>> ^kymbos:

Man, what is it with America and book burning?


Its a long established religious tradition.. inspired from the likes of the Roman Catholic Church during the Inquisition and the Dark Ages. Of course, no religion is excluded to participate! Enjoy the burning!

>> ^kymbos:

Man, what is it with America and book burning?


it's definitely not just an American thing, but yeah we do have our fair share of stupid people.


it doesn't help that our media is willing to report on ANYTHING.

Man, what is it with America and book burning?

>> ^direpickle:

I think we should have a big iconoclastic symbol-burning party. I am wholeheartedly in favor of their right to burn the Koran. The fundies can burn physics and biology books, anarchists can burn the flag, Scientologists can burn psychology books, Anonymous can burn Dianetics, Atheists can burn the Bible, these guys can burn the Koran. Let's do it.
We can make it a competition! Whoever gets the most pissed off loses. You do not have a right to not be offended, and in fact I think it's the obligation of every free-thinking person to try to offend as many stupid beliefs as possible. Stir the fucking pot. Make people either 1) realize they're being jackasses by getting pissed off over nothing or 2) lose credibility with everyone else.


I'll see your book burning and raise you a Godwin!

Yeah, I see your point... But why perform an act that one knows will result in hatred? It's like the over-zealousness of patriotism sometimes...

I dunno... I see both sides of the Quran burning arguement... There's nothing wrong with it, as a single controlled act of book burning, but it leads to feelings and actions beyond the initial event. Why open those gates to begin with when it will surely lead to something worse? While the burning itself does not cause any visible harm, it may lead to other events that are harmful. I guess then we end up back to the violent video games argument though, where personal responsibility comes into play.

I guess the better quote for this type of thing would be, "My right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." mostly as a reminder to viewers of the burning.

And yet, Palin and her wretched brood will continue to capture the imagination of Americans because we have become a country of stupid, ignorant, intolerant assholes who are proud of this fact. She represents us. God-fearing, pregnant teen, book-burning, catch-phrase-spewing troglodytes.

We deserve her.

Lets have a good ol fashion book burning of the koran.

She says Nuclear the same way Bush does... Incorrectly.

I don't understand why some people love her. Yes she's pretty, but she's also pretty dumb. I suppose some people just relish the thought of fiasco politics, as if they get off on a comedy of blundering errors in positions of power. Didn't she condone book burning a few years back? Could you imagine if someone like this were to come into office? Just think of the executive orders that would pass through her desk. It'd be worse than Bush's I'll bet.

On that note, what's with Obama signing executive orders? Wasn't he supposed to dismantle some of Bushs and promised not to abuse it as well? Sigh, this is what we get for going along with the old two party system. It's sad because even any 3rd party that emerges gets hijacked by one of these two parties as well. I guess we're stuck with whatever we're told are "supercandidates". It's really sad... really sad indeed.

Please let this man be kidnapped and tortured by fundamentalist Islamics so that he may learn the benevolence of his god.

Just an afterthought, could I request a thousand copies of his book and hold a fun little community book burning?

It's torture. End of discussion how about it?? The subject should have been concluded 823,467 video submissions ago, then perhaps,
"Move the hell on."

Funny how with 21 comment upvotes for the "Hannity" comment one can see aaaaallll the folks who have wasted time listening to the man. He has, thank the gods, still a place on the air-waves to continue to sell ad time with his blubbering. He's a weasel on par with most politicians and its fortunate we still have not gone the way of censorship with am/fm talk radio-Freedom of speech is really no freedom at all now days, however, bondage be evidenced here by the willingness of the common man to grab a torch and head to the castle. Any good regime change needs help from self-righteous, fervent, automatons.

Book burning in the 21st century present day amounts to shutting down any speech that offends anyone in any way. NWO is full of those ready to sacrifice true freedoms. Doesn't take a brain surgeon to read a teleprompter-masses are swayed with reason sacrificed on the altar of emotionalism.

The bibles were destroyed! I love a good book burning.

Just because we lack proof of the non- existence doesn't mean the opposite is automatically true. As my little sister often says to me "Just because you can't see something, doesnt mean it's not real." to which i retort, "But that doesn't mean that it IS real either!"

I admit that I would have to concede some kind of faith to definitively say that god does not exist. I would say that the idea is EXTREMELY unlikely (since we're speaking in specifics)

What exactly is the difference between the practical and scientific knowledge? (according to you)

Allow me to borrow a few words from Richard Dawkins, (paraphrased) I assume that when you say god that you mean the judeo christian god and not say any of these :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deities
You could have picked any of these gods, and lets see here,
Further information: Australian Aboriginal mythology

* Adnoartina - the lizard guard of Uluru
* Altjira - God of Dreams
* Anjea - Fertility goddess
* Bagadjimbiri - Two brothers and creator gods
* Baiame - God of rain
* Bamapana - A trickster god who causes discord
* Banaitja - A creator god
* Bobbi-Bobbi - Supernatural being who lived in the heavens in the Dreamtime
* Bunjil - The supreme god, represented as an eagle
* Daramulum - Son of Baiame
* Dilga - Goddess of fertility and growth
* Djanggawul - Three siblings, two female and one male, who created the landscape of Australia
* Eingana - Creator goddess
* Galeru - A rainbow snake who swallowed the Djanggawul
* Gnowee - A solar goddess
* Julana - A lecherous spirit who surprises women
* Julunggul - A rainbow snake goddess
* Karora - A creator god
* Kidili - Ancient moon-man
* Kunapipi - Mother goddess (patron deity of heroes)
* Mangar-kunjer-kunja - Lizard god who created humans
* Numakulla - Two sky gods who created all life on Earth
* Pundjel - Creator god
* Ulanji - Snake-ancestor of the Binbinga
* Wala
* Wawalag - Sisters who were daughters of Djanggawul
* Wuriupranili - A solar goddess
* Yurlungur - Mythological copper snake

Do you believe in these gods as well? Do you concede faith to them because their existence can't be disproven?

