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Robert Palmer: Simply Irresistible

A handy guide to what actually constitutes sexual harassment

HenningKO says...

Right, well these are all pretty easy, and the point was exaggeration for comedic effect...

It's not funny, but if one wanted to actually be instructional, the fine line now would be something like: can I ask a woman out a third time after she turned me down twice, the difference between telling a woman "You look great" and "that dress looks great on you" + looking her up and down, should you ever tell a woman you work with you're attracted to her, can I proposition a woman a second time if she's still at my place after a date and said no once? If not, can I ask her to leave then? Can I play that song Baby its cold Outside or Blurred Lines at the office party? Can I tell a joke about sex and should I stop when a woman enters the room, or does that make it worse?

IMO, it's not helpful to pretend it should be obvious and everyone who doesn't get it is a laughable idiot or creep. Or to insist that there's a definite line and you're either a "decent person" or a "complete wanker"... most of us are somewhere in between and vary day to day. Or to say "if it feels wrong it IS wrong"... obviously some men have their feels calibrated differently and would benefit from the rules to being more explicit.

Either that, or the answer to all of these is "depends on the woman..." you just need to get to know them, and even then you probably will make a mistake.

Victim Gets Revenge On Bully By Dating His Mom

noims says...

I know what you mean, but I think there is a blurred line when it comes to rape. Does sex coerced under false pretenses count?

If you claim to be in love with someone but aren't, is it rape? Or if you claim to be a millionaire but aren't? If you claim to be of their religion? If you wear a mask and they think you're someone else? If they're drunk or high and they think you're their partner? Or so far gone they don't know or care? How about if you got them drunk/high for that specific reason?

In all these and many more scenarios between, they can enjoy the act, but there's a valid argument for rape. Laws and individual morals vary, but they're all on a spectrum.

If I murder you to hurt your brother, my intent isn't to victimise you, but it still has that effect.

Finally, yes, she brought the conversation public, but under very different (and I'd argue innocent or even noble) circumstances. Revealing the reality - and reveling in the revelation - is in my view rong [sic].

newtboy said:

I pretty much agree, except 1)he also got the benefit of sleeping with her and 2) his intent wasn't to victimize her.
She made it public, not him, and she was more than willing and clearly had a good time.

I agree she probably feels quite used, but raped?! that's insanity. This whole thing happened because she wanted more. Rape isn't something that retroactively happens weeks or months after the sex when you can't get more, and those who think it does are detracting from real rape victims and minimizing the crime of rape itself.

If Meat Eaters Acted Like Vegans

transmorpher says...

LOL! Robin Thicke sees so many blurred lines, he needs a new prescription set of glasses.

Yikes, I suspect there will be many vegans cleaning spat out coconut juice off their monitors after seeing that monkey video.

Mordhaus said:

Especially in this video

If Meat Eaters Acted Like Vegans

transmorpher says...

The the vegan ideology is: to not exploit any animals unnecessarily.

It doesn't matter if someone or something is not aware that it's being exploited, it still is wrong. If I steal money from you, and you never find out, does that make it OK? If you tranquilize a person and molest them so that they'll never know, does that make it OK? Of course not.

Also you can't really exploit plants, since most of them have evolved to be eaten as part of their reproductive cycle.

You are right though, there are definitely some blurred lines in some areas.

Mordhaus said:

I don't consider the chemical reactions of plants to be the same. I said that 'even' plants have a response to negative stimuli. Animals have instinct, a response coded into their DNA, that allows them to respond to negative stimuli. Does that make them a fully sentient being, capable of self-awareness and logical thought? No, it doesn't.

Do insects have rational thought? Do clams or lobster have rational thought? If your entire goal is to avoid (formerly) living matter that can respond to negative stimuli, then why draw the line at plants? Do you really believe that a sea urchin has more capability of self-awareness than a head of lettuce?

This is the fallacy of logic that lies at the core of vegan ideology. Vegans say "I will eat this item because it doesn't understand pain!" when there are, in fact, many life forms that do not understand pain beyond a stimulus reaction.

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"Weird Al" Yankovic - Word Crimes (Blurred Lines Parody)

Blurred Lines (uncensored)

"Weird Al" Yankovic - Word Crimes (Blurred Lines Parody)

How the Media Failed Women in 2013

dannym3141 says...

