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Veep Joe Biden Talking Impeachment

kceaton1 says...

>> ^BansheeX:

>> ^kceaton1:
Apples and Oranges. We are an active U.N. member AND on the security council, not to mention a member of NATO. We also have MANY treaties. People are concerned about the semantics here. The rule of law and how they can garner leverage politically.
Meanwhile, we're preventing what could have been a near genocidal event. In the past we sat on our rear ends with such events across the globe. Then a lot of people cried foul that we did nothing (as oil wasn't involved).
Now, we do the right thing and the Republican war machinists cry foul; most likely ONLY, because they didn't tell Obama to do it first.
We have foreign obligations; get over it.

International treaties don't override the constitution, that defeats the whole purpose. Why have a constitution if it can be so easily subverted? "Oh, gee, this international treaty I signed tells me I can do anything my domestic constitution prohibits me from doing!"


I'm not saying it's right, but I suggest you rtfc before you post... Take it or leave it.

"The U.N. Charter is binding law in the United States. Under Article 6, clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution, treaties-of which the U.N. Charter is one-are considered the supreme law of the land. Article 103 of the U.N. Charter makes clear that the charter supercedes all other conflicting treaties. It says: "In the event of conflict between the obligations of the Members of the United Nations under the present Charter and their obligations under any other international agreement, their obligations under the present Charter shall prevail."

Veep Joe Biden Talking Impeachment

BansheeX says...

>> ^kceaton1:

Apples and Oranges. We are an active U.N. member AND on the security council, not to mention a member of NATO. We also have MANY treaties. People are concerned about the semantics here. The rule of law and how they can garner leverage politically.
Meanwhile, we're preventing what could have been a near genocidal event. In the past we sat on our rear ends with such events across the globe. Then a lot of people cried foul that we did nothing (as oil wasn't involved).
Now, we do the right thing and the Republican war machinists cry foul; most likely ONLY, because they didn't tell Obama to do it first.
We have foreign obligations; get over it.


International treaties don't override the constitution, that defeats the whole purpose. Why have a constitution if it can be so easily subverted? "Oh, gee, this international treaty I signed tells me I can do anything my domestic constitution prohibits me from doing!"

Veep Joe Biden Talking Impeachment

kceaton1 says...

>> ^JAPR:

>> ^kceaton1:
Apples and Oranges. We are an active U.N. member AND on the security council, not to mention a member of NATO. We also have MANY treaties. People are concerned about the semantics here. The rule of law and how they can garner leverage politically.
Meanwhile, we're preventing what could have been a near genocidal event. In the past we sat on our rear ends with such events across the globe. Then a lot of people cried foul that we did nothing (as oil wasn't involved).
Now, we do the right thing and the Republican war machinists cry foul; most likely ONLY, because they didn't tell Obama to do it first.
We have foreign obligations; get over it.

Alternative (I'd dare say more realistic view, if you follow history and facts) view says that yes, it's all politics, but that we're not intervening to help, we're using the positive excuse of helping to advance our own interests.


I agree, I'm fully aware of this. Especially, since he has backtracked on many issues he ran on (again, previous history). However, I'm merely trying to say there is a lot of complaining here for very flimsy reasons. Could it be for selfish reasons, sure. Yet I think we are also in the right, whether it has co-mutual benefits.

The point I'm making is that in this scenario, before us, must also remind us that we are in the U.N.. We are also on the security council AND we passed this resolution with the rest. We even have the U.N. IN New York. We have obligations internationally, because of this. Do I want another "war" no. Do I think it's necessary, yes. If we truly ever want to have the U.N. work we have to do this. I know this will be different for every president we have. George W. used a resolution to "legally" start a war he wanted. Obama is watching the dominoes fall in the Middle East and has acted. Does this mean we are doing this for personal reasons that is absolutely correct--this will be true no matter what situation leads to it. Libya is also a member in the U.N. and is obligated to obey resolutions.

I'm concerned that in the past we have created this international institution and abused it and used it for OUR reasons. This time it was more an international decision.

Veep Joe Biden Talking Impeachment

JAPR says...

>> ^kceaton1:

Apples and Oranges. We are an active U.N. member AND on the security council, not to mention a member of NATO. We also have MANY treaties. People are concerned about the semantics here. The rule of law and how they can garner leverage politically.
Meanwhile, we're preventing what could have been a near genocidal event. In the past we sat on our rear ends with such events across the globe. Then a lot of people cried foul that we did nothing (as oil wasn't involved).
Now, we do the right thing and the Republican war machinists cry foul; most likely ONLY, because they didn't tell Obama to do it first.
We have foreign obligations; get over it.


