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bareboards2 says...

I'd be interested in some of your links. I promise not to send any "counter-links." There are plenty here on the sift.

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For another example besides JS of how to discuss the tragedy with a little class was Barak Obama's speech tonight. If only the rabid wolves and wombats of the media would do as he suggests then maybe things would calm down a little. Sorta doubt that'll happen though. The media on both sides is addicted to angry rhetoric like a drug. Here's hoping...

Violent? You can't honestly believe that.

I do not 'believe' it. I KNOW it is fact because I've seen and heard it.

In the interest of not promulgating the venom I won't bother linking it. If you have any interest in seeing those examples, you can doubtless find them youself very very easily with a few simple web searches. I don't want to bother linking them, but rest assured the violence ridden hate speech of the left is myriad, pervasive, and all too common. Do not take my reticence as evidence that I'm somehow making it up. I am more than prepared to supply evidence A-Go-Go, but I'd rather not in the interest of avoiding the standard "Oh yeah well someone else says THIS" syndrome that inevitably follows. This is not the time for it, and it is an all too easy trap to fall into. I do not deny there is some violent rhetoric from a few jerkwads on the right. It is foolishness to deny that there isn't just as much violent rhetoric from the jerkwads on the left.

Excuse both sides if you wish. Or condemn both sides if you wish. But let no one pretend that such rhetoric exists in a bubble on only one side of the aisle. That is the talk of a partisan fool.

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Winstonfield_Pennypacker says...

For another example besides JS of how to discuss the tragedy with a little class was Barak Obama's speech tonight. If only the rabid wolves and wombats of the media would do as he suggests then maybe things would calm down a little. Sorta doubt that'll happen though. The media on both sides is addicted to angry rhetoric like a drug. Here's hoping...

Violent? You can't honestly believe that.

I do not 'believe' it. I KNOW it is fact because I've seen and heard it.

In the interest of not promulgating the venom I won't bother linking it. If you have any interest in seeing those examples, you can doubtless find them youself very very easily with a few simple web searches. I don't want to bother linking them, but rest assured the violence ridden hate speech of the left is myriad, pervasive, and all too common. Do not take my reticence as evidence that I'm somehow making it up. I am more than prepared to supply evidence A-Go-Go, but I'd rather not in the interest of avoiding the standard "Oh yeah well someone else says THIS" syndrome that inevitably follows. This is not the time for it, and it is an all too easy trap to fall into. I do not deny there is some violent rhetoric from a few jerkwads on the right. It is foolishness to deny that there isn't just as much violent rhetoric from the jerkwads on the left.

Excuse both sides if you wish. Or condemn both sides if you wish. But let no one pretend that such rhetoric exists in a bubble on only one side of the aisle. That is the talk of a partisan fool.

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How to Deal with the Police (part 1 of 4)

csnel3 says...

I don't have any answers on a better way to deal with cops. I was just commenting on what I felt as I watched this video.I know its best just do as you are told by the police. I also know that doesnt always make it right. I have had some bad dealings with the police, never any major trouble, but enough to know that they can be liars and power tripping dickheads who know they can getaway with almost anything. I think its sad that we all know that cops are bad news, and are instructed to learn how to deal with it.
"we know that if you run, cops will shoot you" is a good example, running is now a capitol offense that requires deadly force? Running is a bad idea, curling up in the fetal posistion and pissing youself is the safest action when the police approach. (and No, i dont really reccomend it). >> ^longde:
Except we know that if you run, the cops will shoot you.
I see the disconnect here. Let me explain. The people in this video trust the cops and the legal system much less than you. Their objective is to leave any police encounter alive, with limbs intact, and without some arbitrary felony thrown at them.
So, they're not hoping for the best, they are trying to prevent the worst.
For all your cynicism, I haven't heard any better ways from you to deal with cops. What advice would you give these people.>> ^csnel3:
I think we all watched the same video. I admit I question things more than normal.
This rang of a video that the authorities would like to play for all the children everyday at the beginning of school. They tell you you have rights, this is comforting, then they tell you the proper way to be arrested and or released, depending on what the police decide to do with you. Wrong or right, just follow these steps and the police will have an easier time with you, and maybe you will recieve some kind of repreve, or not.
I know that the police will lie to us, and do whatever they want, regardless of our rights. I also know they will lie to each other, the court system, and the media, to be able to do and say anything they want. For the most part, once they are in control of you, it doesnt matter what you say about your rights. The video even states that the cops hate people who say they have rights and be prepared for the shitstorm if you go down that road. It's better to shut-up and obey.
I always try to be polite and cooperate, even though I really dislike and distrust the police.
Sometimes I just feel, Rights or not, Run!! Serpintine!Serpintine!Serpintine! dont look back.go go go.
Or just do as this vid says and hope for the best.


How to Deal with the Police (part 1 of 4)

longde says...

Except we know that if you run, the cops will shoot you.

I see the disconnect here. Let me explain. The people in this video trust the cops and the legal system much less than you. Their objective is to leave any police encounter alive, with limbs intact, and without some arbitrary felony thrown at them.

So, they're not hoping for the best, they are trying to prevent the worst.

For all your cynicism, I haven't heard any better ways from you to deal with cops. What advice would you give these people.>> ^csnel3:

I think we all watched the same video. I admit I question things more than normal.
This rang of a video that the authorities would like to play for all the children everyday at the beginning of school. They tell you you have rights, this is comforting, then they tell you the proper way to be arrested and or released, depending on what the police decide to do with you. Wrong or right, just follow these steps and the police will have an easier time with you, and maybe you will recieve some kind of repreve, or not.
I know that the police will lie to us, and do whatever they want, regardless of our rights. I also know they will lie to each other, the court system, and the media, to be able to do and say anything they want. For the most part, once they are in control of you, it doesnt matter what you say about your rights. The video even states that the cops hate people who say they have rights and be prepared for the shitstorm if you go down that road. It's better to shut-up and obey.
I always try to be polite and cooperate, even though I really dislike and distrust the police.
Sometimes I just feel, Rights or not, Run!! Serpintine!Serpintine!Serpintine! dont look back.go go go.
Or just do as this vid says and hope for the best.

How to Deal with the Police (part 1 of 4)

csnel3 says...

I think we all watched the same video. I admit I question things more than normal.
This rang of a video that the authorities would like to play for all the children everyday at the beginning of school. They tell you you have rights, this is comforting, then they tell you the proper way to be arrested and or released, depending on what the police decide to do with you. Wrong or right, just follow these steps and the police will have an easier time with you, and maybe you will recieve some kind of repreve, or not.
I know that the police will lie to us, and do whatever they want, regardless of our rights. I also know they will lie to each other, the court system, and the media, to be able to do and say anything they want. For the most part, once they are in control of you, it doesnt matter what you say about your rights. The video even states that the cops hate people who say they have rights and be prepared for the shitstorm if you go down that road. It's better to shut-up and obey.
I always try to be polite and cooperate, even though I really dislike and distrust the police.
Sometimes I just feel, Rights or not, Run!! Serpintine!Serpintine!Serpintine! dont look back.go go go.
Or just do as this vid says and hope for the best.

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