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The Difference Between The UK, Great Britain, and England

noims says...

This is mostly ok, but from an Irish point of view there are a few things that made me cringe a little.

Firstly the term the 'British Isles' isn't universally recognised, but I admit any alternatives I've heard don't exactly trip off the tongue.

Secondly, a statement like Ireland "joining" the UK in 1801 glosses over some pretty important details.

Worst of all, though, is the way he pronounces Edinburgh. It's still making me squirm.

Lilithia (Member Profile)

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DerHasisttot says...

The metaphor of an endangered species of duck is still apt.


No. It is not an apt comparison, you should stop using it, thinking in these brackets and stop listening to whomever told you this crap:


1. Human beings are at the top of the food chain, intelligent, social and able to make babies with one another, as previously stated.

2. Ducks can be saved by humans because humans can save ducks because: point 1. Ducks cannot form eco-departments of duck governments to save other ducks. Because they are fucking ducks. Certain species of ducks cannot breed with other species of ducks. Because they are actually different in more ways than colour. So saving a certain species of duck makes sense for biodiversity and etc. Also, plants and whatnot.

3. Now: Human beings of whatever colour, culture or other dividing feature your racist brain cooks up, are NOT DUCKS. They are all equally human. All. Equally. Let it sink in. Aaaalll. Eeeequaally. Not one single person is above another.

The above considered, I plead that because a particular civilization finds itself below replacement level it is in a perilous state and merits attention. This is a conclusion that, again, assumes an overreaching, unfettered respect for diversity.


There it is again, the racism. See point 3 for physical racism. Now to your cultural racism: "Civilisations," cultures, religions are NOT DUCKS. They are collective constructs. They diminish, they go inert. You can look at them in museums. Because there are almost always remnants and relics. But cultures are never dead. They are not murdered, driven away by evil muslims, outbred or dying off.

Cultures go on in the following cultures. They are absorbed. They are mixed. They are in flux. As I mentioned before. Cultures change. It is inevitable. A few hundred years ago, German was spoken on the British isles. It mingled with Scandinavian, Celtic and french languages and cultures --> English.

You must extend your own desire to protect a unique given species to the right of a nation to maintain its own identifying characteristics. Realize that the desire for prosperity and sustained existence of a nation does not by definition mandate the impingement on another.

Bullshit. Any nation's "identifying characteristics" did not exist 200 years ago and will not exist in 200 years time. It doesn't even need an outside influence to do it. It happens. "Nations" do not have a right to maintain characteristics. Those which tried, failed. We live in a globally connected world now in which ideas, culture, science and knowledge can be shared freely. Look at yourself being lectured at by a post-racial, post-fascist human being on the internet. Whatever culture you belong to, it changed a lot and it will keep changing a lot. This is called progress. Otherwise we'd all be talking a babylonian language.


On the other hand, if like GenjiKilpatrick you harbour a sense that "whites" deserve to be eradicated because of who they are... you're barely human.


As far as I can see here, he never said such a thing. This is your irrational fearful racist mind at work. Try to look outside your head. I guess you misread this: Not to mention - Adult White Males have been the most privileged, self-entitled, killin' & manipulating "lesser" cultures type homo sapiens on the planet for a few centuries now, at least.
He says that white men were basically "in charge." Nowhere does he call for an eradication.

And again you are calling a fiction of your own "barely human". I do not think it, Genji does not think it. This is your racist mind creating fictions you can lash out at. Try to see how your own fears are all without merit. Group B will not destroy anyone's culture. They will enhance it. As they have done before. And Group A will enhance them. As they have done before. In fact, there are no group A or B. Just humans with interchanging, intermingling cultures. Stop thinking in black and white. In every aspect.

Reefie (Member Profile)

quantumushroom says...

CHEERS!

In reply to this comment by Reefie:
I should've added a after my comment, reckon by now people on both sides of the pond are used to sparring over spelling differences and treat it more as a tongue in cheek sport

In reply to this comment by quantumushroom:
I meant no offense and was joking.

Besides, everyone knows the favorite spelling of favourite is favouЯite.