Alternative (I'd dare say more realistic view, if you follow history and facts) view says that yes, it's all politics, but that we're not intervening to help, we're using the positive excuse of helping to advance our own interests.

Veep Joe Biden Talking Impeachment

kceaton1 says...

Apples and Oranges. We are an active U.N. member AND on the security council, not to mention a member of NATO. We also have MANY treaties. People are concerned about the semantics here. The rule of law and how they can garner leverage politically.

Meanwhile, we're preventing what could have been a near genocidal event. In the past we sat on our rear ends with such events across the globe. Then a lot of people cried foul that we did nothing (as oil wasn't involved).

Now, we do the right thing and the Republican war machinists cry foul; most likely ONLY, because they didn't tell Obama to do it first.

We have foreign obligations; get over it.

Greatest Racing Motorcycle ever: Britten V1000

therealblankman says...

>> ^cybrbeast:
Why did the technology die with him? Surely more could be built?


One person with extraordinary vision, coupled with technological know-how, engineering brilliance and the ability to get his hands dirty and plain-and-simple build what he imagines is a rare thing.

In the case of the Britten bike, this is a partial list of what made his bike special:

1) Partial girder-link front suspension with adjustable anti-dive properties.
-fork-type suspensions compress under braking and extend during acceleration, changing the geometry and handling characteristics of the machine quite drastically during the different driving modes. Britten's suspension design allowed him to control pretty much all variables of suspension geometry under changing load, making the bike behave however the rider wished.
- The rear suspension, while perhaps not as revolutionary, was a beautiful piece. It was essentially a carbon-fibre banana swing-arm with a linkage to the adjustable shock/spring assembly. If you look at the bike you'll see that there's no spring/shock assembly near the rear suspension, rather note the spring/shock assembly directly behind the front wheel- this is for the rear suspension! The front shock assembly is hidden in the front suspension linkage and cowling.

2) The engine itself was a stressed-member.
-While certainly not unheard of, Britten took the concept to an extreme, essentially eliminating the frame from the motorcycle. The front and rear suspensions essentially bolted directly to the engine, thus saving many kilos over contemporary designs. Take a look at any current MotoGP or Superbike- most use the engine as a partial stressed-member, but they all have frame members linking the engine, steering heads and seat-assemblies. Britten really only had a vestigial sub-frame for the rider's seat.

3) Well-controlled aerodynamics and fully-ducted cooling system
-Britten paid close attention to airflow over, around and through his bike. Look how cleanly the rider's body tucks into the bodywork. He paid close attention to details, notice how clean the entire assembly is- no exposed wiring, nothing dangling into the airflow, that incredibly sleek rear swing-arm and rear tire hugger. This keeps the airflow smooth and un-disturbed. Motorcycles aren't terribly aerodynamic machines in the first place, but a wise man once said God is in the details.
-The engine itself is a water cooled design, but where's the radiator? It's in a fully-sealed duct directly beneath the rider's seat. High-pressure air is inlet from the front of the bike, through the radiator and is exhausted into the low pressure area beneath the rider and above/ahead of the rear wheel. Greater cooling equals higher power potential.

4) The motor
- 999cc 60 degree V-Twin, belt-driven DOHC design, twin injectors per cylinder, sophisticated electronic ignition, hand-made carbon fibre velocity stacks, wet sump. The motor was designed to breathe hard, pumping out torque and horsepower (166 hp @ 11800 rpm- not sure about the torque figures), and run cool and reliably under racing conditions. Nothing here that any other manufacturer couldn't have figured out on their own, but Britten had the insight and the will to make the best motor in the world at the time. The 60 degree configuration was, I assume chosen for packaging reasons. Normally this configuration would have bad primary balance characteristics, but Britten engineered his to such tight tolerances that the engine ran smoothly right up to redline (12500 rpm) without using a balance shaft.
I'll also point out here that Britten wasn't above using someone else's part if it was better than he could make himself- the gearbox was from a Suzuki superbike, and the cylinder liners and voltage regulator (both of which failed at the Daytona race in '92- the latter costing Britten the win) were from Ducati.

