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USAF Veteran taking a stand against NFL

bobknight33 says...

I applaud him for standing up for a cause he believes in. It just the wrong venue. With all the millions sports figures make and all the media at their beckon call this can be handled in a different venue.

It as he said not slight on the military at all. However, somethings just take on a life on its own.



Hand up don't shoot ... that swept across America after 2014 shooting of Michael Brown. Fact is this saying was never uttered by Michael Brown or anyone else. It was just a false claim by an witness.

Media, spin doctors and organizers take what they want and damn be truth.

MilkmanDan said:

I think it was probably a sifted video that first got me to look up Kaepernick's actual statements from about 2 years ago when he started sitting out the anthem in protest. There's a great post-game interview where he made himself available and answered questions from many reporters etc. about his motivations, etc.


To me, it seems impossible to watch that with an open mind and come away with the Fox News narrative on the guy intact. He straight-up says that it wasn't ever meant to be taken as a slight on the military at all. He clearly and rather eloquently explains what it was/is about for him. He acknowledged that there would likely be consequences, which certainly came true.

Maybe he wouldn't be a QB in the NFL even if he'd have just kept quiet and been a good little conformist, but he got to a point where he didn't feel he could do that.

So, at least in my eyes, kudos to him for standing up for what he believes in. Even after losing his primary soapbox (being an NFL player), he's still putting the issue out there with Nike's help. I don't necessarily trust their motivations -- all publicity is good publicity, after all -- but after having heard his own statements I sure as hell trust his as being 100% genuine.

John Oliver - Crisis Pregnancy Centers

bobknight33 says...

You mean cops doing their job.. Yep I support. ( Are there some bad apples Yep - like any group)

The rest of you gibberish is nonsense. Typical brain dead fake media consumer of fake news.. Hand up don't shoot --all fake.

Ferguson's own "gentle giant" Michael Brown , Innocent young man. BS he got every price of lead he deserved.




A poem I found about this man.

There once was a Punk named brown,
Who bum-rushed a Cop with a frown.
Six rounds later, he met his Creator,
Who sent him to Hell in the ground.

noims said:

... except when government employees murder Bad People, like foreigners, non-whites, or too poor to afford a good lawyer... right, Bob?

Cops Getting Caught On Video Hasn't Led To Convictions

bobknight33 says...

Cops keeping the streets safe.

FYI Michael Brown received every bullet he deserved.

Cameras prove the cops to be in the right but still hard leftest can seem to grasp reality.

TDS - A Suspicious Police Shooting in Chicago

bobknight33 says...

The punk who stole the car and hit the police cars "was" revolting.

The shooting was justified.
Just like Trayvon Martin
Just like Michael Brown.

Sorry that you don't see wrong for wrong sake.

Januari said:

You're a revolting human being, but you sure are a good christian.

Spring Valley High "Cop" violently assaults black teen girl

bobknight33 says...

The cop was justified... Did it go too far- yep but the student caused this to happen.


Looks justified when intellectually competent persons analyze this.


Ignorant people ( well lest face it we are talking about the left) will see something different and the Black lives matter with Al Sharpton will be showing up soon. This will spur on the Anti cop / Cop killing is good propaganda causing a more downward spiral of society.



Justified !

Just like the cop that justifiably killed Michael Brown of Ferguson this cop will also loose job as a sacrificial lamb for the Left.

Trancecoach said:

Prediction of the "official" response to this incident: "We have reviewed the incident and found that the officer in question followed all departmental policies and procedures."

this is what a fascist sounds like

bobknight33 says...

A person working for US killing a criminal ( when needed, Michael Brown) is doing his job. No that is protecting the citizens.

You see 1 cop killing 1 black and get all bent out of shape but when black kill black no one cares. You tell me where is the justice in that thinking?

Babymech said:

"Unless a cop kills a black"? Unless a person working for you kills a citizen. Do you really not see the difference between a criminal committing murder and a civil servant paid by your tax money to protect people shooting people? That's why it's political - because these people work for you.

