 After Police Beat, Tase, Pepper Spray Diabetic

newtboy says...

Both too low to make up for the abuse and too high for the public to pay.

These settlements should come from the police pension fund and payroll, not the general fund until the pension fund is empty and payroll a bare minimum. Police might police themselves if they paid a price….they have proven they won’t if they don’t.

bobknight33 said:

$825K is too low.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

The just released Epstein call logs have uncountable messages from Don the con almost daily in 2004 (exactly when it was already known by prosecutors Epstein was actively running the child prostitution ring he was convicted for in 06) setting up “massage appointments” with Epstein’s girls at his kiddie rape island where flight logs prove he visited at LEAST 7 times on Epstein’s plane (we don’t know how often he took his own plane there, but often).
I know…you will say these rich Republicans were flying for hours to a private island where a child prostitution ring operated for years for LEGITIMATE MASSAGES with 13 year old girls and not pedophilic debauchery or anything else untoward…because they couldn’t get legitimate massages on the mainland? REALLY!? 😂

After months of shouting how only their/your felon was absent from the (at the time unreleased) Epstein lists…Crickets from the “THINK OF THE CHILDREN” brigade. Not one word from the right about disgraced Trump beingTHE MOST PROMINENTLY AND OFTEN MENTIONED PERSON ON THE LIST OF CHILD PROSTITUTION CLIENTS, with near daily recorded correspondence with Epstein and his madams and constant “massages” booked at the island. Suddenly releasing the Epstein files isn’t important, and we should forget what we already know and just move on because child rape isn’t really a crime…not if Trump did it.

At this point I expect right after the election the tapes of Epstein clients murdering infants for adrenochrome will be released because literally every accusation is an admission, even the completely bat shit crazy ones! HOLY FUCK!

Let’s also not forget The Spirit Of New York in 91 when Trump and other old rich men partied hard and sexy with unchaperoned young girls as young as 13 on a yacht. It’s not a one time thing or misunderstanding, there are decades of evidence directly from the man himself showing how he loves little girls sexually, and I mean pre-pubescent 13 year old girls like the one who says he raped her on the island…never retracted but she dropped her case because she and her family were constantly being threatened with murder by maggots and couldn’t get protection.

Supreme Court ruling on Donald Trump immunity

newtboy says...

Lied to? How so….be specific.

😂 Reiterate the oblivious 😂….um…yes. The oblivious felon did make this claim first, the oblivious “justices” did reiterate.

So why is Trump celebrating like he just got a get out of jail free card?


This is not how it’s always been, before this ruling official acts still had to be lawful…not anymore. As long as they’re official acts, they are legal (as far as penalties are concerned) no matter what the law says. That’s what they ruled.
Edit: They did not give the disgraced ex president his claimed total immunity however…if the courts decide fomenting a coup was not an official presidential act, or falsifying documents for fake electors is not an official president’s act, or secretly pressuring a governor to “find” 11000+ votes is not an official presidential act, or taking and withholding classified state secrets and lying about having them to the FBI and actively hiding them from warranted searches after he was no longer president are not official presidential acts, then he still has some serious legal trouble to add to whatever happens next week at his sentencing.

As long as the President is using official powers, what he uses them for cannot be questioned. Biden could assassinate Trump like he claims Biden tried to do 100% legally now, and Thomas, and Alito, and the other corrupt “justices” that invalidated a long cherished institution for money, and anyone he thinks threatens America…100% immune because protecting the nation is a Presidential duty.
Fortunately Trump tried to hide most of his crimes by using unofficial orders to non governmental agents through unofficial channels, so he’s got an uphill climb to argue they are official acts.
The issues listed in the dissent are not extreme or hypothetical, they are in fact campaign promises by the convicted felon and terrorist leader and specific examples argued by the Trump lawyers as things that are (now) legal…like assassination of a political rival.
The court just couldn’t help but try to minimize its extremist ruling that upends 248 years of the rule of law and puts the president above the law when using presidential powers (like assassinations, or cancelling elections, jailing political rivals, disbanding the border patrol, etc.) by calling threats made by those who have followed through on those exact same threats before “fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals"
The president refusing to accept the election results and trying to seize or hold onto power illegally was one example…not extreme or hypothetical or fear mongering, it fucking happened, and this ruling means it may be legal (if considered official).

