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A Fascinatingly Disturbing Thought - Neil DeGrasse Tyson

kceaton1 says...

>> ^messenger:

@Deano
A thought experiment should have valid parameters. To me, it fails the moment it makes all those dubious assumptions about DNA differences.
I did love his point about Mars though. That's spot on. What scares me is that if true, it would Scientology look more reputable.


Well except for the Overlord, his large economy flier airplanes, and bombing volcanoes (plus there are only a few volcanoes that he can actually bomb in the first place; they just are not built ALL like the Hawaiian chain open caldera type of volcano). Plus I have to wonder, how did our primitive species as we were slowly migrating upwards in the DNA chain deal with all the bad juju stuff that was injected into the DNA sequencing line--and then eventually ended up in ours...?

I really don't think you have to worry at all. Except for the stupid people, they amazingly will believe ANYTHING and often do; like Obama's birth certificate not really being one.

/I actually know a birther here in Utah and I can tell you that I can give them ALL THE PROOF on why their belief is incorrect, including evidence. Yet they will not believe me; BUT if I change my STANCE in the middle of my proof and make something up ON THE SPOT instead supporting them--they believe me!!! So I know what you believe is far more important than the truth and this is true EVEN for smart people. It's rare to find people that will switch positions on the spot--I think due to a lot of pride.

Chain of Fools : Upgrading Through Every Version of Windows

kceaton1 says...

>> ^sirex:

geeky, saliva heavy nasally voice; check !
"People need to realize that somewhere towards the end of Vista and into Windows 7 Microsoft has taken their crappy old software and made it work extremely well" -- I assume by this you mean "now when things crash the desktop is reloaded quickly".


I'm sorry you're screwing yourself out of a good PC experience. Best of luck.


In Kind,
Person That Doesn't Install Every Program Possible From Every Site They Visit Using Legacy Hardware From 1994


P.S.- When a program crashes nowadays you're pretty much guaranteed that they caused the error. Strangely enough Windows (and Mac OS) both refresh their desktops when leaving a program--funny; I wonder why.
P.S.S.- If I come across as a, "geeky, saliva heavy nasally voice" and I am a geek; but, you come across as a, "mouth breather". No hard feelings, right?

/Sorry, I have to do that, it's written into my DNA sequences.

Stephen Fry On Who Do You Think You Are

cybrbeast says...

>> ^chilaxe:

Recreational genealogy seems have a strong pull, but it seems almost as meaningless as astrology.
You only share 12.5% of your genes with each of your 8 great-grandparents, and genes can have very different effects depending on which other genes are present. If you want to know who you are, look at yourself, not your great-grandparents or anybody else.


That is true, but you should also consider possible effects from epigenetics.

Read the wiki entry, it's quite fascinating.

Excerpt from wiki:
In biology, and specifically genetics, epigenetics is the study of inherited changes in phenotype (appearance) or gene expression caused by mechanisms other than changes in the underlying DNA sequence, hence the name epi- (Greek: επί- over, above) -genetics. These changes may remain through cell divisions for the remainder of the cell's life and may also last for multiple generations. However, there is no change in the underlying DNA sequence of the organism;[1] instead, non-genetic factors cause the organism's genes to behave (or "express themselves") differently.

Dana Carvey is: DARWIN

BicycleRepairMan says...

>> ^IAmTheBlurr:

Hahhahaha! "My name is DarWIN... not DarLOSE!" Classic!


If only we had thought of this argument against creationists decades ago, we would have won for sure. The clear link between artificial selection and natural selection through the use of breeding, millions off fossils, near mathematical proof through DNA sequencing and the distribution of animals showing every sign of common descent doesnt stand a chance against such a kick-ass tagline

Robotic Dinosaurs - German Television

Time Magazine Gives Best Interview with Ron Paul - 9/17

GeeSussFreeK says...

>> ^Psychologic:
I've never seen Paul or Schiff talk about the inherent deflationary nature of information technologies in the context of Austrian Economics, despite their constant talk of inflation. The price of a given amount of processing power or data storage drops by a fairly consistent percent per year (on average)... the same is true for dna sequencing, solar power, or many other high-tech devices.
Maybe they don't think it's a big deal, but I've never even seen them mention it. Austrian Economics were formulated well before the information age, so I'm curious how these new trends fit into it.


