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ant (Member Profile)

Greenville Ca, 8-5-21 After Burning To The Ground Overnight

StukaFox says...

True story:

When the total solar eclipse was visible in the western United States, my friend Matt and I watched it in a little town called Detroit, Oregon.

Two years later, it burned to ground.

In mid-June of this year, Matt and I drove through Greenville on the way to our annual camping trip.

Yeah.

Hey, Bob, what town do you live in?

(just kidding!)

Solar eclipse as seen from a plane

StukaFox says...

One of my favorite Bucket List checkoffs was watching a total solar eclipse from beginning to end. Seriously, if you get a chance to see one, TAKE IT! There are no words to describe how incredible the sight is, or the feeling of awe at the first second of totality. I could have lived without the 12-hour traffic jam getting back to Seattle, 'tho.

Sadly, the location I watched it from -- Detroit, Oregon -- burned to the ground two years later.

Mordhaus (Member Profile)

Mordhaus (Member Profile)

The Day Jesus Returns

Sagemind says...

Well, in the first few seconds, although this all sounds very poetic...

The moon does not "give light" it reflects light, so if there was an eclipse, then this would mean there would be no sun to reflect, so although partially true. these are both the same point.

And I can assure you the stars will not fall from the sky. You can tell this was written before we knew that stars were actually just distant suns. So written out of ignorance.

So this prophesy immediately looses credibility.

After that it just falls to creative writing all based on the natural occurrence of a solar eclipse. That's it. An eclipse. Someone in ancient times used a natural occurrence to evoke fear and sow seeds of of a story because people were uneducated and didn't know what it was.

Today we know what an eclipse is. We're educated, so why do people still fall for these stories. they're obviously written out of ignorance (unknowing) of what is now common knowledge.

@shinyblurry, I respect your personal religion. I endorse your need to believe in something to give you strength where you are weak. But educate yourself. Don't listen to this rhetoric and outdated nonsense. Be smart. I know you're an educated man. Don't hide behind this obvious and poorly written prose.
And definitely, don't sow this stuff to others. It just makes you look ignorant to educated people. You have a brain, and if you believe in a god, then you need to believe you were given a brain to use it. So do some thinking for yourself. You and your family will benefit from the use of a little intelligence.

I'm not saying you can't believe in your God. I'm just saying don't forsake intelligence. And if you can't engage in intelligent conversation, then don't preach using rhetoric created by people who where uneducated.


(EDIT: Sorry to be blunt. Sometimes we need blunt. I'm not trying to be mean. I've been learning that sometimes blunt is the only way to get through to stubborn people. I myself am stubborn - but smart enough to see, when pointed out, my errors in what I may think of this world - we are here to live and to learn, lets engage our brains).

nanrod (Member Profile)

"Stupidity of American Voter," critical to passing Obamacare

shinyblurry says...

here is another NASA page:

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/30may_solareclipse/

I guess all these people are wrong too:

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/life-unbounded/2012/05/18/the-solar-eclipse-coincidence/

http://www.space.com/15584-solar-eclipses.html

http://space-facts.com/solar-eclipse/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse

http://www.astronomy.com/news-observing/ask%20astro/2000/10/why%20is%20the%20moon%20exactly%20the%20same%20apparent%20size%20from%20earth%20as%20the%2
0sun%20surely%20this%20cannot%20be%20just%20coincidence%20the%20odds%20against%20such%20a%20perfect%20match%20are%20enormous

It is simple math and I am not sure why you are having trouble with it. The Sun is 149,600,000 kilometers away. Divide that by 400 and you get 374000 kilometers, which is about the distance of the Moon from the Earth. I notice you're doing quite a bit of gymnastics to avoid the point.

newtboy said:

No need to argue, their info on that page is clearly wrong. The math is simple.
It's perplexing that what appears to be a NASA page is so wrong about such a simple equation and data, but that's the fact.
EDIT:Oh, I see, this is a NASA "partner" page, not a NASA page. Still, there's absolutely no excuse for the incredibly poor math skills they exhibit.

"Stupidity of American Voter," critical to passing Obamacare

shinyblurry says...

You can argue with Nasa if you like:

http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/review/dr-marc-earth/moon-general.html

"The Moon's size and distance contribute to a wonderful coincidence for those of us who live here on Earth. The Moon is about 400 times smaller than the Sun, but it also just happens to be about 400 times closer. The result is that from Earth, they appear to be the same size. And when its orbit around Earth takes the Moon directly between Earth and the Sun, the Moon blocks our view of the Sun in what we call a solar eclipse. This is just the same as when you use your thumb to block your view of something that is both much larger and much farther away."

The approximation means that the Sun and Moon appear to be the same size in the sky, making eclipses possible. The fact that the Moon is receding every year means that our existence at this time when they are approximate would have to be a big coincidence. That is the point I was making..

newtboy said:

Radius is not size.
The distance to the sun is 384835 times the distance to the moon.
Stories are not evidence.
The man in the video doesn't understand 'science' at all.
Enough said.

"Stupidity of American Voter," critical to passing Obamacare

shinyblurry says...

