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Palestinian UN Ambassador At UN

newtboy says...

Edit: I misunderstood …. When you flee to somewhere you aren’t welcome, you invaded. That’s not characterization, it’s definition. If my home isn’t safe so I force my way into yours, I invaded your home…even if my friend down the street said it was ok.
It’s not a legitimate motive to invade a foreign country and murder, subjugate, and ghettoize its inhabitants because you aren’t safe where you live. There is no legitimate motive for those actions.

I think you take great liberty deciding the “Arab narrative”. That may be the Hamas narrative, it’s not the Palestinian’s history, and I think few claim it is. At first they were and acted like refugees, welcomed by Arab natives, some of which were Jews themselves, then shortly after began exponentially increasing immigration to overpower the natives, coming armed. They had no right to take by force food, shelter, and safety from those who had offered it to a much smaller portion of needy Jews…they in fact had an obligation to do the exact opposite and minimize their impact on their TEMPORARY HOSTS, and ensure their benefactors didn’t suffer for their generosity. This was not even a fleeting thought for the invaders.

The violent Zionists were intentionally courted and invited then supported and encouraged by those you say were “getting along”, so your point is misguided.

That native population was displaced by a concerted effort to forcibly immigrate en masse and seize control. The natives eventually balked, but too late and the overwhelming masses of armed violent Jewish invaders took over.

I’m in a camp that doesn’t give a shit about religion, they’re all idiotic nonsense, but believes in law and order, and invading people seizing control by force and dehumanizing the natives is not a thing I’m prepared to gloss over or erase with one sided details. I don’t gloss over my own country’s inhumane origins of genocidal racism against our natives, and I support any measure that returns anything they’ve been stripped of.

I’m also in a camp that doesn’t think it’s ok to murder and rape Peter to pay Paul for Patrick’s bill. The Palestinians bear zero responsibility for Jews treatment in Europe. None.

I’m also in a camp that believes “refugee” means you are a guest until you can return home, not a new citizen with more rights than natives.

The European Jews there are invaders acting terribly unreasonably, they’re very Trumpian in their actions, any slight against them is an excuse to go full bore Hitler against those kids with rocks.

I don’t “just declare invasion”. It was an invasion.
Foreign people came unwanted and illegally into the country and took over by force. That’s called an invasion in English by most definitions, and an invasion it was.
The forceful invaders are ALWAYS the bad guys, the oppressors are ALWAYS the bad guys, the expansionists are ALWAYS the bad guys. That describes all the Israeli people. They are the bad guys, whether they intended to be or not.

bcglorf said:

"Who the fuck cares what the reason they wanted to invadeflee was?"

Characterization matters a little here, no?

"They had a right to refugee status there, not to take control and possession by force"

Which is at the heart of things.

The Arab narrative is that Jews arrived guns loaded and set about pillaging, killing and invading as soon as they had sufficient numbers, while the poor domestic Arab population had only been trying to assist and welcome in the refugees...

Which is ahistorical propaganda.

The reality is that for the most part, the European Jews arriving in Palestine were refugees and acting like refugees. Meaning they mostly just wanted to be able to provide food, shelter and safety for the families, just like everyone else. Most of them tried to set about doing this by legally purchasing land.

Lots of the local Arabs similarly were content to get along.

At that same time though, there were hardcore Zionists among the Jewish arrivals AND there were xenophobic elements willing to use violence within the Arab population too.

The tensions rose as the populations rose, but largely as a result of a large people being displaced, and NOT as the planned invasion you describe. The local Arab population started to band together to refuse to work, trade or sell to Jews. Violence broke out instigated separately on smallish scales by BOTH sides. Escalating violence followed, again back and forth between sides.

I'm in a camp that has a hard time blaming either the domestic Arab population for distress at the huge influx of refugees, nor for the European Jewish people having a low tolerance for discrimination and violence directed there way solely for being Jewish.

I see it as a huge mess, but with two large populations of Jewish and Arab people in Palestine acting not terribly unreasonably under circumstances of extreme pressure.

I think it's lazy and convenient to just declare 'invasion' so that you can simplify it all down to right/wrong and good guy/bad guy....

newtboy (Member Profile)

BSR says...

You'd have to admit that it would be a very boring video without all of the risks they were taking for my entertainment. My thoughts were "what a bunch of assholes" but yet I was entertained waiting for their just rewards.

I don't see them as cyclers. I just see stupidity on wheels. Maybe their YT money will pay for someone else's funeral or lawsuit.

I have to wonder how they are not in jail already with all the video evidence on line.

newtboy said:

Looks fun, but I can’t support all the light running and wrong way weaving through traffic.
Also, if you’re going to ride with no brakes, learn how first. There are multiple ways to stop with no brakes that he didn’t know.

People like them give cyclers a bad rep.

Empire of the Ants - Reveal Teaser | PS5 Games

ant says...

