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chingalera says...(Chingalera Profile Page)
Below is an example of 'baiting'. I made the public announcement that I would be taking a hiatus from the site to draw-out the quarry: A person who would use his time spraying graffiti on a user's private personal area with a view to no resolution or truth, no self-awareness with the hope of a mutual understanding, rather than engaging in a civil and private discussion about his particular beef with me, chicco now comes with Krylon in-hand.

Unable to defend the indefensible, he degrades into personal-attacks and provocation with a single goal in mind-To attempt to compromise my integrity and provoke some public outburst.

Ain't gonna happen this time sir. I call bullshit when I see it, always have, always will.
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chingalera says...
As I have asked civilly of you many times chicco, I would appreciate you not making comments to my profile page anything but a private matter. Again, and as have others I have asked (as I extend the courtesy to all, up-front) you simply ignore my requests of decorum because you understand that it is perhaps a type of balm for your self-injury this pestering me and poking at me personally. You rudely disregard this civil request made several times.

Ok, if you think it's a clever trap then that's what it is...a simpler explanation may very well be that once again one or a team of sophomoric pricks have a personal hard-on to see someone burn so they come to shit all over their profile page in that user's absence. This has been perpetrated before by other pricks with the same m.o. and those all tend to remain long-gone, but the flavor after the waft of their of shit continues to linger.

Again, no respect for my privacy.

(To the community-at-large, I continually ask chichorrea whom I have rubbed the wrong way by exposing his unilateral weakness to having his lying and cruelty exposed to remain private in spewing bile upon my profile page an in my absence, he instead litters it like some billboard advertisement announcing 'horseshit for sale')

If you are bound and determined with your unilateral project chicco and you know I'll bite to defend my integrity, why not wait until I come back to participate on this site with the community in-mind before throwing pebbles at my back door?

Who is actually displaying the cowardice here? Really?!

chicchorea said:
...oh, and here too....

There have been a number of posts whereby your conspicuous and transparent absence of response amply confirms all of my, and others' long before me, assertions about your dishonesty and cowardice. Further, your uncharacteristic cleaning house via deleting your profile pages of comments and most notably mine but retaining those of Newtboy whom you think you have bettered is telling as well.

...jailbaited you with this rat trap and you were all over it though. Weak minded and predictable you are.

You cannot refute that which I have repeatedly and amply purported and you dare not challenge me to evidentially support what I have lain down so you run and hide just occasionally sticking your head up to spew your drivel only to duck and cover again.

Run,,,run 'little...thing"...run.

I will be waiting. As you said where you should have not, "ain't done bruhh..."
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@chingalera, Alrighty then...

There have been a number of posts whereby your conspicuous and transparent absence of response amply confirms all of my, and others' long before me, assertions about your dishonesty and cowardice. Further, your uncharacteristic cleaning house via deleting your profile pages of comments and most notably mine but retaining those of Newtboy whom you think you have bettered is telling as well.

...jailbaited you with this rat trap and you were all over it though. Weak minded and predictable you are.

You cannot refute that which I have repeatedly and amply purported and you dare not challenge me to evidentially support what I have lain down so you run and hide just occasionally sticking your head up to spew your drivel only to duck and cover again.

Run,,,run 'little...thing"...run.

I will be waiting. As you said where you should have not, "ain't done bruhh..."

In Soviet Russia, rat traps you. Is what I would have said but then someone beat me to it :'(

>> ^campionidelmondo:
In soviet russia ...


...rats trap you!

@NetRunner . There is a difference!!!! finding a $20 bill in the street is not stealing. Taking the bike from in front of the store is. Its very simple, no need for confusion.What a person does after finding the money is a seperate moral decision. I dont think that guy took the bike home and then tried to go find the rightful owner, even if he did, he still stole the bike in the first place. You ask "why is there a difference?" I say, There just is.... Why ask why?

As far as me bringing up race. Gimme a break. I was bringing up species. There is a big difference. Clearly this video is a race arguement waitng to happen, but I was not going there. I really was tring to say that man and beast are completly different, and reject the comparison of tempting a man with a kids bicycle to a piece of cheese in a rat trap.

I dont think everything has to be taken to the extreme. Nobody got murderd, blown up or decapitated. So we dont have to discuss this video like those things did happen . And I think most of the world agrees with that.
Your arguement that tempting people to break the law should net a person shared responsabilty with the criminal wont be very popular with a scantily clad rape victim.


>> ^NetRunner:
@csnel, I started typing "I'm not saying there's no difference", but as soon as I wrote that I thought, "why is there a difference?"
I mean, unless I thought I dropped the $20, it's taking someone else's property. Why doesn't that condemn me to whatever trap the owner of the $20 bill laid for someone who stole his money?
I do understand that we don't tend to think of bills of currency as a piece of our property, since we don't care which $20 bill we have in our wallet so long as we have the total amount we expect in there, but still unless you think you're the one who dropped it, what right do you have to take something that isn't yours?
Anyways, back to the animal comparison, you did actually bring race, or at least genetics, into it when you said:

You are suggesting that he is just geneticly unable to not take the bait, Not smart enough to leave it alone.

@csnel3, I'd be like a rat too if someone laid a twenty dollar bill on the sidewalk in front of me and had booby trapped it in some way I didn't see. I wouldn't hesitate to snatch it up.