In reply to this comment by Reefie:
@quantumushroom Those of us from the British Isles tend to spell words correctly because we've been using this language a hell of a lot longer than residents of other countries around the world. Coincidentally did you know that the English language originated in England? Yes I know, how bizarre!

Reefie (Member Profile)

quantumushroom says...

I meant no offense and was joking.

Besides, everyone knows the favorite spelling of favourite is favouЯite.

In reply to this comment by Reefie:
@quantumushroom Those of us from the British Isles tend to spell words correctly because we've been using this language a hell of a lot longer than residents of other countries around the world. Coincidentally did you know that the English language originated in England? Yes I know, how bizarre!

ЯEPUBLICANS Я SMAЯT

quantumushroom says...

I wasn't there and can only guess what these folks meant. But this ANALsys will be way smarter than lefty insults.



Guy #1 "Obama has no idea how serious this is." ----Agree. This a power-vacuum that will likely be filled by radical muslim vermin.

Guy #2 "Obama has no idea what a Republic is." ----possibly referring to Obama's "unawareness" that there is no stable government to replace the dictator

Guy #3 "No coherent message from the White House/No one seems to know what's going on --self-evident

Woman "Obama's religious beliefs govern his foreign policy" ---disagree. Obama has no foreign policy, except to apologize for the US and turn a cold shoulder to our allies

Same woman/half of crowd - "He's a Muslim". ---Obama claims he's a Christian. If you take him at his word, he's the most Muslim-sympathetic Christian President besides Carter (BTW, the majority here at atheisift likely sees Obama's Christianity as a sham or character defect, so what's the big deal either way)?

Guy # 4 -- "His religious belief is liberalism" ---- Obama has faith in liberalism above all religions. Sure seems like it.

Guy #5 --"He's NOT a practicing Muslim. He is a Muslim sympathizer." And a Muslim apologist.

Blue Shirt Guy -- "His religion is liberalism, the most intolerant religion of all." If you're on the left this won't make any sense. Yet it's correct. Ever see how the left treats 'heretical' conservative minorities?

Plaid woman - "It's possible he's Muslim though he claims to be a Christian." ---less important than the observation that he's "waffling on both sides"----certainly not the first politician to do so.

Stache' --"He's an appeaser." Absolutely. No historical reference to Chamberlain necessary.

Glasses Chick -- "He gives textbook answers." ---She done goofed. 'Textbook answers' means "the most examined and correct answers possible" She probably meant Teleprompted answers, aka canned responses.

Next Guy -- "The crisis snuck up on (Obama) and he was unprepared." ---Agree

Glasses Chick -- "He doesn't know what to do....he 'never' knows what to do." ----Obama only knows what HE will do, whether or not it causes harm. If he 'never' knew what to do he'd be slightly less of a threat.

No Tie Guy -- "I think he believes America's at fault for the world's problems. I think he doesn't see the good America does in the world." This man is guilty of plagiarising Rule #1 from the Liberal Handbook.



Of course you're free to judge these folks as you see fit, just as I don't have to wait for Egypt to fall under the shadows of minarets on His Earness's watch to judge him.





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@quantumushroom Those of us from the British Isles tend to spell words correctly because we've been using this language a hell of a lot longer than residents of other countries around the world. Coincidentally did you know that the English language originated in England? Yes I know, how bizarre!

I meant no offense and was joking.

Besides, everyone knows the favorite spelling of favourite is favouЯite.

ЯEPUBLICANS Я SMAЯT

Reefie says...

@quantumushroom Those of us from the British Isles tend to spell words correctly because we've been using this language a hell of a lot longer than residents of other countries around the world. Coincidentally did you know that the English language originated in England? Yes I know, how bizarre!

QI - Hilarious Moment: People from Scotland

TickTock says...

I got your point... and in the past you would have been correct. This video, and following replies have honestly set me straight. No getting down on anyone because of some artifical line in the sand for me after this. I'M A NEW MAN!

"Actually I'm from Canadian, but America is pretty close and let's face it, we're all pretty similar once you cut through all that bullshit!"

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^Shepppard:
>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^TickTock:
I love how the English guys are getting down on the Scot. It's an interesting reflection of the state of the world. Geographically, they are so close, but they seem to think they are so different. Drop all of them in downtown Shanghai or Bagdad and no one there would be able to tell them apart.
Give it up, you're all from the UK. In the other 99% of the world no one gives a shit. Move on.

