LOL. I dont know why I even bother.

First of all, I'm not even in the northern hemisphere (again, you're bubble) and have no love for Trump or white-supremacists. In fact I'm half Maori so I guess that makes you're whole argument moot.

I really fear for our future with all the closed minded, bubble living idiots like you coming out of the wood-work now.

All the internet warriors really came out of the wood works this time.

GG guys.

so i am sitting here drinking my coffee reading this thread and i have to say...

depressing.

so many wonderful people that i admire and respect getting twisted about?

words.

not the intent,nor over-all context..but words.

i can see where @newtboy is coming from,and what he is laying down is pretty non-controversial.i also see what @bareboards2 is laying down,and is not really in opposition to what newt is talking about.

both ideologies can reside in the same context and not be in conflict.in fact they compliment each other and ....and maybe i am reading their positions wrong..they actually agree on the fundamentals.

@bareboards2 actually addressed this by pointing out that "tone" can be misinterpreted.(good for you BB) and really the exchange between newt and BB was about their own self-identification.

yet this entire thread is almost exclusively focusing on words,and the gravitas and weight given to those words by the individual,which is subjective.

i feel newts pain.
i had a run where i was posting videos exposing hyper-militant third wave feminists and how they were using the justice system to punish those who disagreed with them,and every self-identified feminist came out of the wood work to declare their disappointment in me and defend the very thing they identified with.

what confused me was why people would even attempt to defend that absolute cluster fuck of abuse as somehow even being remotely to do with actual feminism.until i realized that many hadn't even watched the video or read the articles .so they were not defending those third wave feminists that had abused a justice system but rather defending a term that they self-identified as.

after long (and i mean long ..@Payback is still in therapy) back and forths between myself and fellow sifters.when i FINALLY got them to address the specific situation,not one...not ONE sifter..felt morally obligated to defend those feminists actions.

why?
because taken on its singular merits,those feminists were fucking wrong.

then why all the defensive posturing?
why the passive aggressive swipes at me?
and the exhaustive back and forths just to get self-identified feminists to at least admit that those particular feminists had abused their position to punish a man for simply disagreeing.

because they were defending feminism in general.
because they self-identified as feminists and failed to see the situation as it was and jumped to defend a WORD that they happened to identify with.

as a whole we can,as a society hold onto philosophies that are not mutually exclusive.
so you can be a feminist and a humanist.
or a humanist and an MRA advocate.

@bareboards2 may be a feminist but i know that if she witnessed me being harassed and discriminated against she would jump to my defense,as would @newtboy.

there are people who identify as something and yet can still be major dickweeds.so what they self-identify as does not automatically give them a pass.

so dont get so caught up in identity politics my friends.
they are just words after all.
just listen to the person talking,they will reveal if they are a total tool soon enough.how they self-identify is irrelevant.

Very useful if you build a wood house and do wood work in general. Not really useful for a standard house, but maybe more like a cabin or work shed.

My brother in laws brother was out hundreds of miles away from help in the Alaskan woods working on a cabin and put a chainsaw right into his leg. Bad juju.... these are worth it

No sir. Sensible sane and rational people(sarcasm intended) would treat sponsorship of Olympic games similarly if sayyy, the Olympic committee used child labor or trashed the environment building the arena and got corporate sponsors behind them....Wouldn't we then have to listen to the same type of gimps, the same who trash their own powers of reason, come out of the wood-works to protest that horrifying scenario!?? Watch them boycott coco-cola and mc donalds then?



WHAT CREATES THE LOWER-CLASS PEOPLE anyway, duh???

All governments work the same dude, a few people force the masses to perform according to their rules or be fined or imprisoned.

Draaakonian bullshit.

Personally, I boycott coke and mc donalds because their food is non-nutritive shit that causes diabetic epidemics in adults and children-Less is more.

Besides, corporate sponsorship of anything is a waste of resources when the same could be used for advancement both physically and spiritually of the entire species.

It's 2014 sir, and pretty much ALL governments and law enforcement works on the same arcane model, be they called democracies or dictatorships....po-tay-to, fucking pa-tah-to

What's with these PI Lawyer cunts (unrighteous livelihood) coming out o the wood works? *ban all these motherfuckers....

Your video, Working Pair of Pliers Carved from Wood, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.

Nope not a good place I live less than an hour away and right when you start to enter Inglewood you see nothing but houses and apartments with bars on the windows. Place looks decent during the day but night time is not a good time the hood rats come out of the wood work.

Ch Ch Chingalera comes outta the wood works channeling choggie and calls BS On Cenk Uyguuur and his brand of pontificous diversion disguised as some analgesic vegetable lozenge that so many walking-aneurisms seem to fawn over........Fuck him AND fuck Tom Brokaw


Cenks a douchebag, and his editorializing sucks balls and follows a well-scripted formula...he sucks at what he does..dirty work for assholes.-

Oh you don't like how they try to use personality tests, GPA, and the infamous "career day" to help kids decide? I'm still not sure what I could stand to do for the rest of my life, and that's mainly because everything they tried to tell me was not helpful and everything you look into is not what people claim it to be.

