"What if I told you that tickling them was like torture?"

Then I'd say: "please explain why this is and how you worked it out so I can contribute meaningfully to the issue."

Genuinely had to check after watching that this wasn't a hoax/satire. I'm not sure it could have come across as much more patronising and manipulative if they had tried.

Really reminded me of G.E.F.A.F.W.I.S.P. thing from brasseye in it's style and presentation. (Poe's law etc.)

Not that I disagree with the underlying point being made (most exotic pets have massive hidden costs to the animals well being), but I think they made it very poorly indeed.

If tickling is indeed torturous to them, then maybe make the flagship advert for your campaign do more than glibly announce "they don't like it!" whilst showing a video of what, to uneducated human sensibilities, appears to be joy/pleasure.

I'm not suggesting they are wrong, but even their website provides no materials or evidence to back up what they are saying. With a term as emotive and loaded as "torture", that comes across as rather disingenuous and makes me naturally somewhat suspicious as to their motives.

i.e. that they are likely ideologically opposed to most/all animal trafficking already and will happily muddy the facts & manipulate emotions if it furthers their higher purposes.

^ I don't want the above to come across as support for the Slow Loris pet trade, their unsuitability to domestic life and the need for pretty specialised knowledge to keep them healthy is reason enough (same as the vast majority of exotics). Chris Packham is one of the supporters and I have a great deal of respect for the guy's knowlage on such subjects.

But this, if anything, makes that advert seem all the more distasteful. YOU HAD EXPERTS! Persuade me better!

I also don't want to come across as suggesting that tickling definitely isn't deeply unpleasant for them for whatever reasons, but a cursory google and inspection of their own campaign site yielded nothing of any substance on the subject either way. (maybe my search-fu was lacking today?)

Again, I'm willing to accept the premise. If it will stand on it's own merits then I would like to understand. I will even advocate for the movement myself! But I'm not going to endorse anything I either can't or don't yet properly understand myself.

For every level headed campaigner with a basic sense of discernment and empathy for other creatures, there seems to be a mob of authoritarian ideologues eager to beat us around the head until we see things exactly their way and deny and semblance of nuance (i.e. PETA).

My freezer is still cold, therefore, climate change is a hoax.

The internet is full of the kind of bullshit that was shown on the train.

"Those refugees have an ISIS flag!"
No, they're not refugees

"This guy fought for ISIS!"
No, you fucking liar, he fought AGAINST ISIS

and plenty more

Oh, and one last thing. They're not migrants, they're refugees. There's a big difference.

Sorry for the confusion Nicolebee, I tried to respond to a comment by newtboy that was a response to you, so I lumped you guys together for my comment.
I didn't send you sources for my "claims" because I thought that in the 24 hours since I made my "claims" , that this story has been pretty much been proved as a hoax. I think you can just read the news and see that this is a false story driven by other motives. Its obvious that in the next few days everyone is going to distance themselves from this story. You should probably get ready to let go yourself. This was a well executed trolling.

Given the constant "fat, lazy Americans" commentary from the British, I couldn't help but notice the number of flabby bumpkins in this video.

Also, I really thought the documentary was a hoax until the end came and I looked Wesley up.

Yeah, it's possible, but it's an order of magnitude more difficult than just rendering it.

Part of me thinks this is an elaborate hoax, but if not? This is some *quality engineering

As far as the Racist thing...
The two people in the photos do look the same.
Bill Mahar was more making fun of One Direction and Zayn Malik to the fact that we don't care, because he's just not that big of a star to care.

Context: I'm guessing that the reason he made the comparison is that rumor going around is that Zayn Malik quit One direction to join ISIS. In fact, it was even updated on his Wikipedia page by someone.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/young-girls-promise-join-isis-bid-be-former-one-direction-star-zayn-maliks-wife-627408

This got Zayn's name in the news in many aspects, even though it was a hoax.
Several sites have run with the joke, which wasn't really funny to begin with.
http://islamicanews.com/report-zayn-malik-quit-one-direction-to-join-isis/

So Mayer's comment was just continuing the running joke that the media was already reporting.
Mayer's point was, "really, who cares?"

(Did Babymech just say that getting brutally gang raped in front of one's children by intruders in one's home is somehow comparable or "on par" with getting cut off in traffic? What the fuck is wrong with you?)

What Ms. Carrera doesn't appreciate here is that the assault of Cytheria undermines the narrative put forward by the Social Justice Warriors (i.e., modern feminists) that gives attention to the Duke lacrosse hoax, the Treyvon Martin case, and the Ferguson debacle, but completely ignores Cytheria's rape. Why? Because it negates the notion that rape is always a function of class and privilege (i.e., white affluent men raping poor minority females) and never not. If Emma Sulkowicz or Jackie Coakley lie about being assaulted, the SJWs are all over it, but if Cytheria reports being assaulted by underprivileged African American men, the SJWs simply ignore it.

Modern feminists don't care about rape victims. They never have. They aren't trying to protect women. They are trying to punish masculinity by displacing their own inabilities to cope with anything outside of their wealthy, upper-middle class bubbles...

And that in itself is why a lot of people DO NOT do Guiness (or think they are the "all-knowing God" of records). Because in a lot of situations you have Guiness (and THEIR sponsors) make up arbitrary rules to support their "name to fame"; sometimes to draw an audience no less. Then they let their guy have at it, and then tell everyone to come challenge this "feat". Meanwhile, everyone else is doing all sorts of different things.

So not being with Guiness doesn't mean it is a hoax, but it may mean as @direpickle said, they have very specific "rules" if you want to break a record...

Is it a hoax? I have been rooting around trying to see.

None of the stuff I found on-line has Lars in the same room as the interviewer. He doesn't do speed tournaments because he is so much faster than anyone.

He also has been at this since at least 2012, based on dates of things posted ABOUT him.

And the most damning -- Guinness Book of World Records says Luis Martin is fastest. http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/fastest-time-to-shoot-10-arrows

If this guy is really this good, why hasn't he contacted Guinness?

I think hoax.

That's hilarious...invent? I guess they "invented" deep water and vertical currents too?

The climate models have not 'failed'. They are not designed to predict short term weather. They only predict long term global trends, and are pretty much right on by that measure (contrary to what Faux News seems to have told you). The models have always predicted colder winters and hotter summers, exactly what we're seeing.

You seem to think if the temperature goes down in winter, or one year is not hotter than the last, it's proof that 'global warming' is a myth/hoax. That's simply wrong. (I still have yet to hear a logical reasoning for anyone perpetrating such a 'hoax' though, scientists could clean up if any credentialed, peer reviewed climatologist could prove the hoax and sell that proof to industry, why has that not happened if it's about making money amorally?)

This 'invention'-deep water warming and IPO are not a new ideas, maybe it's just the first you've heard of them?

I pretty much expect to hear that this was a hoax. If not, that's crappy, but not the worst by far. My bro got a baseball bat to the head for being male in a 'gay area' in Houston, and he's not gay.
I'll reserve my vote for a few days to see if this is all fake.

Seems like no one else noticed or cared, but why is it that in the zero-air environment when they did the release the tiny "strands of feather" (I don't know what each little thread on a feather is called, if anything) looked like they were getting pushed back by air?

Am I seeing things?

It must be a hoax. They're probably on a sound stage where they faked the whole thing. Probably not even a real bowling ball.