Swedish cops show NYPD how to subdue people w/ hurting them

lantern53 says...

Oh, I'm sure Asmo is right...the police in the US are taught to kill people at every opportunity.

I suppose that makes for a big fail since the cops in the US are so inept at killing people. Out of 12 million arrests, 593 people killed by cops in 2014 with about 1/4 of those being black people. But because you can't turn on MSNBC w/o a rehash of Michael Brown or Eric Garner, people think this happens every 6 seconds on the street.

Someone do the math, because I suck at math, what percent is 593 of 12 million?

Anti-Michael Brown Song By Retired Fed. Investigator

newtboy says...

Dude...can you read? Please try again. I did not say it was racist. I said things do not have to be racist to be disgusting. Just wow. Talk about low reading comprehension.

If you only believe the cop testimony, perhaps. Since the DA threw the grand jury case, we'll never know, because it will never see a court room. That's not the series of events reports say the other 38 witnesses testified to seeing.

Songs laughing about killing unarmed people, and comparing them to road kill is only entertainment for disgusting people. Odd that all the cops found it entertaining...or perhaps it's not.
They should be upset because making fun of killing other people is disgusting, especially in the current climate where cops are trying to look human and humane, this shows their true colors when they think no one is watching, they laugh at killing unarmed people and take pleasure in it while dehumanizing the dead victims and their families. That's why any thinking person with a conscience would be upset. Duh.

I brought up the NY mayor because you brought up the NYPD cops. The way the cops are treating the mayor, who is not anti cop, but is simply not 100% behind every cop action, is infantile and disgusting. It shows how they can't accept any criticism without completely over-reacting in the worst ways, like big babies with guns.

Oh Bob. You might want to back off on the attempted insults and stick to the topic. (It just so happens that I'm fixed, not neutered, please learn the difference. Neutered males do not 'grow a pair' back, fixed males still have their testicles.) Your attempt at insult failed miserably on all fronts, but I'll still give you 'credit' for trying to be smarmy and clever.
It seems you're going the way of Chingalera here...and we all know what happened when he put the Newt in his mouthy parts. (it's the same thing that happens to anything that tries to bite a Newt, we just come crawling back out of your dead mouth unharmed!) He thought he was a big man too, with his smarmy insulting nastiness...didn't work out too well for him.

Considering how you see 'reality', I sure hope I look to be on the wrong side to you. I would hate to think I'm somehow in step with you or @Trancecoach. Many thinking people here do not have the highest opinions of your ilk.

EDIT: If Bill Burr told this story, he would not have talked about Michael Brown in those disgusting, degrading, dehumanizing ways. Bill is not an asshole. He might have found a way to make it funny, but not degrading or dehumanizing. This guy is no Bill Burr.

bobknight33 said:

Your not Newtboy you neutered boy. Time for you to grow up and grow a pair.

No it is not Racist not one bit racist. Bad taste maybe but not racist.

Michael Brown was a thug that struggled with a cop for his gun and it went off. The gentle giant then ran 30 ft got shot then charged back towards then cop and received some corrective measures for failing to stop charging the cop that lead to to his justified death.


The song, depending which side of the fence you are on can be disgusting or funny entertainment.

Like Ding Dong the witch is dead. is not appealing to witches but fun for all others to sing.
If Bill Burr told this story like the song you would be laughing you ass off.

Bill Burr - Helicopter Rides
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eViS29rF63Y

AS for the room fool of cops not dissenting. How dumb can you be. Why on earth should they be upset?


Why bring up the NY mayor? He is an anti cop fool, elected by fools.

Man up Neutered Boy. Your on the loosing side of reality.

Anti-Michael Brown Song By Retired Fed. Investigator

bobknight33 says...

Your not Newtboy you neutered boy. Time for you to grow up and grow a pair.

No it is not Racist not one bit racist. Bad taste maybe but not racist.

Michael Brown was a thug that struggled with a cop for his gun and it went off. The gentle giant then ran 30 ft got shot then charged back towards then cop and received some corrective measures for failing to stop charging the cop that lead to to his justified death.