5) Carbon Fibre
- While Carbon Fibre had been around for 2 decades or so at this point, nobody had used it so extensively. Britten used the material for bodywork, wheels, engine parts, suspension girders and the rear swing-arm. There is still no other bike, not even the current Ducati Desmosedici MotoGP bike, that uses so much of this exotic material. The stuff then, as it is now, was hugely expensive and challenging to engineer for different applications. Britten made everything himself, in his garage, figuring it out as he went. This kept the total weight of the bike to a hugely impressive 138 kg.

Keep in mind that he did all of the above in 1991 and 1992, with the help of several neighbors and one part-time machinist, in his backyard shed! He made the bodywork by hand, using a wire frame and hot melt glue, crafting the wind-cheating shape and cooling ducting purely by eye. He cast the aluminum engine parts himself, heat-treating them in his wife's pottery kiln, and cooling the heat-treated parts with water from his swimming pool!

Ducati, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki... any one of these manufactures could today reproduce and expand on what Britten accomplished almost single-handedly. None of them will- there's too much at stake for them. It's far safer to stick with the tried-and-true, making small evolutionary changes over the years. A true visionary achiever (to coin a term) like Britten comes along only every once in a great while.

I suppose that this is what was really lost when John Britten died... vision, engineering acuity, hands-on knowledge, and pure will. Touched with a little craziness.

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therealblankman says...

In reply to this comment by cybrbeast:
Why did the technology die with him? Surely more could be built?

>> ^cybrbeast:
Why did the technology die with him? Surely more could be built?


One person with extraordinary vision, coupled with technological know-how, engineering brilliance and the ability to get his hands dirty and plain-and-simple build what he imagines is a rare thing.

In the case of the Britten bike, this is a partial list of what made his bike special:

1) Partial girder-link front suspension with adjustable anti-dive properties.
-fork-type suspensions compress under braking and extend during acceleration, changing the geometry and handling characteristics of the machine quite drastically during the different driving modes. Britten's suspension design allowed him to control pretty much all variables of suspension geometry under changing load, making the bike behave however the rider wished.
- The rear suspension, while perhaps not as revolutionary, was a beautiful piece. It was essentially a carbon-fibre banana swing-arm with a linkage to the adjustable shock/spring assembly. If you look at the bike you'll see that there's no spring/shock assembly near the rear suspension, rather note the spring/shock assembly directly behind the front wheel- this is for the rear suspension! The front shock assembly is hidden in the front suspension linkage and cowling.

2) The engine itself was a stressed-member.
-While certainly not unheard of, Britten took the concept to an extreme, essentially eliminating the frame from the motorcycle. The front and rear suspensions essentially bolted directly to the engine, thus saving many kilos over contemporary designs. Take a look at any current MotoGP or Superbike- most use the engine as a partial stressed-member, but they all have frame members linking the engine, steering heads and seat-assemblies. Britten really only had a vestigial sub-frame for the rider's seat.

3) Well-controlled aerodynamics and fully-ducted cooling system
-Britten paid close attention to airflow over, around and through his bike. Look how cleanly the rider's body tucks into the bodywork. He paid close attention to details, notice how clean the entire assembly is- no exposed wiring, nothing dangling into the airflow, that incredibly sleek rear swing-arm and rear tire hugger. This keeps the airflow smooth and un-disturbed. Motorcycles aren't terribly aerodynamic machines in the first place, but a wise man once said God is in the details.
-The engine itself is a water cooled design, but where's the radiator? It's in a fully-sealed duct directly beneath the rider's seat. High-pressure air is inlet from the front of the bike, through the radiator and is exhausted into the low pressure area beneath the rider and above/ahead of the rear wheel. Greater cooling equals higher power potential.

4) The motor
- 999cc 60 degree V-Twin, belt-driven DOHC design, twin injectors per cylinder, sophisticated electronic ignition, hand-made carbon fibre velocity stacks, wet sump. The motor was designed to breathe hard, pumping out torque and horsepower (166 hp @ 11800 rpm- not sure about the torque figures), and run cool and reliably under racing conditions. Nothing here that any other manufacturer couldn't have figured out on their own, but Britten had the insight and the will to make the best motor in the world at the time. The 60 degree configuration was, I assume chosen for packaging reasons. Normally this configuration would have bad primary balance characteristics, but Britten engineered his to such tight tolerances that the engine ran smoothly right up to redline (12500 rpm) without using a balance shaft.
I'll also point out here that Britten wasn't above using someone else's part if it was better than he could make himself- the gearbox was from a Suzuki superbike, and the cylinder liners and voltage regulator (both of which failed at the Daytona race in '92- the latter costing Britten the win) were from Ducati.