Lol. What i love even more is that you're apparently not from the UK yet making an uneducated statement about the relationship between english/scottish based on jokes about the stereotypical scottish person/stereotypical english person.
Say what you like about our love/hate relationship, but we all died alongside each other protecting the Great!!! British Isles whilst the rest of the (new) world was busy turning a quick profit off the situation and waiting for the winner to be decided. They're all my brothers and sisters and whilst i may make a joke about them, and they may make a joke about me, there's no one finer, braver or tougher i'd rather trust my joint national safety to.
If i said exactly what you said about about americans/canadaians (you're american, right?), you'd bawl your eyes out!

Dear sir:
Go fuck yourself.
~Signed
A Canadian from the "new world" whose ancestors faught and died during BOTH world wars to protect your right to make generalizations about cultures outside of the British Isles.
So, just for fun, while I may not agree with TickTocks statement, Here's a neat picture showing the idiocy of comparing England/Scotland, to Canada/United States. (yes, that's Australia, UK, and U.S., but it gets the point across)
Even more perspective on that, total of area of the UK (Scotland and obviously included) = 244,820 km km/sq.
Ontario, one of canadas smaller provinces, has an area of 917,741 km/sq.
One Canadian province is larger than both your countries combined. So, no, if you said the same thing about Americans/Canadians, I'd probably laugh at you for making such a stupid comparison.

--> "If i said exactly what you said about about americans/canadaians (you're american, right?), you'd bawl your eyes out!"
--> "If i said exactly what"
--> "If i said"
--> "If"
I think that's my point proven right there! Sorry you had to get in the firing line of my insulting generalisation, but that was the point.

QI - Hilarious Moment: People from Scotland

dannym3141 says...

>> ^Shepppard:

>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^TickTock:
I love how the English guys are getting down on the Scot. It's an interesting reflection of the state of the world. Geographically, they are so close, but they seem to think they are so different. Drop all of them in downtown Shanghai or Bagdad and no one there would be able to tell them apart.
Give it up, you're all from the UK. In the other 99% of the world no one gives a shit. Move on.

Lol. What i love even more is that you're apparently not from the UK yet making an uneducated statement about the relationship between english/scottish based on jokes about the stereotypical scottish person/stereotypical english person.
Say what you like about our love/hate relationship, but we all died alongside each other protecting the Great!!! British Isles whilst the rest of the (new) world was busy turning a quick profit off the situation and waiting for the winner to be decided. They're all my brothers and sisters and whilst i may make a joke about them, and they may make a joke about me, there's no one finer, braver or tougher i'd rather trust my joint national safety to.
If i said exactly what you said about about americans/canadaians (you're american, right?), you'd bawl your eyes out!

Dear sir:
Go fuck yourself.
~Signed
A Canadian from the "new world" whose ancestors faught and died during BOTH world wars to protect your right to make generalizations about cultures outside of the British Isles.
So, just for fun, while I may not agree with TickTocks statement, Here's a neat picture showing the idiocy of comparing England/Scotland, to Canada/United States. (yes, that's Australia, UK, and U.S., but it gets the point across)
Even more perspective on that, total of area of the UK (Scotland and obviously included) = 244,820 km km/sq.
Ontario, one of canadas smaller provinces, has an area of 917,741 km/sq.
One Canadian province is larger than both your countries combined. So, no, if you said the same thing about Americans/Canadians, I'd probably laugh at you for making such a stupid comparison.


--> "If i said exactly what you said about about americans/canadaians (you're american, right?), you'd bawl your eyes out!"
--> "If i said exactly what"
--> "If i said"
--> "If"

I think that's my point proven right there! Sorry you had to get in the firing line of my insulting generalisation, but that was the point.

QI - Hilarious Moment: People from Scotland

Shepppard says...

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^TickTock:
I love how the English guys are getting down on the Scot. It's an interesting reflection of the state of the world. Geographically, they are so close, but they seem to think they are so different. Drop all of them in downtown Shanghai or Bagdad and no one there would be able to tell them apart.
Give it up, you're all from the UK. In the other 99% of the world no one gives a shit. Move on.