Biden damn well better make use of this immunity to save democracy or maybe he deserves to lose, he now has carte Blanche to pull anything, absolutely anything as long as he says it’s for America, everything is allowed, nothing is forbidden. I’m worried he has morals and won’t use these new unlimited assassination and coup powers…very worried. I know for an absolute certainty that the other guy doesn’t.

bobknight33 said:

@newtboy

Again you have been lied to by the fake news and Democrat party.

Sadly this had to go to the Supreme court just to reiterate the oblivious. When will you learn -- you are always being lied to about Trump.



SCOTUS upheld what always been. Acts done with in POTUS authority are immune from prosecution. Acts done outside of POTUS authority can be criminal and prostituted. Nothing changed nothing added nothing removed.
From the SCOTUS ruling " the dissents position in the end boil down ignoring the Constitution's separation of powers and the Courts precedent and instead fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals."

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

newtboy says...

“Fined for mishandling the payment “?
She hired a law firm and classified the payment as legal fees. Isn’t that something your side says isn’t a crime? 😂
The dossier was bought and paid for by Republicans, then sold to the Clinton Campaign. I know you hate that fact, but it’s there.

The laptop contents are fantasy, as is the diary. Half truths and pure fiction. Shouldn’t have tampered with it if you wanted anyone to pay attention….not that it would matter anyway, Hunter is nobody.

The economy crashed under the felon, it got better under Biden. Trump can get credit for the first 6-12 months of the next president’s economy which were not good, but absolutely not last 12 which so far are amazing, far better than the last guy’s best year.

Michael Flynn was convicted of treasonous activity and the felon Trump pardoned him because he did the treason for Trump, namely negotiating with Russia in December before his administration started then lying about it to the FBI.

The Biden’s did no such thing and your multiple investigations have found zero evidence of any payoffs nor a single time Biden changed policy to help China, that was Don and Ivanka who were given millions in patents then the next morning changed policy to favor China, then were gifted more million dollar patents. You can’t point to any untoward or even questionable payment after 4 full years of investigations. At best you just refuse to hear the verified explanations and make up crimes.

Trump lost jobs. He left a negative gdp and recession. Shelves went bare under the felon. Over 1 million Americans died due to his policy according to his own CDC. He added more to the debt and deficit in one term than any listed president did in two. The wannabe dictator left the nation more divided than any time since the 1850s and continues to sew division constantly. Trump was worse than any you listed by any measure. You simply deny the facts.

Nice pedophile fantasy you have there, every accusation is an admission, but not smart especially since Trump definitely fucked his daughter and has bragged about it publicly for decades, Barron is definitely her son, the resemblance is there but not with Melania. Trump is on the Epstein list more than anyone else but Maxwell who he still wishes well…know who isn’t? Biden. Trump is an adjudicated rapist with now 40 accusers. Know who isn’t? One has 34 felony convictions…which one was that? 😂

BTW- the first few post debate polls are out…Biden gained a few points after the debate. Enjoy!

bobknight33 said:

The Russia hoax was just that. Bought and paid for by hilly Clinton, and she got fined for mishandling the payment .

The Laptop IS real. The diary is real

The Economy did get better.
Michael Flynn took a shit deal. along with all the others

.


Biden sold America to China and Ukraine and lined the pockets of himself and his family.

Trump still a better POTUS than OBAMA, Biden or wannabee Clinton.

Joe showered with his daughter. Pedophile Joe is your man.

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

newtboy says...

To lose, your points must not be valid.
To win, your points must be valid.
Biden won.

Biden also showed his age and missed multiple opportunities to stick it to the felon.

Trump couldn’t get a single fact correct, that’s not good, it’s not even OK. In a debate, that’s a total fail.
Yes, I understand this was more campaign commercial than actual debate. In that, Biden lost.

If Michelle would accept the nomination it would be amazing, Trump would be done and America would be saved by a brilliant woman…but she won’t. I would still be excited for Buttigieg, my choice in 20, but I don’t think he’s going to try either. Anyone is better than the fascist felon. ANYONE. Biden is still a better choice if he’s in a coma.

bobknight33 said:

I watched,
This was Biden's to lose, and he did.
Trump did ok, not great.



Biden looked like a deer in the headlights.
Time to put Michelle Obama in the warm up pen.