Which I view as a failing of colleges, since young people are paying money to go into things they only have a very vague notion of and unless their parents or a close relative do the job, no one is going to provide them with straight answers in a vast majority of the time. Assuming they even consider what careers to ask about or what questions to ask about said careers.

I hold it up as proof that colleges at this time are there to get people in and out of programs while milking them for as much as possible, but don't actually take the time to evaluate that their programs provide the building blocks the student would need to follow the job path they THINK they want. The colleges don't care if the students presumptions are wrong.

I also view elementary to high school as bypassing a lot of common knowledge, common sense, life skills, etc things kids should learn. Like electric safety and basic repairs, basic automotive/mechanic/tool usage, cooking/laundry basics, and probably the most important of all nutrition and exercise. You see people on the news having heatstroke and everything else because they don't drink enough fluids or don't realize that not sweating is a really bad thing. Plus proper stretching and all that. I mean I remember them having wood working classes, and it didn't even focus on things you might actually run into that you could repair on your own without having some major equipment.

Education is great, but too many people come out of high school and college with a lot of knowledge, no applicable skills to a field, and almost no rudimentary skills to speak of. And this isn't saying they should be trained for jobs, this is saying they have enough of a common life skill set that they can at least somewhat measure what is required in positions. Right now, everyone claims they can do everything and they really know very little.

But Im with you there on the TNG DNA job matching.....wish we had it. No politics, nepotism, and what not to throw a wrench into everything.

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^chilaxe:
@NetRunner 'everyone who qualifies for college should go for free.'
Just what we need, more lazy, talentless graduates with a heart-warming "culture studies" or "environmental studies" degree working for minimum wage at Starbucks.
I have too many friends to count who got useless college degrees and now, ten years later, are still doing nothing with their lives.

So free choice didn't make people lead full and productive lives? Imagine that.
Snark aside, I don't really see why more scholarships would change things. I'm not talking about making college compulsory, I'm talking about taking monetary cost out of the equation when discussing whether you go or not.
Remember that episode of ST:TNG where all the kids on the Enterprise got kidnapped by an alien race, and they did tests on their DNA, and then told them what their career would be and immediately put them to work? They were fun professions too, like musician, sculptor, engineer, etc.
I sometimes think I would've personally preferred that to having to figure out in my teenage years what kind of career would appeal to me, acquire the skills and training required by that career, and then find a job. It seems like our education system should expend a greater effort on that, rather than just presenting kids with ever-larger menus of classes to take and degrees to earn.

I disagree with you Bobknight,

By your own words, you said the money supply within the US has gone up 271%. That would mean the economy is coming back from the recession. Unless of course, your FOR recessions in my country?

Unlike the last idiot we had in the White House, this guy understands things. Following the status quo only servers to polarize the left and ring wings more. Results in the extremists from either side coming out of the wood work, feeling its 'ok' to launch attacks (including threats of violence) with impunity. Is THAT, what you want for my country?

So far, Bobknight, you sound like an enemy of the USA, not a citizen or friend of it.

And truthfully, Mr. Obama does not want to take over health care. There are, quite alot of problems with the health care system in the USA. There is no silver bullet solution like the GOP is brainwashing you with. Nor, is this guy trying to take over in some sort of hidden agenda or 'grab for power'. Funny that the last guy tried to do that, but not a single Republican said a word.

Somethings that should be done regarding the health care system in the USA:
A) Get our 40-50 million citizens who dont have coverage, some sort of coverage. The long term benefit will save us, and the short term gain is those who skip seeing a doctor over serious issues, can get help.

B) Setting up the legal system, so that health care companies can not act in together, or conspire against Americans on the rate of health care. As it stands now, there are no anti-trust laws in effect for the health care industry. Wouldnt you want such laws in effect for our health? Drinking water? Food system & supply?

C) Set up a system that gives a base level of care coverage across the board. Makes companies accountable to the level of care they give. That gives a bonus to companies that get things done right the first time, and starts penalizing the longer and deeper screw ups take place. As it stands now, if a hospital screws up, or you catch an illiness inside, chances are you will be back to the hospital for further treatment. Does that sound like a wise policy to have?

D) Set up a system for preventive medicine. Give Americans a tax saving or incentive to eat right, exercise, and live better. That is like free money to go work at the gym, and be healthy in the process. Your against looking and feeling good?

E) Behave in a civil manner. Yes, even idiots that have no clue how to behave in society, can get a fair say at town hall meetings. When people come together, discuss the issue(s) at hand as reasonable, mature, and forward thinkers, great things take place. Founding fathers did it, why cant we? They didnt have 1 billionith the tools we have at our disposal. Or are you as Rep. Barney Frank put it "just a dinning room table'?

Yes, there are alot of issues, and the president has his work cut out for him. Rather then waste your time, with your fearful and childish rant. Why not be productive and learn what is the issue, and how it can help the USA on this issue.

and that's why I'm not into wood working.

Now why wouldn't those little things curl or warp when they go through the dryer? Anyone who does wood working knows how easily wood warps as it drys.

Mystified!

wow people with the nunchuk skills and bo hunting skills just come out of the wood work to correct each other in this comments section!