Yeah, I saw that a few weeks ago. I was surprised Microids was doing another Empire of the Ants like they did in Y2K. It was pretty back then, but boring. I'd rather replay SimAnts. Maybe this one will be better. Also, I don't do consoles.

newtboy said:

For @ant

Fallout TV Show Teaser

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Nice…disbarred and broke Giuliani has been fined $90000 in sanctions for refusing to participate in discovery and may get contempt charges and go to jail in the defamation case filed by Ruby Freeman and Shea Moss, who he slandered and libeled, lying to MAGA that there was some evidence they cheated the 2020 election by creating/counting fake votes (proven false) and eating ginger candy he claimed were thumbnail drives I suppose they were plugging into their mouths, leading to hundreds of death threats and serious damage to their reputations.

The judge has given him an order to produce documents in May but he claimed he couldn’t afford to, then said he found the money but still didn’t produce anything. Since he claims he has no money, and still isn’t participating, the plaintiffs claims will be considered to be established quite soon, maybe today…he’s going to lose by default and they’ll just move on to the damages portion of trial….just like the criminal nutjob Alex Jones that tried to not participate in his own trial for abusing the parents of murdered children and sending his nutjob army to attack the parents…didn’t work out so great for him…neither will attempting to hide his assets.

That’s a good indication Giuliani’s going to lose another case, which will cost him millions he doesn’t have, and he will be in contempt for refusing to participate.

Nice to see more MAGgots going broke and to jail. Trump turned him from America’s Mayor to a complete laughing stock who’s broke, disbarred, disgraced, delusional, and who is likely going to jail. Thanks Trump!

AND….Trump has now admitted he used drugs to be less boring and slow when he gives speeches. He admitted this by claiming the cocaine found in public entrance to the whitehouse is what they give Biden so he can give such eloquent and comprehensible speeches without rambling or going off on tangents. Every single accusation is an admission, so Trump just told the world he’s a dope fiend that can’t speak without his speed (and barely with it). 😂
Your messiah is a child molesting sex abuser fraud and seditious traitor who was high as shit while president, explaining a whole lot of his insanity.

Bonus- Trump is now under investigation in AZ for the same election interference he’s about to be indicted in Georgia for…both the fake elector scheme and all the frivolous lawsuits trying to throw out legitimate votes he lost..

making 160 year old historical mouldings

Buttle says...

He did have the boring skim coat done by professionals. It's hard to get that perfect, and not much of video in it.

BSR said:

I can't believe I watched the whole thing without skipping ahead. I have to admire his patients.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

This bizarre story was immediately explained in the honest media as being MAGA attack, while lying Con media made up a story about Pelosi’s husband having a fight with his gay lover, and you bought it hook line and sinker again, fool.

Bid surprise, it was absolutely undeniably a politically motivated MAGgot terrorist attack.

But to recap, you came up with a ton of insulting nonsense bullshit to hide your party’s obvious culpability over a terroristic politically motivated elderly attack and spouted it like it bore a resemblance to facts. It did not….again. Your positions never bear even a slight resemblance to facts. Every single detail of your position is bullshit lies….every time. Never once have you accepted responsibility for the horrific actions and policies you support. As usual, you spout insulting lies, then slink away like a cowardly worm to pretend you didn’t say the disgusting lies you just said.

It was a politically motivated terrorist attack by a hard core MAGgot attacking Pelosi over “the big lie” that came directly from Trump, with many more Democrat targets.

Where are the web links YOU were looking at. The fake stories created on that Friday and gone by Monday? They’re gone, hidden in the darkness, just like you, buddy. Never once a “mea culpa, I’m wrong, or I’m sorry” from you despite being intentionally insultingly wrong 99.998% of the time

If only you had a scintilla of honor or sense of self worth….there isn’t a bag of dicks big enough for a piece of lying shit loser like you. Go take a long walk on a short pier if you can’t admit you’re nothing but a sick troll and do better.

bobknight33 said:

This bizarre story was immediately explained in the liberal media as being MAGA attack:

But to recap:
So let's get this straight, a man in his underwear manages to elude security cameras, Scale a wall & elude security guards and dogs,breaks into a home without setting an alarm off but is somehow captured with a hammer because of a wellness check at 2am. Also were both in their underwear, and a 3rd “unknown person” answered the door.
Fishy Pelosi Story Right?


DePape is not a right wing MAGA guy, he's a crazy doper who is all over the place on politics.
Paul knew his name & called him a friend in 911 call
Was NOT a political attack.

But by leftest standards... If 2 guys in their undwear get into a hammer fight at 2 am its Trumps fault.


What web links are you looking at? The fake ones created on Friday and now are gone?

Bodycam Moment Deputy Suffers Panic Attack While Armed

newtboy says...

There was no gun. The man says “I’m recording” and the twice fired for cause officer just opens fire in a blind rage.
On the stand the cop admitted hiding his previous police jobs to hide that he had been forced out of both for misconduct including “ fanning his gun over an officer’s head and lying to his chief.”. Seems he learned nothing.

Police charged the victims with felony assault by panic attack, he was acquitted after spending 42 days in jail over a cop’s mistakes, she was convicted of misdemeanor attempted resisting. They were first held for weeks without even a preliminary hearing required within 10 days of arrest by law.