I'm serious, I didn't mean it as a demeaning assessment of the guy who stole the bike, just as an analogous situation -- if you lay a trap with bait to injure or kill a rat, you're responsible for what happens to the rat. If you lay a trap with bait to injure or kill a person, you're responsible for what happens to the person.

I probably should have said "bear trap" instead of rat trap because it wouldn't have the same negative connotation, but then I don't think you were offended by my lapse in political correctness.

The fact that the comparison delighted you so much seems like I very much should keep turning this back on you. You were "seriously amused" by it. Why? What is it about me saying something like that tickles you so much?

I mean, I'd understand if the comparison offended you (or anyone else), but it shouldn't have been funny at all. Ideally it should have made things click into place, and made you feel a bit horrified about the events in the video.

I didnt mean to be kinda funny. I really am amused by the way you compare the perp in this video to a rat attracted to cheese in a trap. Dont turn this back on me , you are the one who made the comparison.
No, I dont believe we can do anything we want to criminals, but, I'm all for reasonable actions againt the assholes of this world. >> ^NetRunner:
>> ^csnel3:
Yes! This is classic! you are comparing the thief to a rat that cant help himself from eating the cheese even though it may be a trap. You are suggesting that he is just geneticly unable to not take the bait, Not smart enough to leave it alone.
That is a really bad analogy on your part.... Or are you exactly right, this guy and people like him are comparable to rats?
>> ^NetRunner:
It's sort of like claiming someone laying down rat traps isn't responsible for killing the rats the traps catch -- those rats killed themselves because they were taking cheese they didn't own!


I'm saying that if you can predict someone's behavior, and use that ability to harm them, you're culpable for the damage you incur on your victim.
If I drop a pot of gold coins on the street, but and have it rigged to blow up if anyone moves the pot or takes a coin from it, am I really immune from all guilt?
It's kinda funny that you read that to be some sort of racist/eugenical comment. How about you, do you think thieves are genetically inferior people who's rights don't need to be respected? It might explain why you think people should be allowed to do as much harm as they like to them without being held legally responsible for it.

@NetRunner
So far you have deployed pens that blow up, landmines and exploding pots of gold. I can only assume the rat traps contain a nuclear component?

>> ^csnel3:
Yes! This is classic! you are comparing the thief to a rat that cant help himself from eating the cheese even though it may be a trap. You are suggesting that he is just geneticly unable to not take the bait, Not smart enough to leave it alone.
That is a really bad analogy on your part.... Or are you exactly right, this guy and people like him are comparable to rats?
>> ^NetRunner:
It's sort of like claiming someone laying down rat traps isn't responsible for killing the rats the traps catch -- those rats killed themselves because they were taking cheese they didn't own!



I'm saying that if you can predict someone's behavior, and use that ability to harm them, you're culpable for the damage you incur on your victim.

If I drop a pot of gold coins on the street, but and have it rigged to blow up if anyone moves the pot or takes a coin from it, am I really immune from all guilt?

It's kinda funny that you read that to be some sort of racist/eugenical comment. How about you, do you think thieves are genetically inferior people who's rights don't need to be respected? It might explain why you think people should be allowed to do as much harm as they like to them without being held legally responsible for it.

Yes! This is classic! you are comparing the thief to a rat that cant help himself from eating the cheese even though it may be a trap. You are suggesting that he is just geneticly unable to not take the bait, Not smart enough to leave it alone.
That is a really bad analogy on your part.... Or are you exactly right, this guy and people like him are comparable to rats?

>> ^NetRunner:
It's sort of like claiming someone laying down rat traps isn't responsible for killing the rats the traps catch -- those rats killed themselves because they were taking cheese they didn't own!

People keep suggesting hypotheticals where the person owning the bike a) didn't try to get his bike stolen, and b) didn't intentionally make the bike dangerous.

I agree, when both of those things are true, I don't think the bike owner owes the thief jack shit.

Neither is true in this case. The bike owner made his bike dangerous, and then tried to get his bike stolen -- he even changed locations to a high-crime area because no one stole it fast enough. He also made those intentions clear in a film, along with film of him successfully getting someone to ride the sabotaged bike and fall (and possibly get injured).

Ordinarily it would be hard to prove that the bike owner wanted his bike stolen, and that he intentionally sabotaged it. A bike thief presenting this theory without evidence would rightly be laughed out of court. However, the bike owner provided us hard evidence of this (i.e. the video), which changes the situation.

Just because he could have left the bike there in a dangerous state without meaning to hurt anyone doesn't matter. That isn't the actual situation depicted.

It's sort of like claiming someone laying down rat traps isn't responsible for killing the rats the traps catch -- those rats killed themselves because they were taking cheese they didn't own!

Shit if I was a rat trapped in a cage with no other life choices out for me I would abuse cocaine to death as well.

we've substituted this normal mousetrap for a T-Rex rat trap!
http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/TREXTRAP.JPG

love that Fox news stroke a' genius to have the Rat Trap marquis with the Colonel's sick face....You folks think Global Warming is bad.....America's diet will wipe out humanity long before the smoke stacks will......Stop Poisoning Your Bodies With Foooooooooood!

OUCH MAN!!!!

did you see that Rat Trap on collins toe!!!!!

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