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Going to the Doctor in America

arekin says...

This is officially the most stupid thing i have read today. This implies a world with no disease, genetic predisposition, or accidents.

Not all diabetes is preventable and a lot is not simply curable with diet. Type one for example is a child onset genetic autoimmune disorder that prevents your body from producing enough insulin. Untreated by doctors it is fatal no matter what your diet is. Some type 2 diabetes is preventable, but even when it is, if you don't catch it before it onsets and you develop that insulin resistance you may remain insulin resistant for life and always require medication. Also a diabetic diet is not a "simple dietary change". The american diet is a carb rich diet that makes monitoring blood sugar to be a constant uphill battle. There is no simple fix for diabetes.

Also, you are exactly the type of patient doctors hate. You haven take no preventive actions to ensure that you remain healthy (such as a yearly physical) and when a doctor does see you roll into the emergency room because you think you're dying, he is now taking extreme measures to get you healthy again. With your lack of insurance, hes pretty certain he will not be paid for it.

Sniper007 said:

I've never had health insurance for the entire 32 years of my life. I've never had any problems receiving or paying for necessary treatments.

Then again, I never go to the doctors for white butt hair. I literally only go there if I believe I'm going to die and I can't think of anywhere else to go.

The problem with Americans is they believe the doctors (or someone else) are perpetually responsible for their health and continually ignore all factors (diet, thought patterns, excercise, and more) which are in fact the items that make or break their health. All diabetes is 100% curable, for example, with simple dietary changes.

Lymphoma and Death Instead of Red Flaky Skin? Sign Me Up!

wraith says...

From Wikipedia:
Adalimumab (HUMIRA, AbbVie) is the third TNF inhibitor, after infliximab and etanercept, to be approved in the United States. Like infliximab and etanercept, adalimumab binds to Tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNFα), preventing it from activating TNF receptors. Adalimumab was constructed from a fully human monoclonal antibody, while infliximab is a mouse-human chimeric antibody and etanercept is a TNF receptor-IgG fusion protein. TNFα inactivation has proven to be important in downregulating the inflammatory reactions associated with autoimmune diseases. As of 2008 adalimumab has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis, Crohn's disease, moderate to severe chronic psoriasis and juvenile idiopathic arthritis. Although only approved for ulcerative colitis from late 2012 by the FDA in the disease's management, it has been used for several years in cases that have not responded to conventional treatment at standard dosing for Crohn's Disease.

But yes, seeing a powerfull and potetially extremly harmful drug advertised for what seems to be (I am no medical expert) a "cosmetic disorder"is frightening.

60 Minutes on the impact of antivaccination lobbying

marbles says...

Here's some more articles from naturalnews.com covering the potential dangers of vaccines. The articles are sourced. I used Naturalnews because it's a website I personally trust and one that I read on a regular basis.

Re: infants
The hepatitis B vaccine is linked to infant death, multiple sclerosis and autoimmune disorders
New study: Nations requiring the most vaccines tend to have the worst infant mortality rates
More than 2,000 vaccinated babies died: The cost of doing business
Abortion stillbirth events from Gardasil far exceed all other vaccines
Are MMR vaccines dangerous for children? Dr Suzanne Humphries urges parents to get informed
Flu vaccine causing infant seizures; FDA to investigate
Babies given pneumococcal vaccination risk infection with serious drug resistant respiratory disease

Re: fraud
CDC vaccine scientist who downplayed links to autism indicted by DOJ in alleged fraud scheme
Dr. Jonas Salk, inventor of polio vaccine, exposed as criminal-minded scientist who conducted illicit medical experiments on mental patients
Medical 'experts' pushing HPV vaccines told what not to say about them, including their death toll
The FDA is a clearing house for Food and Drug Corruption
Hidden government papers expose lies about measles vaccines for infants
WHO list reveals flu advisors with financial ties to pharma, vaccine manufacturers
Flu Vaccines, pharma fraud, quack science, the CDC and WHO -- all exposed by Richard Gale and Gary Null
WHO scandal exposed: Advisors received kickbacks from H1N1 vaccine manufacturers
Central Figure in CDC Vaccine Safety Studies Investigated for Fraud
Vaccination Quackery Appears in Plain Sight

Re: autism
Sixth study in recent months links mercury in flu shots to brain damage, autism
Multiple studies link autism to mercury, which is still present in most flu vaccines
Government vaccine compensation payouts prove autism link
Latest research links autism to vaccines
Thimerosal-free childhood vaccines still suspect in autism