It turned out the cop had no reason at all to stop the woman either, none whatsoever, and no reason to stop her at gunpoint either. He claimed a general warrant alert for a “blond woman” had been issued (WHAT!?!) but produced no such alert in court.
Also his official report on this incident bore no resemblance to the recorded video at all, from the direction he faced to what he saw and heard, and absolutely no mention of his panic attack and hospitalization.
Turns out this trigger happy, lying, wife abusing, adulterous, false report filing, testifying, twice fired cop is a “preacher”. Why am I not surprised?

Also turns out his department did not investigate this shooting incident.

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2018/01/17/sevier-deputy-panic-attack-case-forced-resign-prior-law-enforcement-job/1034932001/

Ok @bobknight33….what did the guy 20+ yards away just recording do to warrant getting shot at 7 times, felony arrested (so beaten up) and put in jail for 42 days?
How was he not complying?
How was he “fucking around with cops” because he definitely got shot at, so did the woman and emt he very nearly shot, (that cop has absolutely no shot control at all, fired for poor gun safety before) the two were falsely charged with felony assault against a police officer (her too), a false charge that carries a 15 year sentence.

President Biden responses beautifully

cloudballoon says...

Oh. So Musk is laying off 10%. The question is, WHERE is that 10%? Tesla, Space X, Boring, the solar panel and his other companies ACROSS THE BOARD?

If it is, then Musk is legit say he has a bad feeling about the US economy. If not, that's just a cowardly dodge to hide his companies' bad performances.

Besides, only heartless f**kwits would lay out 10% on speculations.

Musk knows real competitions (and lawsuits) are coming and Tesla can't fend off them forever.

Think people. Think. And bad journalism.

Ricky Gervais on Trans Woman

kir_mokum says...

it was rough in a comedy sense. he might as well have made a "my wife is always nagging" joke. even if you hate trans people, it wasn't a clever joke. and honestly, comedians using "woke culture" and trans people as jumping off points is so fucking boring. they've rarely added anything to the conversation are rarely funny. it's unfortunate that a lot of my favourite comedians are still doing those kinds of bits.

Harzzach said:

Ricky is always rough on everyone. No exceptions!

newtboy (Member Profile)

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newtboy (Member Profile)

bcglorf (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

I had to quit discussing things like this in private thanks to bob (and his sock puppets). I refuse now because he likes to be a completely different person in private, admitting things he would never admit in public conversation, admitting he’s lying, that Trump is an awful human being, etc. he ruined it.
Sorry…replying publicly.

If you can’t/won’t answer one simple question, there’s no point. I’m sick of answering all of yours and having you dodge mine….especially sick of it since you refuse to even acknowledge my answers and pretend I didn’t give you a straight answer. I refused to answer one red herring, biased, loaded, off topic question because I disagreed wholeheartedly with its premise, but answered every other you asked.
I feel like you’re wasting my time here..

I must point out, the question you continue to ignore trumps every question you asked….how can you deny the rights of legal women to compete in publicly funded contests as women? It’s their constitutional right to not be discriminated against based on gender. Case closed. Nothing overrides that legality.

I answered your question 3 times now. If you can’t understand, why keep trying? One last time, but I’m out. I’m not going to answer you without the same consideration.

There is no evidence that xx vs xy denotes one automatically has an advantage based on just chromosomal arrangements. None.

Women CAN be stronger, faster, better than men in most arenas, and vice versa. Genetic gender may indicate a likelihood random men will be stronger than random women, it alone does not dictate biological differences that can/will be advantageous in athletics. Hormone levels, hormone therapy, supplements, mental fortitude, training, environment, opportunities, dna, rna, diet, HGH, etc can all go into creating (or erasing) those possible physical “advantages” you reference, not just chromosomal arrangements. Since that’s true, discrimination based on chromosomal arrangements is not just wrong and illegal, it’s ignorant and evil.

I’ve been over that 3 times, now 4. I’ve given specific examples. What’s the issue in comprehension? Are you even reading? What?!

I’m bored of this. We won’t get anywhere with this one sided discussion where only one of us answers questions or pays attention to the answers. Fuggetaboutit. This isn’t a discussion

Have a nice day. Bye.

bcglorf said:

Gonna try and continue this in private, public comment sections have enough anti-trans toxicity and the pages of projected/anticipated hatred you’re trying attribute to me doesn’t seem helpful for anyone else to read.

Can we start from trying to understand each others positions, definitions and assumptions before concluding a dozen other anticipated conditions on top? For my part, I honestly do want to try to understand where the disconnect in thought process here exists.

For instance, one of my first inquiries was if you agreed or not that biological sex(XX,XY) dictates biological differences that can be advantageous in athletics?

I am not attempting to project anything further, but instead to understand if even that observation is common ground or if it’s a point where our world views already diverge.

HORSE

Phooz says...

"Bored I'm a horse and I am a horse bored" (set to the music of "bored in the house and I'm in the house bored"

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