This might be throwing a bit of a lit match into the whole thing, but there has been a lot of discussion about how "the media" failed women, and how some sort of unseen force is trying to keep women down, or even men.

At some point in the production of any music video you care to point a finger at, some women have been quite happy to accept money in exchange for portraying whatever it is that certain people are unhappy about.

I have to insist that the question is asked - does everyone WANT equality? There are a lot of women out there quite happy to make a lot of money based on photoshop'd depictions of how they might look in a make believe world. Or to dance around in their smalls, trying their very best to MAKE men interested in their sexual prowess. Their primary money making skill is sexual.

So before we criticise this invisible and possibly make-believe machine that systematically holds women down, how about we consider the individual decisions of prominent women? The women in the blurred lines video weren't forced at gunpoint to strip off and dance around titillating viewers, they accepted payment for a job and did what they were paid for knowing full well that young girls might be watching and imitating them, or whatever.

I mean, great job insulting the hell out of the producer of the video or the choreographer or the guy who made up the song. But all they did was write out a script or imagine out a vision of something they would consider sexually appealing. How about blaming the vacuous bints that wobbled their tits around without considering the consequences?

Perhaps not everyone WANTS equality. Men or women, but women are the easy example; perhaps some or perhaps even many women WANT to be able to use their bodies to gain interest from men or money. If that is the case - as it is for "sexy" music videos, photo shoots, modelling contracts or anything you care to name that involves a complicit woman representing an apparently undesirable or harmful skill - then it is equally unfair to force "equality" on those who do not want it. I see everyone as a person - all equal. And if someone wants to accept payment for wobbling their bits around then that's their decision until it becomes illegal, and it's ridiculous to turn around and say "oh how terribly oppressive of <someone else> for paying that women to flaunt herself." She accepted the fucking cash and did it. She could have pursued any career she wanted. It isn't like she had no other choice.

Additionally, I'm not going to even enter into any discussion that involves "rape" or terms akin to "rape culture" (what a bullshit term) because i actually believe that it detracts hugely from actual acts of rape and the pursuit of justice and prevention of rape.

How the Media Failed Women in 2013

JiggaJonson says...

@Trancecoach
@vadeosaft

I agree with you on a lot of these points about men, but you are using the vilification/ignorance surrounding the portrayals of men in the media to justify the portrayal of women in the media. Neither set of stereotypes is preferable, but justifying one bad portrayal by saying "men have it just as bad or worse" doesn't make for a good argument.

@Stu
I don't know what you're referring to. Here is what I found:
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/emily-ratajkowski-interview-blurred-lines
This?
That's not really an explanation of what the song is about. And if it's supposed to be poking fun at those types of stereotypes, I feel they did a poor job. Come on, this is a far cry from A Modest Proposal in terms of sarcastic social criticism.

How the Media Failed Women in 2013

JiggaJonson says...

@Trancecoach I'd like to see a female equivalent (or worse) of the Rob Thicke video where he's fully clothed dancing around actually naked women doing things like:

Blowing smoke in their faces
Making them feign humping dogs
Holding little stop signs in their ass (because they want him to stop but he knows they want it)
Spelling out "Rob Thicke has a big dick" (clit? for the female version that doesn't exist as far as I know)

Not to mention the whole song is basically mirrors date rape and forcing yourself on women. http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/09/17/from-the-mouths-of-rapists-the-lyrics-of-robin-thickes-blurred-lines-and-real-life-rape/

Yeah... good luck finding something MORE poorly portrayed, as you put it, where men are featured.

p.s. here's a link to the video: http://vimeo.com/64611906

YouTube Rewind 2013: What Does 2013 Say?

Zawash says...