Metal melt values are always a good indicator about inflation over the long history of time. Let us look at penny melt values. This would be a relation of the fiat value of a penny vs the market value of the copper.

http://mises.org/images4/3069figure1.jpg

The worst part of this is that the penny has been changed every so often with less and less copper (other coins as well). Soon, pennies will be filled with steal as that is one of the cheapest metals you can have. After that, it is the end of the line for a penny. What graphs and graphs like this show ( you can look it up for gold, silver, and nearly any other rareish earth metal) and the trend is the same, metal is more highly prized over time than US dollars. This eats away until the system snaps (like back in the currency crunch of 33 when the government outlawed gold...forced you to sell gold so the treasury could have something real to give dollars value after the failed works projects of the 30s.). Fiat currencies and currency under control of central bankers tends to eventually undermine itself. The world is complex and full of players and vested interests and various other things that make prediction along a specific time frame hard. You could have massive investment of a foreign saver nation rescue a monetary system from collapse (IE China to the USA). But when the music stops for debt, the game is up, you have to face the monster your created. And like most things, the longer you wait to fix it, the worse it will be at that time if finally needs mending.

You are also talking about two different ideas. Because tech gets cheaper doesn't mean there isn't inflation. Technology is fairly different from things like, say food, or metal. New processes make something more efficient to produce over its life cycle. Chips become cheaper because of size. The smaller it gets, the cheaper it can be produced and as consequence, more of them can be sold per unit of silicon wafer. If you ever wandered why smaller is better it is because silicon wafers have to be manufactured circular, it is part of the physic's of aligning the silicon molecules properly. However, chips are usually rectangular. This means that you have to throw away all the edge pieces that don't line up to make squares out of the main circle. This doesn't just scale linearly; the smaller you make a chip, the more of the silicon you use.

The same is kind of true of other techs. Hard drives use a similar shrinking so that less can do more. But a building isn't going to use much less material than it did 20 years ago. Also, inflation is really hard to place effectively when you have the government interfering with prices. When you distort prices by government hand out, it is hard to know what the value of something is. Lets take houses for starters. When the government was handing out nearly free money for housing stuff, the market inflated. House prices when up by 50% a year in some areas. This bubble finally burst along with some other bad lone stuff. The prices of homes have fallen dramatically in most areas, but this isn't "deflation", this is a market readjustment.

In other words, the ideas of metals and stuff still apply to tech. Tech is neat in the way that new advancements mean you can do more with less. (same for DNA stuff, as tech gets more advanced, the less you have to play people and computer time to do the same amount of work).

As for their predictions, Shiffs has been saying for years watch out for the bubble burst. He also predicted that the stock and gold values would merge before we saw the end of the stock tumble, which it pretty much did.

Psychologic (Member Profile)

cdominus says...

In reply to this comment by Psychologic:
I've never seen Paul or Schiff talk about the inherent deflationary nature of information technologies in the context of Austrian Economics, despite their constant talk of inflation. The price of a given amount of processing power or data storage drops by a fairly consistent percent per year (on average)... the same is true for dna sequencing, solar power, or many other high-tech devices.

Maybe they don't think it's a big deal, but I've never even seen them mention it. Austrian Economics were formulated well before the information age, so I'm curious how these new trends fit into it.


This may help.
http://mises.org/story/1040
tl;dr Increases in efficiency and productivity outweigh increase in money supply. If that can be believed!

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Psychologic says...

I've never seen Paul or Schiff talk about the inherent deflationary nature of information technologies in the context of Austrian Economics, despite their constant talk of inflation. The price of a given amount of processing power or data storage drops by a fairly consistent percent per year (on average)... the same is true for dna sequencing, solar power, or many other high-tech devices.

Maybe they don't think it's a big deal, but I've never even seen them mention it. Austrian Economics were formulated well before the information age, so I'm curious how these new trends fit into it.

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Psychologic says...