Lol. What i love even more is that you're apparently not from the UK yet making an uneducated statement about the relationship between english/scottish based on jokes about the stereotypical scottish person/stereotypical english person.
Say what you like about our love/hate relationship, but we all died alongside each other protecting the Great!!! British Isles whilst the rest of the (new) world was busy turning a quick profit off the situation and waiting for the winner to be decided. They're all my brothers and sisters and whilst i may make a joke about them, and they may make a joke about me, there's no one finer, braver or tougher i'd rather trust my joint national safety to.
If i said exactly what you said about about americans/canadaians (you're american, right?), you'd bawl your eyes out!


Dear sir:

Go fuck yourself.

~Signed
A Canadian from the "new world" whose ancestors faught and died during BOTH world wars to protect your right to make generalizations about cultures outside of the British Isles.

So, just for fun, while I may not agree with TickTocks statement, Here's a neat picture showing the idiocy of comparing England/Scotland, to Canada/United States. (yes, that's Australia, UK, and U.S., but it gets the point across)

Even more perspective on that, total of area of the UK (Scotland and obviously included) = 244,820 km km/sq.
Ontario, one of canadas smaller provinces, has an area of 917,741 km/sq.

One Canadian province is larger than both your countries combined. So, no, if you said the same thing about Americans/Canadians, I'd probably laugh at you for making such a stupid comparison.

QI - Hilarious Moment: People from Scotland

dannym3141 says...

>> ^TickTock:

I love how the English guys are getting down on the Scot. It's an interesting reflection of the state of the world. Geographically, they are so close, but they seem to think they are so different. Drop all of them in downtown Shanghai or Bagdad and no one there would be able to tell them apart.
Give it up, you're all from the UK. In the other 99% of the world no one gives a shit. Move on.


Lol. What i love even more is that you're apparently not from the UK yet making an uneducated statement about the relationship between english/scottish based on jokes about the stereotypical scottish person/stereotypical english person.

Say what you like about our love/hate relationship, but we all died alongside each other protecting the Great!!! British Isles whilst the rest of the (new) world was busy turning a quick profit off the situation and waiting for the winner to be decided. They're all my brothers and sisters and whilst i may make a joke about them, and they may make a joke about me, there's no one finer, braver or tougher i'd rather trust my joint national safety to.

If i said exactly what you said about about americans/canadaians (you're american, right?), you'd bawl your eyes out!

Gordon Brown Knows He's Fucked Now

alien_concept says...

>> ^Kerotan:

Because the primary job of an prime minster is to apologise, and gillian totally wasn't a bigot, and this is something that no other human on the British isles has done before, and there is certainly no chance that other party leaders do this on the campaign trail and don't get caught.
Enjoy a rare downvote.


Thanks?

Gordon Brown Knows He's Fucked Now

Kerotan says...

Because the primary job of an prime minster is to apologise, and gillian totally wasn't a bigot, and this is something that no other human on the British isles has done before, and there is certainly no chance that other party leaders do this on the campaign trail and don't get caught.

Enjoy a rare downvote.

TV crew wait for someone to slip on the ice

heathen says...

>> ^papple:
Yes, Dag, NI is within Great Britain.


Sorry, now you're arguing too far in the other direction.

Northern Ireland is within the United Kingdom, but not Great Britain.

'Great Britain' just means the largest of the British Isles. 'Great' being used in terms of size, not grandeur.
Great Britain consists of only England, Scotland and Wales.

>> ^papple:

But by all means, don't take my word for it. If you're ever in Ireland, please visit Cork and refer to the locals as "British". Please.


People are free to call themselves anything they wish. Personally I'm Welsh and hate it when Americans make the mistake of saying Wales is part of England, rather than Britain or the UK. However I believe if I'm to argue for accuracy in that respect then I have to be consistent.

Ireland is the second largest of the British Isles, it is a British Island, but not part of Great Britain.

As Videosift does not currently seem to have a Channel for Ireland it makes sense to me to include it in the British Channel.
Maybe a new Ireland Channel could be created and the British one re-named to Britain?



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