The song, depending which side of the fence you are on can be disgusting or funny entertainment.

Like Ding Dong the witch is dead. is not appealing to witches but fun for all others to sing.
If Bill Burr told this story like the song you would be laughing you ass off.

Bill Burr - Helicopter Rides
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eViS29rF63Y

AS for the room fool of cops not dissenting. How dumb can you be. Why on earth should they be upset?


Why bring up the NY mayor? He is an anti cop fool, elected by fools.

Man up Neutered Boy. Your on the loosing side of reality.

newtboy said:

So if it's not blatantly Racist (why the capital R?), any disgusting, disrespectful, inflammatory thing someone wants to say is fine? I disagree.

Think about how the NYPD reacts to the mayor being honest by saying that he told his black son to be careful around officers and not scare cops into (over)reacting. They've acted as if he shot the officers himself, or actively supported such actions, just because he didn't stand firmly in 100% full support for all police actions.
"My group" won't be making any praise songs for killing anyone that's not a convicted (or well known) mass murderer. I won't speak for any other groups, and mine is a group of one. ;-)
The issue is more the reaction of the room full of cops over the disgusting act of one ex fed. I didn't hear one boo, and not one person left. I somehow feel the reaction would be far stronger against a song in support of Obama in that room...that might get violent.

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Texas Cop Beats And Tasers 77 Year Old Man

lantern53 says...

A police officer is permitted to use force 'one step up' from the person who is resisting. So if he is using his fists, I can use an impact weapon. If he has a knife, I can use a gun. If I fear for my life, I can use deadly force.

Of course more resisters are going to be killed than cops. A lot of those resisters are on drugs, not trained...they're thugs, like Michael Brown.

jon stewart-rage against the rage against the machine

lantern53 says...

Michael Brown didn't have his 'hands up' according to credible evidence. Both he and Eric Garner died from resisting arrest and the violence attendant upon that fact.

Being arrested is not a negotiation between two parties in a contract.

TYT - NO Indictment for Ferguson Cop

Mordhaus says...

The quote that Cenk tossed out about the sandwich doesn't apply to this situation. Basically what it means is that if a Prosecutor goes to the trouble of bringing a case before a grand jury, he is usually 100% certain that he can get a trial result.

However, I direct you to http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/ for a much better explanation. I'll try to sum up what the article says briefly.

Trials involving cops are much harder to get an indictment from a grand jury. People tend to trust cops and this could lead to fewer indictments. Prosecutors could be throwing the case rather than risk a hostile working environment. But the most logical reason is simply that in a non-high profile case, i.e. one other than a possibly racially motivated shooting that is being reported about non-stop, a prosecutor is typically only going to bring cases before a grand jury that he is certain he will gather an indictment back from them.

In a case like this, where a prosecutor is pretty much forced to bring an indictment due to public outcry, a weak case is not going to get past the grand jury. This was a weak case.

In the end, right or wrong, the officer faced due process and was considered by a jury of his and the victim's peers to be non-indictable. While I am sorry for the victim, his family, and friends, it was the victim's decision to assault a police officer and attempt to take away his weapon.

Jon Stewart Goes After Fox in Ferguson Monologue

bareboards2 says...

Here's the insight I got yesterday while talking to someone about Michael Brown's execution.....

EVERY POLICE OFFICER IN AMERICA OPERATES UNDER "STAND YOUR GROUND" MENTALITY.

Any whiff of feeling threatened, no matter how incredibly stupid and racist, and they will get off because they were "defending" themselves. Look at what happens in Florida under specific Stand Your Ground statutes -- plenty of unarmed people are being murdered and the shooters are getting off scot free. And so do police officers. ALL THE TIME.

Last Week Tonight - Ferguson and Police Militarization

lantern53 says...

Getting back to the subject at hand, the evidence appears to show that the police officer was in the right, while the decedent prompted his own demise.

meanwhile, the anarchists and other malcontents will continue to extoll the virtues of thugs like Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown and kiss the asses of parasites like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.



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