Re: other
Vaccines lower immunity
Swine flu vaccine linked to 900 percent increased risk of developing narcolepsy
Government Admits Link between H1N1 Vaccine and Deadly Nerve Disease
Japan halts vaccines from Pfizer, Sanofi after deaths of four children
Influenza vaccine sends children into convulsions
Australia bans flu vaccines in children after vomiting, fevers, seizures
Finland suspends H1N1 vaccines after children suffer narcolepsy from vaccinations
Flu vaccine push already underway; first batch causes seizures in children
Pig virus contaminates rotavirus vaccines, but FDA says no problem
India halts HPV vaccine trial after six girls die, US does nothing in response to 67 deaths and counting
Seasonal flu vaccines increase risk of pandemic H1N1 flu, stunned scientists discover

Penn & Teller on the Anti-Vaccination Movement

mentality says...

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^BicycleRepairMan:
No. Anecdotes ≠ evidence.
http://www.everydayhealth.com/autoimmune-disord
ers/can-vaccines-cause-autoimmune-disorders.aspx
>> ^Yogi:
Can vaccines trigger autoimmune diseases? I think they can...you know why I think this? Cause I've seen it...


AHEM I think I've already said that I'm a doctor...not sure if you know what that means but it should completely end the argument right there. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


A doctor that doesn't understand the difference between penicillin and a vaccine is like a chef that doesn't understand the difference between a knife and a spatula.

Penn & Teller on the Anti-Vaccination Movement

Penn & Teller on the Anti-Vaccination Movement

Penn & Teller on the Anti-Vaccination Movement

Yogi says...

Wow looks like I really pissed off some people. Can vaccines trigger autoimmune diseases? I think they can...you know why I think this? Cause I've seen it...you can trust me...I'm a doctor.

And I really REALLY Hope I give everyone Polio.

25 Random things about me... (Blog Entry by youdiejoe)

rasch187 says...

I guess I've delayed this for too long, but here goes:

1. I've killed at least 250 birds
2. and I don't feel bad about it
3. As a kid I was a talented chess player
4. I used to be a member of MENSA, but it was too geeky and self-indulgent for me
5. My first car was a Seat Leon
6. I loved that car and still miss it
7. I've been involved in a serious car crash and was the only one to walk away unharmed
8. The only code I know is html
9. In school I made a fansite about Wesley Willis
10. I've dislocated both shoulders numerous times
11. I haven't been in a fight for over 6 years now (and I don't plan to)
12. I'm a big fan of Liverpool FC
13. I've never been to Liverpool
14. I own a 12 gauge shotgun and a .30-06 rifle
15. I'm not a big fan of handguns, but I used to have a Desert Eagle .45 (the kickback was fun and frightening at the same time)
16. I suffer from an autoimmune disease (it's not lupus )
17. Growing up, 3 different teachers encouraged me to see a therapist
18. I never did
19. I own a perfect replica of a Picasso self portrait. I love that picture.
20. I'm a terrible dancer
21. I love vintage clothing like hats and vests
22. I competed in the British national athletics championship final when I was 12 yrs old (100m hurdles and 4x100m relay)
23. I didn't win, but it was a a lot of fun
24. My favourite number is 46
25. I've never shot a man in Reno just to watch him die

kronosposeidon (Member Profile)

jwray says...

check out this

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
I'm lazy, so I just went to Wikipedia to learn about this controversy. If what the article states is true, then it sounds like the scientific jury may still be out on this issue:

One review from the US found little evidence to link mercury fillings to health problems[1] while the other from Germany found that removal of dental amalgam lead to permanent improvement of various chronic complaints in a relevant number of patients in various trials.[2]

Therefore I think it's a legitimate scientific debate, even if the ADA maintains that mercury amalgam is safe. For example, for some people with autoimmune disorders removing mercury amalgam has been beneficial. I don't know where the preponderance of research points for the general public, however, because I am no expert.

Just one man's opinion.

Mercury vapor from dental fillings

rembar says...

Wikipedia is in general a non-optimal resource when it comes to things like this, because the NPOV rules lean to the sort of "teach the controversy" kind of middle-ground bs that lets people get away with framing some things as "issues" that shouldn't be. I looked up but couldn't read the 2nd citation because it's in German. If you can find a translation of the entire paper, rather than just the abstract, I'll take a swing at it.