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

newtboy says...

lol. You claim CNN states Biden lost but post a clip from the NYPost of him “hitting back” on his 36 felony convictions (and 50+ more charges) by pointing to Hunter’s 3. WHAT!? Does he know who the candidate is? 😂
Biden lost the fight for live fact checking, but that’s all he lost. Trump was his normal lying and ranting self. Tomorrow’s fact checking will show 90% of his statements were lies, but that doesn’t matter to you, we know, because you share his (total lack of) morals.
The choice is thriving democracy or crumbling despotic monarchy, and that’s no choice.
Biden wasn’t my choice for 2020, he wouldn’t be my first choice in 2024, but given the choice between him and a convicted felon whose second term will be a vitriolic and violent attack against half of America and may never end, I and tens of millions more would vote for Biden if he was drooling in his oatmeal incapable of speaking, and I’m certain it would be better for the country.

So sad…just grasping at nothing in desperation. It’s ok…we all know who you’re voting for, and we all know better.

bobknight33 said:

CNN states Biden lost the debate. Even they turned on Joe.

"So here's a clip of Al meeting Michael Jackson ... sort of"

noims says...

Definitely fake news. I saw an extremely precise and accurate film about Weird Al (Weird: The Al Yankovic Story) that categorically proves that Al wrote the song and Jackson stole it. It's on film so it must be true! Definitely check it out if you get a chance.

(that last sentence is true; the rest too, obviously, but the last sentence is truer)

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Uh oh….leaked transcripts of the felon’s lawyer’s notes show he knew for certain having the stolen classified documents was a crime and repeatedly tried to get his layer to go along with lying to the DOJ and saying repeatedly “wouldn’t it be better if there are no documents” “shouldn’t we just say there are no documents” “wouldn’t turning over the documents open me up to prosecution or more searches”.
Blows up his “I didn’t know stealing classified state secrets and keeping them in rooms open to the public and lying to theDOJ and FBI about it was wrong” defense…not that that would be a defense in any unbiased court…but he’s got Cannon so it’s a tossup.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Have you noticed that every campaign event, every “visit” to storefronts and every rally …EVERY SINGLE ONE includes planned meetings with and introduction of FELONS. Latest was in Philadelphia where he visited a cheese steak restaurant whose owner is in prison for tax fraud and stealing from his employees for years. He brings murderers, rapists, thieves, gang members, sex offenders, admitted pedophiles, tax frauds, etc. EVERY EVENT HE HOLDS IS CHOCK FULL OF FELONS, AND I DON’T MEAN JUST TRUMP HIMSELF. He’s trying hard to desensitize you to complete criminality at the highest levels…it’s worked.
You haven’t noticed, but EVERYONE in convicted felon Trump’s inner circle is another convicted felon, most for sex crimes like his spiritual advisor who admitted to raping a 12 year old girl for years and years, but some for stealing from charities (Bannon), employees (Cheese steak owner), and the nation (all of them)….like Trump who has been convicted of all 3 and is undeniably guilty of multiple rapes (his ex wife and Carrol and the 13 year old at Epstein island) and child sexual abuse.

He probably should stop the projection about President Biden taking drugs to enhance his performance since his own doctor was drunken Dr Feelgood for 4 years in the whitehouse, handing out pills from Adderol to Fentanyl to anyone who asked, no prescription, and was demoted for it. Between them they have been WAY too detailed about the concoction of multiple drugs they “think Biden is on” (because it’s what Trump is on), talking about his debate prep they say is nothing but a week of getting dosages right, not real prep (who does that sound like? Not Joe. 😂) and now Don is even saying exactly where he gets the injections, in his flabby ass, not realizing that’s one bit of information too many and only someone doing it would know all he knows about taking these drugs. You might notice (but I know you won’t) Don insists President Biden should take a drug test, but he won’t answer when asked if he would, because he absolutely won’t. You would be shocked at the amount of meth that old man ingests…the constant 3am meth fueled tweet binges are a sure sign.

27 Bubbles About to Pop

newtboy jokingly says...

Trying to set up an excuse for why the economy tanks if President Biden loses.

I would point out his instant insanity claiming Nvidia has 10% of the nation’s GDP…Nvidia’s market share is in fact under .1% of the US GDP ($26 Trillion) at $26 billion. Also his claim the market is down, it’s at record highs and staying there for a record time period.

This is utter nonsensical bullshit from idiots and liars who only fool completely ignorant idiots like our buddy Bob, who buys every stupid lie the right sells him and never looks at reality.



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