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I think this is both right and wrong...natural selection CAN be even faster (but is not always) at forcing evolutionary change than 'breeding for traits' is, because breeders are not perfect and may allow unwanted traits or incomplete but wanted traits to continue, but nature is a horrible bitch goddess and if your traits really don't work for her, you simply die. That's certainly not always the case, but when it is nature is better at 'selecting' than humans. The rate of reproduction makes either process move faster.
It's true that humans have artificially created more breeds than nature would likely create alone, because we sometimes like traits that would hinder survival and through breeding amplify them to create a 'new breed'.
Nature forces the one's most suited for their environment to thrive, while humans often allow those less suited to live in their environment to survive for human reasons, erasing natural selection from the equation. Without our 'guiding hand' in their evolution, I think it's likely they would likely have even MORE change in some areas (and less in others) because environments are drastically different and different traits would evolve in different places, creating different 'dogs' such as wild dogs in Africa and/or dingos in Australia, which I think (but may be wrong) have evolved so separately that they can't breed with non-"wild dogs". It may lead to less variation in specific areas/populations, but more variation between those from different areas.

DUDE! DRIVE! THERE'S A DINGO OUT THERE!!!

Dingo ate my iPhone.

Dingo ate my baby!!

So I assume this is mostly the same cast as Frisky Dingo?

Very clever! Just like... people. Notice how they cover their tracks? That implies cause/effect reasoning ability, although most likely a learned behavior passed from adults to young after generations and generations of happenstance trial and error. It's a stretch, but the strange noises they were making could almost be likened to language of some sort. I suspect they could even be taught to sign. Amazing they have been able to overcome barriers very similar to those even the very clever dingos of Australia have yet to breach. One can almost imagine us hundreds of thousands of years ago, migrating with the seasons, learning to cooperate as communities, the strongest of our ancestors surviving the harshness of a truly natural life and passing their genes to the generations to come as we began our long, slow journey toward ignorance, arrogance, and indifference.

>> ^dannym3141:

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I believe that a sane dog's temperament is dependent upon the owner, not its size or breed (within reason - i wouldn't immediately assume something like a dingo could be raised domestically).


I'm glad you qualified that. Some dogs are bat-shit demented when they first pop out and hit the ground.

You know, i sort of half notice in slow motion that half of the time, when i'd ordinarily think my dog and another dog were getting a bit frisky, they look like a bit like they're practising but making sure not to connect, or land a bite. Interesting.

Also, @jmd, at the beach near me, loads and loads of all different sorts of dogs get together and play. There's a bit of a roughing every so often, but no appendage loss, and i'm talking all kinds of dogs - couple of pit bulls, doberman, etc.. in my experience there are two times you need to be alert around other dogs - 1) if your dog is feeling threatened, separate it 2) if you see someone with a dog who's carrying it, or got it leashed and acting scared when another dog approaches, the dog is gonna behave the same (and dogs don't often choose the flight response).

My dog is a big, muscular dog. But he's the dog that people let rescue dogs or young puppies play with to get them used to the idea that big dogs are playful, not threatening Yeah, i'm proud of him.. people time their walks to coincide with his.

I believe that a sane dog's temperament is dependent upon the owner, not its size or breed (within reason - i wouldn't immediately assume something like a dingo could be raised domestically).

>> ^artician:

Love the tail wagging, like he's thinking - "this shit is working!"


I like how his buddy is all "OH HAI! Thank you! I'll just... oh right... you're Alpha... soz, soz... my bad."