Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Hey Throbbin- we've got someone who is looking to poll for a channel approval- I'm going to remove this one so they can. In general - from the guidelines:

Create a poll to:
get community input on questions or ideas related to VideoSift
question points of Sift etiquette
plan a real life meetup
consider other constructive concepts related to the community

*discard

Hulu is not available in Thailand, but I can't invoke blocked (not sure on the etiquette anyway). I did a quick YouTube search and found audio streams, but no video unless I follow handy comment links to "premium" video site = $. Anyone have alternates?

An internet classic, but it's already on the sift: http://www.videosift.com/video/Male-Restroom-Etiquette-956

>> ^dag:
Upvote for the discussion.
I'm upset not by the depth, but at how crappily he executed the bow - with the sculiotiic spine and tandem handshake. I expected him to be schooled a bit better on a proper Japanese bow before the meeting.

I agree. Straighten your damn back and don't show the back of your head! I've shown the back of my head exactly once and it was because I'd messed up pretty good before hand.

Still, to be fair, as a Westerner you can't help but be aware that you suck at bowing no matter how many times you've done it. But I believe the important point is that you're at least trying to show good etiquette. All this outrage over bowing is so obviously fabricated for ignorant people that anyone criticisizing him for this should be embarrassed that they're so easily manipulated.

I notice that Obama very precisely matched the Japanese etiquette for such a meeting, too. A bow that left his head significantly lower than the emperor's, while the bow to the emperor's wife he kept his head slightly higher (she's still just a woman after all).

Smart Republicans would be making hay over Obama adhering to a sexist practice, instead they pretend like bowing before foreign royalty is somehow wrong.

*news
*future

Does anyone know the sift etiquette for multi-part videos?
I feel cheap getting 2 star points for 1 subject. (very presumptuous i know)

I agree with those channels, thanks. I'm still a bit puzzled by channel declaring etiquette.

This video has been declared a duplicate; transferring votes to the original video and killing this dupe - dupeof declared by EndAll.

*dupeof=http://www.videosift.com/video/Male-Restroom-Etiquette-956

http://www.videosift.com/video/Male-Restroom-Etiquette-956

sorry dc

Is it bad etiquette for a noob to ask how a video could be re-up'd, put back in the vote que?

What I mean is I voted for this vid, it's neato , but think it deserves another chance as well.

From what I've read only a gold star member can do that?

>> ^thepinky:
EDIT: I got the needed nerdy assistance.

Hey, watch those epithets against people who know HTML. After all, comic book nerds might be clueless about them, and it's conceivable that in this day and age cool people might know the basics.

>> ^imstellar28:
thepinky wrote:
"I think that most of us believe that violence against the weak is more wrong than violence against the strong"
I agree with what you are saying, but you are wording it in a misleading way. Its not more wrong because of the inherent "weakness" of each person, it is more wrong because the same act of violence will cause more damage to a weaker person.

I both love and hate how you always present your opinions as if you're explaining the fundamental facts of the universe. I don't disagree with the idea that conflict between unequal parties is inherently unfair, and that when we're talking about violent conflict, the damage can be much, much worse (see the above clip, plus the Iraq wars).

Thing is, I don't think it's correct to call it sexist to feel that male-on-female violence is more wrong. Here's what the scholarly inflatablevagina had to say about the female point of view:

>> ^inflatablevagina:
I think a good thing to think about when viewing this video is how men and women deal with conflict differently. Ask any teenage girl.. more often than not, if you piss off a girl she will attack you emotionally. Guys attack each other physically more often than not. On a certain level we don't expect anyone to get physical with us because, for the most part, we would rather ruin you from the inside out. It can be much more effective.


Much as we're taught to instinctively deny the differences between man and women these days, the truth is that men and women truly have different ways of looking at social interaction. Perhaps that's a product of culture more than biology, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a mix of both.

I think given the differences between men and women and their approach to conflict resolution, I think the general societal expectation -- sometimes phrased as "real men don't hit women" -- is merely a recognition of the fact that men and women deal with conflict differently. The idea being that when men have a conflict with a woman, they should restrain their impulse to physical violence, since women aren't generally encouraged to have fistfights over disagreements the way men are.

I don't see that as sexist, I see that as a rule of etiquette. Polite men are expected to behave differently in the company of women than they would in the company of men. I don't see anything discriminatory about that at all.

Therefore, it's "more wrong", because you're breaking the rules of social interaction, as well as breaking more fundamental rules like "don't hurt people". I'd still feel that him attacking her was extra wrong, even if she did some cool martial arts move, and knocked him on his ass and hadn't been harmed at all.

I think we should reserve the word sexism for behaviors that treat one sex as being of less value than the other, as opposed to social mores that help the differing cultures of men and women learn to live together in peace.

Saying that men hitting women is "more wrong" because women are naturally weaker seems like the more sexist explanation, even if on average it is true.

Climbing up on Solsbury Hill
I could see the city light
Wind was blowing, time stood still
Eagle flew out of the night
He was something to observe
Came in close, I heard a voice
Standing stretching every nerve
Had to listen had no choice
I did not believe the information
I just had to trust imagination
My heart going boom boom boom
"Son," he said "Grab your things,
I've come to take you home."

To keep in silence I resigned
My friends would think I was a nut
Turning water into wine
Open doors would soon be shut
So I went from day to day
Tho' my life was in a rut
"Till I thought of what I'd say
Which connection I should cut
I was feeling part of the scenery
I walked right out of the machinery
My heart going boom boom boom
"Hey" he said "Grab your things
I've come to take you home."
(Back home.)

When illusion spin her net
I'm never where I want to be
And liberty she pirouette
When I think that I am free
Watched by empty silhouettes
Who close their eyes but still can see
No one taught them etiquette
I will show another me
Today I don't need a replacement
I'll tell them what the smile on my face meant
My heart going boom boom boom
"Hey" I said "You can keep my things,
They've come to take me home."

>> ^Ornthoron:
I too am getting a little annoyed at the rush of polls having nothing to do with the Sift, since I was planning to start a poll about something siftwhile. The FAQ has this to say about polls:
Create a poll to:
get community input on questions or ideas related to VideoSift
question points of Sift etiquette
plan a real life meetup
consider other constructive concepts related to the community

I was planning to bitch about it too, but I didn't want to be a partypooper like rottenseed.

I shit on parties for a living, so for me it's just another day in the office.

I too am getting a little annoyed at the rush of polls having nothing to do with the Sift, since I was planning to start a poll about something siftwhile. The FAQ has this to say about polls:

Create a poll to:

* get community input on questions or ideas related to VideoSift
* question points of Sift etiquette
* plan a real life meetup
* consider other constructive concepts related to the community

I was planning to bitch about it too, but I didn't want to be a partypooper like rottenseed.