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They are real women, no matter how you wish otherwise.
Are men that take testosterone supplements not real males? Same for women taking estrogen, not real females? Women who’ve had a hysterectomy? Men who had penectomies or testicular removal?
Is this a “real woman” who should compete against women? https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/31662608/boxer-patricio-manuel-transgender-pioneer-looking-next-fight

What expertise in the fields of gender vs sex vs sexual orientation do you boast to contradict the actual experts with careers in those subjects?
A:None, you’re an alleged maintenance/service tech with embarrassing language skills, and apparently a total lack of scientific knowledge.

Where’s your evidence of that “disadvantage “? Where are the rest of the 2% of athletes that are top of their sport and trans? You make the claim, prove it (one example does not prove anything). Guess you failed math too.

That could be true if your loopy idea that men are pretending to be women to get an advantage in sports were in any way true, but it’s pure unadulterated nonsense.
Trans women must go through years of hormone therapy; supplements, hormone blockers, sometimes even surgery to be able to compete. In many leagues they must never go through male puberty. They cannot, as you clearly think is the norm, just put on a woman’s swimsuit and compete with women, then whip their dicks out after competition and go back to being macho men. Your insistence on keeping your head firmly encased in your lower intestine, in the dark, listening to yourself echo through your own fart chamber is what lets you believe such utterly ridiculous nonsense.

I think it’s abundantly clear to everyone which of us lives in an echo chamber of lies and nonsense and which of us thinks for themselves, and equally clear which prefers the light of knowledge and fact and which sticks to their dark cave of ignorance and misinformed opinion.

Er mer gerd…. ROTFLMFAHS!!! Mr cranial rectosis projects so freaking hard, yo.

Using people as a wedge is upsetting. I wish the right would stop, but their platform is based on mutual hatred of the “other”, so ostracism is a main tool for them.
Trying to secure the rights of Americans to compete in publicly funded sports is not creating a wedge, it’s being a civic American where tolerance and inclusion of those different from you is a cornerstone of our national identity.

No, that’s not common sense. It’s a red herring you would use to deny non binary people the right to participate. As I showed, divisions based on biological “sex” lead to men (biological women) like the boxer above fighting against girls. Is that more “fair”? Hardly.

Yes, trans people follow those rules, and must be hormone supplement free for years before being allowed to compete in most arenas. Non trans people have access to the same supplements, and also need to stop them before they can compete professionally. People naturally have different levels of hormones, we don’t force them to suppress or enhance them to compete, nor do we exclude those with medical needs for supplemented hormones…unless they’re trans. Red herring.

What genitalia you have has no bearing on your performance in sports, unless there are competitive orgies I’m unaware of.

One or two trans athletes being outstanding proves the point that there isn’t a noticeable advantage….otherwise every sport would be dominated by trans athletes….and that’s simply not the case. I bet statistical analysis would show trans athletes are not better, but worse on average than their non altered counterparts for many reasons.

Funny how denying a group their rights to participate (or exist?) in your eyes is “equality” and equitable.

Edit: How do you feel about hormone testing to decide which group you compete in? Too much testosterone, or not enough estrogen, compete with the “Ts”,…below the line on testosterone, or above the line on estrogen, compete with the “Es”. Or how about just separate by body mass index? Now is the problem solved? Do you concede that now the debate is settled? LMFAHS!!

In your biased, ignorant little mind it’s settled, not the real world where facts override your ignorant feelings and misconceptions and people’s rights to participate in publicly sponsored competition aren’t over ridden by ignorance and thinly veiled hatred.

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Here's an example that if the world operated the way Bob suggested I think this trans athlete would demolish the ladies if forced to play in the league for the gender on their birth certificate.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/transgender-boxer-face-everlast/story?id=65953232

So what he's really tryin to say is that trans athletes shouldn't be allowed to compete at all because they are unworthy of any kind of human dignity.


He's also assuming that testosterone = winning
Thanks Billie Jean King https://youtu.be/qqB3yi8MVbQ?t=7867

Crossed with a freight train.
If the Terminator had been black, I think we know who should have played him…but with no dialog.

It really makes this all the more horrific….
“It was when I fought Robin in Steve Lott’s apartment. She really offended me and I went BAM. She flew backwards, hitting every wall in the apartment,” Tyson recalled. “That was the best punch I’ve ever thrown in my entire life.”

*quality boxer….abject failure as a human being.

Wait, Katie Taylor is a boxer, why mention her under an MMA video?

I mean there is a lot of trash talking in boxing too, but boxing can be a reasonably sane competition, this MMA stuff is just imposibly stupid. If they could do what they pretend to be able to do, half of them would be dead after a fight. Either they are doing it wrong or its all just a show of pretense. No point watching that. A bit like being a "motor racing fan" just for the occasional bad crash.

Dont get me wrong you have to train hard and have some skill to do MMA (or "wrestling") it just is not a good competition format, its a show. Movie fights can be more fun.

Bullies don't deserve your sympathy.

I feel satisfied that if the bully was winning that sparing match he wouldn't have been so restrained, his prison record reinforces that theory.

The only obvious sign of brain injury I saw was the asshat driving an hour to try to bully a boxing coach. He wasn't pounding him in the head, he was more pushing him to the floor. I saw a boxer jabbing at 10% power vs an arrogant bully throwing haymakers who thought he's the toughest person around. Sometimes the only one who can teach humility is the ground.

I think he learned that lesson, he seemed like a good teacher to me.

I like the tune, but bro, put some clothes on. You don't have the body for going shirtless, nor the bulge for going just boxer/briefs.

"Hit me with her paws"

Must be a bit of boxer in her then, cause they are all about those front paws.

Boxers are the best dogs in existence.

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I'm concerned.

It's a boxer, it's awake, and it's not jumping on people licking any part of them it can reach.

Poor thing must feel ill.

An anthem that often has "brave" replaced with "chiefs". The flag that is worn as boxer shorts or used to sell cars. Good 'ol 'murican Paytrism.

Yah well, maybe there wouldn't be so much fuss if the POTUS wasn't trying to dictate to a company what their rules of conduct should be. NFL players aren't civil servants.

Unity by itself is no virtue. Nothing gets done by holding hands and singing some nationalist kumbayah. You sing your little song so you can feel like you are supporting vets while they come home from foreign lands and get...what? They can't pay their bills with your gestures.

Dare I say, ya'll missing the point. It's a getaway movie staring a 2006 Subaru WRX. Not an Austin, not an Audi, not a Jag. The folks acting take a back seat. Pretentious this is not, fun it is.

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That's a Boxer but.. I get it.