Give it up, if you were born and raised in Africa you'd be worshiping Jengu (water/river spirit). All I'm asking for is a re-evaluation of your opinions with what fits with the facts.

If your doctor came into the surgery room with all sorts of unproven ideas about how to operate on you, you'd understandably feel uncomfortable. AND THATS A GOOD THING!! The demand for solid evidence has given us clean water, a healthy abundant food supply, modern medicine, and brought an end to witch hunts! Well...Almost.
http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2007/10/03/book-burning-fueling-flames-of-censorship/

More people that are willing to re-evaluate their opinions (something encouraged by a scientific approach) means less crazy ideas running rampant and more sensible honest people.

In reply to this comment by nadabu:
Oh, good, it seems we're more on the same page than i thought. If we lack proof of God's non-existence, then it seems to me quite wrong to limit the options for theists like myself are not limited to liar, ignoramus or (self-)deceived. So, may we now consider the option of faith? Faith being neither pretense, ignorance nor deception, but rather a sincere belief (possibly of varying degree) in that which is clearly unproven in any scientific sense and yet also admittedly impossible to disprove.

It seems to me that limiting what we "know" (in the practical sense, not the scientific sense) to that which can be scientifically proven is absurdly, paralyzingly impractical. We constantly live "by faith" in all sorts of little and big things. All humans regularly act as though "[we] know more about something than [we] possibly could". Why then, when it comes to the issue of theism, should my faith merit your derision? My theism didn't come from proof, and i'm not ever going to prove it. I believe one day God will force the matter, but i sure as hell can't do it for you. If you want to know what and why i believe about God and how that works in my life, i can talk about that.

In reply to this comment by JiggaJonson:
The burden of proof lays in your hands not mine. Trying to disprove the existence of god would be like trying to disprove the existance of unicorns or dragons. We have stories about dragons and unicorns but maybe even those are bad analogies. Perhaps Bigfoot or Loch Ness would be better examples(since people actually do seem to believe said things are real) despite a lack of credible evidence.

Maybe you could answer a question for me and then i'll be able to help you.

Find something we can both agree isn't real, and then tell me how to disprove it's existence.

Everyone here seems to think that Fahrenheit 451 is a book about censorship, and that's a reasonable interpretation, but somewhat disappointingly it's not what Bradbury intended. Quoth Wikipedia:

"Over the years, the novel has been subject to various interpretations, primarily focusing on the historical role of book burning in suppressing dissenting ideas. Bradbury has stated that the novel is not about censorship; he states that Fahrenheit 451 is a story about how television destroys interest in reading literature, which leads to a perception of knowledge as being composed of "factoids", partial information devoid of context, e.g., Napoleon's birth date alone, without an indication of who he was."

Somewhat contradicting this stance is the fact that Bradbury later added an introduction to the book which specifically addressed censorship, and does indeed make this video seem ironic:

"There is more than one way to burn a book. And the world is full of people running about with lit matches. Every minority, be it Baptist / Unitarian, Irish / Italian / Octogenarian / Zen Buddhist / Zionist / Seventh-day Adventist / Women's Lib / Republican / Mattachine / FourSquareGospel feel it has the will, the right, the duty to douse the kerosene, light the fuse….Fire-Captain Beatty, in my novel Fahrenheit 451, described how the books were burned first by the minorities, each ripping a page or a paragraph from this book, then that, until the day came when the books were empty and the minds shut and the library closed forever. ... Only six weeks ago, I discovered that, over the years, some cubby-hole editors at Ballantine Books, fearful of contaminating the young, had, bit by bit, censored some 75 separate sections from the novel. Students, reading the novel which, after all, deals with the censorship and book-burning in the future, wrote to tell me of this exquisite irony. Judy-Lynn del Rey, one of the new Ballantine editors, is having the entire book reset and republished this summer with all the damns and hells back in place."

Atheist Uprising! we need a book burning ourselves... of the bible. and when the media asks why? we can list the offensive things in the bible that most of these fundies are ignorant to and that the media never acknowledges.

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” -Richard Dawkins: The God Delusion

hmmm...Alabama: A haven for whites. Yea...I'll stick to the cultural melting pot that I am blessed to live in. You have your bland, pale, non-electricity having, illiterate, book burning, Jesus (or Odin) loving, hell you call a haven.

Enjoy your frumpy pasty snaggle-toothed witches you consider "beauties" or "sisters" (one-in-the-same) while I bounce quarters off hot latina booty.

edit: Skinhead parties serve cake? Nevermind, I'm in!!!