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Ronda Rousey's Thoughts on Fighting a Man and Equality

lucky760 says...

I like your point a lot and totally agree with it. If they add a sister championship class, it'd be great to see the existing one renamed. So although their action of adding women as pseudo-equals is great, they obviously aren't stomping their feet to promote equality. "Look, we renamed it to 'MEN's bantamweight champion' aren't we great and progressive!"

It's definitely like @GenjiKilpatrick says, that it's business driven, but my reply to that is: so what? To me that's kind of a huge part of the point.

The WNBA, WPGA, etc. exist as separate organizations probably in large part because they carry on different advertising relationships and get different television airing days/times and different venues, etc.

To me it's a pretty big deal that the UFC's business is relying on the fact that women competitors can just be thrown right into the same pay-per-views, advertising, venues, etc. as the men. That they can do that and that they do do that means they aren't second-class fighters and they are as good as the men in generating business.

ChaosEngine said:

Sorry, but it's nowhere near as sex blind as she makes out.

Fine, I get that they don't want to have men fighting women. Personally, I don't have a problem with it (I train with women all the time). The important point is that it's not a man "beating up" a woman, it's a man "competing with" a woman where both parties are consenting.

But look at this page of weight classes.

Ronda Rousey's Thoughts on Fighting a Man and Equality

ChaosEngine says...

Sorry, but it's nowhere near as sex blind as she makes out.

Fine, I get that they don't want to have men fighting women. Personally, I don't have a problem with it (I train with women all the time). The important point is that it's not a man "beating up" a woman, it's a man "competing with" a woman where both parties are consenting.

But look at this page of weight classes.


BANTAMWEIGHT TJ DILLASHAW
WOMEN'S BANTAMWEIGHT RONDA ROUSEY

(emphasis mine)

If you have to have separate titles, why is one the "womens bantamweight" title and the other is just the plain old "bantamweight" title?

Sorry, but it's exactly the same as golf, tennis, or basketball. The men's competition is the "X/Y/Z champion" and the women's is the "women's X/Y/Z competition".

It might not seem like much, but omitting "Men's" from the bantamweight title makes it the default, "real" competition and the "women's" is the secondary.

lucky760 said:

@newtboy - There is a men's and a women's bantamweight *title* because the men and women don't fight each other, so they can't have just one title, but they aren't separated as different "men" and "women" divisions. Subtle difference, but still very meaningful I think.



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