Credits and links here (from YT):
MUSIC
Music remixed by DJ Earworm: http://youtube.com/djearworm
The Fox (What Does the Fox Say?) by Ylvis: http://goo.gl/Z2Q6sq
Blurred Lines by Robin Thicke: http://goo.gl/8tcnhU
Can't Hold Us by Macklemore & Ryan Lewis: http://goo.gl/o1wclM
Get Lucky by Daft Punk: http://goo.gl/9Z1rc1
Gentleman by PSY: http://goo.gl/X3bw7M
Harlem Shake by Baauer: http://goo.gl/fOQmFX

STARRING (IN ORDER OF APPEARANCE)
Kid President - http://youtube.com/soulpancake
Ryan Higa - http://youtube.com/nigahiga
MysteryGuitarMan - http://youtube.com/mysteryguitarman
Kassem G - http://youtube.com/kassemg
GloZell - http://youtube.com/glozell1
Blogilates - http://youtube.com/blogilates
Kaycee Rice - http://youtube.com/brads411
DeStorm - http://youtube.com/DeStorm‎
Taryn Southern - http://youtube.com/TarynSouthern
Bethany Mota - http://youtube.com/Macbarbie07
Brandon Laatsch - http://youtube.com/freddiew‎
Jenna Marbles - http://youtube.com/JennaMarbles‎
Hannah Hart - http://youtube.com/MyHarto
Rhett & Link - http://youtube.com/RhettandLink‎
Tobuscus - http://youtube.com/Tobuscus‎
Convos With My 2-Year-Old - http://youtube.com/ConvosWith2YrOld‎
Alison Gold - http://youtube.com/patomuzic
Mike Tompkins - http://youtube.com/pbpproductions
Epic Meal Time - http://youtube.com/EpicMealTime
Tori Locklear - http://youtube.com/vickyraye
Chester See - http://youtube.com/chestersee‎
Jimmy Fallon - http://youtube.com/latenight‎
Laina - http://youtube.com/wzr0713
Tyler Oakley - http://youtube.com/tyleroakley‎
Prancercise - http://youtube.com/Prancercise
Girls' Generation - http://youtube.com/SMTOWN
Marina Shifrin - http://youtube.com/mvsdzb
The Fine Bros - http://youtube.com/TheFineBros‎
Hikakin - http://youtube.com/HIKAKIN
D-Trix - http://youtube.com/theDOMINICshow
Sam Horowitz - http://goo.gl/1U60fn
Bart Baker - http://youtube.com/BartBaker
Jack Hoffman - https://www.youtube.com/user/HuskerAthletics
Barely Political - http://youtube.com/barelypolitical
Alex Day - http://youtube.com/nerimon
Annoying Orange - http://youtube.com/daneboe
Dave Days - http://youtube.com/davedays
Kaleb Nation - http://www.youtube.com/kalebnation
Jamie Oliver - http://youtube.com/JamieOliver‎
iJustine - http://youtube.com/ijustine
Epic Rap Battles of History - http://youtube.com/ERB‎
Porta Dos Fundos - http://youtube.com/portadosfundos‎
Magic of Rahat - http://youtube.com/MagicofRahat‎
SORTED Food - http://youtube.com/sortedfood‎
Cookie Monster - http://youtube.com/SesameStreet
Macklemore - http://youtube.com/RyanLewisProductions
Corridor Digital - http://youtube.com/CorridorDigital
The Slow Mo Guys - http://youtube.com/theslowmoguys
Smosh - http://youtube.com/smosh
Jimmy Kimmel - http://youtube.com/JimmyKimmelLive‎
Nick Selby - http://youtube.com/rupumped
Grace Helbig - http://youtube.com/dailygrace
FreddieW - http://youtube.com/freddiew‎
PewDiePie - http://youtube.com/PewDiePie
...and more!

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Full Credits: http://portal-a.com/rewind

WATCH THE TOP VIDEOS OF 2013: http://yt.be/rewind
WATCH THE BEHIND-THE-SCENES: http://yt.be/rewind/bts
WATCH THE EFFECTS BEFORE & AFTER: http://goo.gl/d0viKl

FEATURING AUDIO FROM:
Goats Yelling Like Humans: http://youtu.be/nlYlNF30bVg
Dead Giveaway by schmoyoho: http://youtu.be/nZcRU0Op5P4

The American Humane Association was present during this production. No animals were harmed in those scenes.

Inspired by Talia Joy: http://youtube.com/taliajoy18

brycewi19 said:

Way too many people/personalities that I simply don't recognize at all, despite the fact that I'm on the Sift several times a day.

I guess most of these Youtubers are simply not Sift-worthy!

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