Well, the radius of the moon is about 1,080 miles, and the radius of the Sun is about 432,687 miles.
Do I need to say the rest of your grasp of the science involved is not firm?


Newtboy, please pull out a calculator and punch in 1080 x 400..the answer is 432000.

http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/review/dr-marc-earth/moon-general.html

"The Moon's size and distance contribute to a wonderful coincidence for those of us who live here on Earth. The Moon is about 400 times smaller than the Sun, but it also just happens to be about 400 times closer. The result is that from Earth, they appear to be the same size. And when its orbit around Earth takes the Moon directly between Earth and the Sun, the Moon blocks our view of the Sun in what we call a solar eclipse. This is just the same as when you use your thumb to block your view of something that is both much larger and much farther away."

See, my fairy tale tells me that giant bean stalks are real

I think you have a misunderstanding of what faith is. I have faith that the Sun will rise tomorrow because the evidence shows that it is more likely to happen than not. No one could prove that it would, but my faith is justified based on the evidence. In the same way, I have faith that Christianity is true based on the evidence of the life death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe the evidence is extraordinary and sufficient to place my faith in, and that the contrary case is insufficient. Have you ever studied the evidence for the resurrection? If you haven't then you have rejected it based on your preconceived notions and biases rather than because you believe the evidence is insufficient. There are plenty of things we take on faith and believe and are perfectly rational for doing so. Here is a highlight that talks about 5 different things we all take on faith:


newtboy said:

Oh Shiny....SOOO much and so large a failure of fact here....
A quick science fact for YOU....(cut and pasted from Google)

"Stupidity of American Voter," critical to passing Obamacare

shinyblurry says...

Hey Newtboy,

God provided four major lines of evidence so that you would know that He exists. The first is Creation itself:

Rom 1:18-20 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.

For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.

For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

His existence is so evident from the Creation that He considers that people are without excuse for their unbelief.

A quick science fact for you:

The Moon is 400 times smaller than the Sun, and the Sun is 400 times farther away from the Moon. This is the reason they appear to be the same size in the sky. The Moon is also receding from the Earth at a few centimeters at year. This would mean it is only a “coincidence” that we happen to live at a time that the Sun and Moon have an exact correspondence in the sky, making solar eclipses possible. Yet, the scripture says God created the Sun and the Moon for signs and seasons, for days and years. The amount of “coincidences” really adds up to an absurdity when you study the conditions necessary for us to be here. You can find a good study on that here:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Privileged-Planet-John-Rhys-Davies/dp/B0002E34C0

The other lines of evidence are your conscience, the life death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and bible prophecy. I understand, perhaps, where you’re coming from. It very much has to do with what your worldview is. If you start apriori with the idea that there is no supernatural and no divine being, you won’t recognize the evidence right in front of your face. You will instead embrace alternative explanations for the origins of life which appear to be pragmatic but start with a greater amount of faith required than a belief in an all powerful Creator God.

newtboy said:

I'll just re-iterate my point...

Who are you to question God's wanting me to NOT believe in him?
If He's the creator, He created my curious, evidence requiring brain and also He refused to provide ANY evidence (anecdotal evidence is not evidence) of his existence, therefore IF he exists, he clearly wants me to not believe in him.
Stop fighting against god's wishes.

Drew Carey - 101 Big Dick Jokes

notarobot says...

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lucky760 said:

Hey, I got robbed. Was that all 101? It seems to be cut off.

Martian Eclipse (Phobos transits the sun)

Drax (Member Profile)

gwiz665 says...

Well... were you in character?

In reply to this comment by Drax:
editing out overly caffeinated fail attempt at a funny reply..

edit-
You go with that!

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Heh, this is like the greatest excuse ever. Whenever I do something stupid from now on, I'm just "in character"

In reply to this comment by Drax:
>> ^Psychologic:
So if the sun turns off then everyone freezes instantly? I'm sure he's seen a solar eclipse at some point, or at the very least that time between dusk and dawn. =)
I demand this video make sense!




He feigns that he's not very book smart.. like in the Phantom Menace review he starts making references to the Cuban missile crisis and ends up saying, "Oh I don't know.. maybe you've heard of it... a little something called WORLD WAR 1?!!" (which had me rolling out of my seat almost).

The instant freeze gag caused me to double take too, then I remembered he was in character. This guy's awesome.

gwiz665 (Member Profile)

Drax says...

editing out overly caffeinated fail attempt at a funny reply..

edit-
You go with that!

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Heh, this is like the greatest excuse ever. Whenever I do something stupid from now on, I'm just "in character"

In reply to this comment by Drax:
>> ^Psychologic:
So if the sun turns off then everyone freezes instantly? I'm sure he's seen a solar eclipse at some point, or at the very least that time between dusk and dawn. =)
I demand this video make sense!




He feigns that he's not very book smart.. like in the Phantom Menace review he starts making references to the Cuban missile crisis and ends up saying, "Oh I don't know.. maybe you've heard of it... a little something called WORLD WAR 1?!!" (which had me rolling out of my seat almost).

The instant freeze gag caused me to double take too, then I remembered he was in character. This guy's awesome.



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