Wow, so much ignorance in one post.

First up, you've just made @Yogi's point. Classical music was invented by humans, i.e. it does not naturally occur in the wild, unlike homosexuality, which does.


One: So fucking what? I have no desire to watch or participate in male homosexual behaviour. Because I'm not gay. Why would I have a problem with those that do?

Two: Eh??? What the hell does "priests" have to do with this topic?

Three: for the last time, homosexuality is not pedophilia. In fact, the majority of child sexual abuse is carried out by heterosexuals.

Four: Again, so fucking what? If you don't like gay men wearing codpieces or dog collars, stop searching google for those images.

Five: Man, you keep some strange fucking company. I've never heard of that before. Maybe it's a thing, maybe (and far more likely) you made it up or exaggerated a few incidents of people acting like assholes. Again, so fucking what? Straight people do terrible things do.

Six: I repeat, so fucking what? Are you that insecure that you can't handle a few queers acting effeminate? If you don't like that kind of person, don't associate with them.

It all comes down to this. No-one is forcing you to be gay or participate in "gay" activities. You have a choice.

Seriously, stop going to gay bars. Stop searching the internet for gay porn. Stop watching TV shows about home decorating. Stop looking for things to be outraged about.

But don't expect other people to conform to your narrow little viewpoint. You don't have the right not to be offended.

I wish I could downvote.
Argue about Ellen's acting capabilities all you want but this is just plain BS, exactly the kind of BS queer actors fear. If you're a good enough actor and you've been cast right, you can fake even heterosexuality.
Go watch a Rock Hudson movie.

And yet here you are a demand homosexuals to keep their sexuality a secret, keep it away from the public eye because it upsets you with your faith.
Nobody makes you go kiss a boy (assuming you're male yourself here) but nobody stops you from holding your girlfriends hand in public either. Nobody tells you you can't get married in the legal sense because you're straight and no kid gets bullied in school because they're into the other gender.
You talk about beliefs and lifestyles and in that you disrespect gay people, force your belief onto them. It's not a lifestyle, it is who they are, at the very core of their existence, like being straight is not a lifestyle for you. Your refusal to acknowledge this is nothing but deminishing their very identity.
If homosexuality was a lifestyle, so would be heterosexuality. Lifestyles are not natural attributes given by the gods, lifestyle is choice. Do us a favour, choose neither of them, become asexual. It's the best proof, the Pope will agree.

In the end you won't be able to let go of this because christianity has always been obsessed with sexuality, especially that of other people. So eager to control masturbationary habits (Don't be Onan, fight the urge!), women's sexual freedom (Contraception is for whores!) and the queer (Worse abominations than seafood!) and therefore blind to see that this nonsense crusade against everybodys desires drives the masses away from their oh-so-important message of salvation. That's why you loose the fight, mankind is becoming more tolerant and we refuse to beat down the minorities for you any longer.
You can't have it both ways, you can't preach god is love and then hand us a list of people we're supposed to hate and expect us to nod in silent obedience. Times have changed, the minorities get more and more allies.
Honestly, that's what I admire about the Westboro Baptist Church, they're idiotic haters but at least they're consistent with their ideologies and brave enough to stand up for them.

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Also probably closeted like George Michael was in the 80s. I think he's protesting his heterosexuality a little too much in this vid.

Because men aren't trying to be attractive to men. Men are trying to be attractive to heterosexual women.

However, the woman in this video is incentivized to be attractive to lesbians, so It seems unintuitive that she would try to look manly when she knows that is unattractive to lesbians like herself.

I don't have a problem with it, whatever makes them happy, but it is a bit odd, right? Your reply and the video don't get at the real issue -- why are there different types of lesbians. Sexuality is complicated.

I believe it is referring to the first statement about men and women not living together because they are so different, which people would be nodding their heads at, but yet they show the situation where two men live together in a relationship and they are slobs - which doesn't make a huge amount of sense because women are in general a lot cleaner than men, partially invalidating the first statement, and gay men are also in general a lot cleaner than your typical heterosexual men (at least all my gay friends are), partially invalidating the male relationship premise. Or I might be reading too much into it...