Here's my current take on it:

Low-skill jobs are disappearing, but the jobs that are being created require higher education. Someone displaced by automation won't necessarily have a new job available to them at their skill/education level. Sure, they can learn, but that can take years. I'm fairly confident that we will see employment problems with this section of society.

Currently we do need people to repair robots, but what happens when we develop robots that can repair other robots? We will need people to design them, but not to build or maintain them. The design process has also become much easier through tech, requiring far fewer people than even ten years ago. Software design teams are decreasing in size and increasing in productivity.


Will this lead to widespread poverty? I doubt it, but it depends on how we handle it. I expect to see a lot of deflationary pressures as more and more sectors of the economy move to information technology. This is already happening in many areas, such as the cost for a given amount of processing power, information storage, dna sequencing, etc. This will ultimately affect basic essentials like food and medical care, so even the unemployed will eventually be above the poverty line (depending on the definition at the time).

Assuming we don't destroy ourselves in the process, our future is quite bright. The problem is the adjustment process. Our world is changing at a pace never seen before by the human race... we'll see how it goes.

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Arsenault185 (Member Profile)

jwray says...

1. The human appendix is a useless vestigial organ. Vestigial organs and junk DNA are great evidence against "intelligent design".
2. Humanity did not stop evolving. It is still evolving, like every other species. Most people are born with a few mutations that were not present in either parent (this has been verified by DNA sequencing). Many of these mutations cause no change in phenotype because they affect junk DNA.
3. Dog breeding. There is DNA and archaeological evidence that all species of domesticated dogs (from chihuauas to Lassie) and grey wolves have a recent common ancestor. Actual experiments have been done in which a few decades of of selective breeding led lead to large changes.


In reply to this comment by arsenault185:
>> ^budzos:
Such an ignorant dumb fuck. The horror is that most people think the way this guy does. They see no difference between the big bang, abiogenesis, evolution, etc. because anything that goes "against god" is all part of the same crackpot theory to them.


Ignorant dumb fuck? Well, since he was able to mention 3 separate theories, then i would have to say hes not ignorant. Dumb? meh. He couldn't formulate a sentence to save his life. Fuck? yeah hes a fuck for giving creationists a bad name.

There is plenty of scientific fact to prove God and plenty to disprove and support evolution, life seeding, or other methods.

The biggest one that comes into my head is, if evolution were true, than large series of small mutations would have had to take place over millions of years. Well, in recorded history, there have been very few if any, mutations that led to a positive change in the biological make up of an organism. However, there have been more than enough mutations to argue against evolution. Heres a video that shows such mutations. Granted some of these may have been caused my chemicals and shit, affecting the fetal development, but things like this also occur in nature.
Now humans have evidently peaked in what we are capable of "evolving" to despite what Heroes and X-Men have to say. Because after thousands and thousands of years of recorded history, there seem to be no further evolutions, besides from rare genetic abnormalities, which are good for nothing more than conversation starters.

So if evolution is real, in the sense that man is "the retarded offspring of 5 monkeys having butt-sex with a fish-squirrel," then why did we stop evolving? Evolutionists say that evolution took place over millions of years. But man has only been around for a fraction of that. That means that the "missing link" isn'/t that far behind us, and was more than likely around for a long time as well. Another hole to the evolution theory is the "missing link" itself. Its not like there were only one or two of these man-apes. There had to be thousands of them in order to generate a populace capable of surviving the thousands of years it took to evolve into humans. So why is it we cant find them? What the hell is this about?

I could go on forever. You wont catch me berating others for their beliefs, even thought they might differ from mine. So to call some one an "Ignorant dumb fuck" for not agreeing with you, doesn't exactly help your argument.

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k8_fan says...

In the world of GATTACA (the name is composed of the letters used in a DNA sequence - GATC), a system to destroy all body debris would be very useful. When DNA alone is used for identity (in the film, guards barely looked at his ID), swiping someone's DNA is as good as swiping their wallet and PINs. DNA analyzers are common in that world, and Ronco probably makes a home device to perform Polymerase Chain Reaction. An incinerator to get rid of all of one's loose hairs and skin flakes would be a very good idea.

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