But first, check the paper you linked. So the patients with autoimmune disorders in the study were specifically selected for lymphocyte reactivity to mercury, ok, that's already bringing it out of the original question about general amalgam safety. Then note the discussion, in which it is observed that health worsened for some of the patients in treatment, but this effect was dismissed because of smoking...wonder about the smoking habits for all the rest of the patients? Hmmm..... Then consider the materials and methods where the setup for determining whether a patient was getting better or worse was described. Any good, quantitative analysis there? Oh, and then there's the fact that the study had a sample of 35 people, of which four diseases were represented, and of which the maximum number of people in one disease category was 15.

....hm. I mean, there's some shaky ground, and that's even for their very specific case of people suffering from immune disorders with high lymphocyte reactivity to mercury, who, it does seem reasonable, might be better suited for non-mercury treatments. As for the general public...well, there's a reason I don't feel particularly inclined to argue about this "issue".

Oh, and Qruel....lol.

>> ^kronosposeidon:
I'm lazy, so I just went to Wikipedia to learn about this controversy. If what the article states is true, then it sounds like the scientific jury may still be out on this issue:
One review from the US found little evidence to link mercury fillings to health problems[1] while the other from Germany found that removal of dental amalgam lead to permanent improvement of various chronic complaints in a relevant number of patients in various trials.[2]
Therefore I think it's a legitimate scientific debate, even if the ADA maintains that mercury amalgam is safe. For example, for some people with autoimmune disorders removing mercury amalgam has been beneficial. I don't know where the preponderance of research points for the general public, however, because I am no expert.
Just one man's opinion.

Mercury vapor from dental fillings

kronosposeidon says...

I'm lazy, so I just went to Wikipedia to learn about this controversy. If what the article states is true, then it sounds like the scientific jury may still be out on this issue:

One review from the US found little evidence to link mercury fillings to health problems[1] while the other from Germany found that removal of dental amalgam lead to permanent improvement of various chronic complaints in a relevant number of patients in various trials.[2]

Therefore I think it's a legitimate scientific debate, even if the ADA maintains that mercury amalgam is safe. For example, for some people with autoimmune disorders removing mercury amalgam has been beneficial. I don't know where the preponderance of research points for the general public, however, because I am no expert.

Just one man's opinion.

Oliver the "Humanzee"

snoozedoctor says...

"Arthritis is an autoimmune disorder."
Remember, there are multiple forms of arthritis. The most common is osteoarthritis which is basically wear and tear. It's mostly traumatic arthritis. The autoimmune types, like rheumatoid and lupus-associated, are less common.

This was damn fascinating. I'd never heard of this ape. If this was a "mutated" chimp, it would be startling evidence from the wild that a sudden, chance, and dramatic mutation could be beneficial. It could have allowed him advantages over others in the wild. His lack of interest in the chimp ladies would have prevented his passing on his mutation, but it seems maybe his preference for the ladies was influenced by who he was around during sexual maturation. Beggars can't be choosers. Seems like he was doing his best to get some romancing. Who knows, in a dim-lit smoky bar and a few whiskey sours, he might have had some luck.

A "super strong chimp army" could be easily enough defeated with booby-trapped bananas. The Soviets should have known that.

Oliver the "Humanzee"

jwray says...

He could be a chimaera: part chimp and part human-chimp hybrid. That would perfectly explain the original DNA test results. A proper human-chimp hybrid would have 47 chromosomes in every cell, but only a few of Oliver's cells were that way and the rest were chimp cells. Over time his immune system might preferentially destroy the hybrid cells. Arthritis is an autoimmune disorder.

Why Soy Is NOT a Health Food

plastiquemonkey says...

this guy isn't a medical doctor, he's an osteopath.

his website sells relaxation tapes and dietary supplements. he's been warned by the FDA. he's against microwave ovens, pasteurized milk, fluoridated water, prescription drugs, and vaccines.

the science here is misleading and wrong. just for one example, the "epidemic of thyroid impairment" he refers to has nothing to do with soy products. with aging, people become more and more likely to have low thyroid function caused by autoimmune ("hashimoto's") thyroiditis. it's not usually a serious condition, and it's easily treated with a thyroid hormone pill (Synthroid, or eltroxin).

the most common form of thyroid disease in young people used to be iodine deficiency, but that's never seen in north america now that salt is iodized. the "goitrogens" he mentions that are found in soy (as well as broccoli, cauliflower, and cabbage) interfere with iodine metabolism -- but have no significant effect on thyroid function unless the person is iodine-deficient (which is now unheard of). so you can eat soy without worrying about developing a goitre (enlarged thyroid).

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