"no lesbian would be cruel to another lesbian"

yeah, right...

women are cruel to women even more than men are
and lesbian domestic violence is almost higher than that of heterosexuals

bs propaganda to make minorities seem "cute"
while they are just the same assholes like the rest of us


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these women don't look REAL at all
they look like hipster corporate products, and sound like that too

Being homosexual by definition is abnormal. Abnormal means not the normal thing (heterosexuality lies on the norm). Being abnormal is not an insult or bad in any way, it's just a statistic. E.g. I have abnormal eye colour (hazel), brown is the normal eye colour. If they mean abnormal in another context they need to spell it out.

"treated as second class citizens everywhere they go" - don't make sweeping generalisations that are not true. It would be true to say "some places they go".

LGBT rights are only rights when a nation accepts them as so. Sad but true. And no different from any other right (all rights need to be ratified).

heterosexual ≠ closed-mindedness

apparently (point in case, above), homosexuals can make erroneous generalizations about entire groups of people based on specific (poor) examples...

I hate shit like this.

And perhaps a happier ending? C'mon honey, let's reaffirm our heterosexuality, right here on the kitchen table. * cue bow-chicka-wow-wow music *

If being gay is a choice, then so is being straight.

Can't have it both ways.

So I ask any heterosexual, do you remember when you chose to be straight?

Didn't think so.

It definitely is about perception but the man was a lady before the transformation. I *think* I can see this as not being gay. The sexual identity of a situation like this is much more heterosexual than that. Funny, they didn't ask her whether she thought she was gay?

I think whatever this is should be called adventural sexual.

>> ^hpqp:

>> ^Reefie:
I've often found myself alienated from other men... I think differently, I behave differently, I'm not into typical 'guy' things. Generally I find I understand women relatively well but am totally clueless when it comes to how guys' minds work. At one point in my life I was giving serious thought to the prospect of gender change but there was one obstacle I hadn't counted on - private medical insurance companies and the NHS won't contemplate gender change unless the individual is attracted to those of the same sex. The idea of creating a lesbian didn't go down well with those who have the authority to make such decisions on my behalf.

Wow, that's an extremely bizarre and arbitrary line to draw on the part of the NHS. Maybe they suppose that people like you will have an easier life as a "feminine" heterosexual man (or "male lesbian") than as a transsexual lesbian (and vice-versa for women)?
One thing I've heard from an acquaintance who works with trans people though is that sometimes men and women who are uncomfortable with their gender (often because of childhood trauma) become convinced they are the wrong sex as a means of avoiding tackling those issues. That's one reason why having to go through psychotherapy (the woman I cite is a therapist specialised in this issue) before being allowed to begin hrt/grs is not a bad idea. But refusing gender reassignment just because it'd render you "homosexual", that's pretty absurd.


Despite the absurdity of the denial, in a way I'm glad that option was denied me. It allowed me to come to terms with who I am regardless of my gender. Nowadays I accept that I'm a guy, just not a stereotypical guy. Now the only dilemma I face regularly is the rejection by women who I find attractive (talking both personality and physically, I'm rarely lured by physical attraction alone) since I don't conform to their expectations of the male of the species. Can't blame people for wanting to avoid a fucked-up individual

There's another reason I'm glad the option wasn't available to me... I have two friends who have both gone through the transformation (both are/were guys) and seeing first-hand the emotional anguish they dealt with made me realise I might not have been strong enough to handle the pressures that are imposed on any individual who goes through that process.

... Uncle Frank..? NOOOOOOOO!
>> ^hpqp:

>> ^Reefie:
I've often found myself alienated from other men... I think differently, I behave differently, I'm not into typical 'guy' things. Generally I find I understand women relatively well but am totally clueless when it comes to how guys' minds work. At one point in my life I was giving serious thought to the prospect of gender change but there was one obstacle I hadn't counted on - private medical insurance companies and the NHS won't contemplate gender change unless the individual is attracted to those of the same sex. The idea of creating a lesbian didn't go down well with those who have the authority to make such decisions on my behalf.

Wow, that's an extremely bizarre and arbitrary line to draw on the part of the NHS. Maybe they suppose that people like you will have an easier life as a "feminine" heterosexual man (or "male lesbian") than as a transsexual lesbian (and vice-versa for women)?
One thing I've heard from an acquaintance who works with trans people though is that sometimes men and women who are uncomfortable with their gender (often because of childhood trauma) become convinced they are the wrong sex as a means of avoiding tackling those issues. That's one reason why having to go through psychotherapy (the woman I cite is a therapist specialised in this issue) before being allowed to begin hrt/grs is not a bad idea. But refusing gender reassignment just because it'd render you "homosexual", that's pretty absurd.