5) Carbon Fibre
- While Carbon Fibre had been around for 2 decades or so at this point, nobody had used it so extensively. Britten used the material for bodywork, wheels, engine parts, suspension girders and the rear swing-arm. There is still no other bike, not even the current Ducati Desmosedici MotoGP bike, that uses so much of this exotic material. The stuff then, as it is now, was hugely expensive and challenging to engineer for different applications. Britten made everything himself, in his garage, figuring it out as he went. This kept the total weight of the bike to a hugely impressive 138 kg.

Keep in mind that he did all of the above in 1991 and 1992, with the help of several neighbors and one part-time machinist, in his backyard shed! He made the bodywork by hand, using a wire frame and hot melt glue, crafting the wind-cheating shape and cooling ducting purely by eye. He cast the aluminum engine parts himself, heat-treating them in his wife's pottery kiln, and cooling the heat-treated parts with water from his swimming pool!

Ducati, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki... any one of these manufactures could today reproduce and expand on what Britten accomplished almost single-handedly. None of them will- there's too much at stake for them. It's far safer to stick with the tried-and-true, making small evolutionary changes over the years. A true visionary achiever (to coin a term) like Britten comes along only every once in a great while.

I suppose that this is what was really lost when John Britten died... vision, engineering acuity, hands-on knowledge, and pure will. Touched with a little craziness.

Liz Cheney's Group calls NIN's protest "Pathetic" (Music Talk Post)

silvercord says...

>> ^Drax:
Plenty of people enjoy Nine Inch Nails. My love for NIN's in how complex the music is, even his most catchy of tunes. Every listen I can peel off more layers of sound on a good set of headphones and hear new sound elements. I also enjoy the fictional story line of the man split in two that carries over all the albums from The Downward Spiral (the becoming) to With Teeth (only). Trent also seems to have a lot of integrity, but I'm a NIN fan for the music. The fact that Trent's actually a rather decent guy isn't what brings me back every release.
Now considering he has a strong fan base who enjoys his music, how is it he hasn't enriched the music culture to some degree? His work's bled over into other media as well, Tony Scott's The Fan was influenced by The Downward Spiral album. The Machinist and Flight Club where also influenced by NIN (The Machinist especially)
Do you just not enjoy it due to taste? Or is it something else you don't like?


What you've said, "enriched the music culture to some degree," strikes more closely at reality than what was quoted in your original post: "enriched American culture." I could have been more clear in my initial post that my reaction wasn't to the music, but to the idea encapsulated in the last sentence of your post that NIN had made some kind of morally positive contribution to American culture. I don't think they have. I realize that you didn't write that and, from your latest post, you don't go along with it, but whoever did pen those words is taking someone too seriously.

Liz Cheney's Group calls NIN's protest "Pathetic" (Music Talk Post)

Drax says...

Plenty of people enjoy Nine Inch Nails. My love for NIN's in how complex the music is, even his most catchy of tunes. Every listen I can peel off more layers of sound on a good set of headphones and hear new sound elements. I also enjoy the fictional story line of the man split in two that carries over all the albums from The Downward Spiral (the becoming) to With Teeth (only). Trent also seems to have a lot of integrity, but I'm a NIN fan for the music. The fact that Trent's actually a rather decent guy isn't what brings me back every release.

Now considering he has a strong fan base who enjoys his music, how is it he hasn't enriched the music culture to some degree? His work's bled over into other media as well, Tony Scott's The Fan was influenced by The Downward Spiral album. The Machinist and Flight Club where also influenced by NIN (The Machinist especially)

Do you just not enjoy it due to taste? Or is it something else you don't like?

Bale Out! RevoLucian's Christian Bale Remix

Christian Bale goes...um...Batshit (Wtf Talk Post)

RhesusMonk says...

K. Bale is a method actor whose wife had to threaten to divorce him before he would respond to her calling him anything but "Bruce" or "Mr. Wayne" throughout the prep period and filming of "Batman Begins." He was viciously difficult to manage on the set of "The Machinist" and "American Psycho." He is as well known for his deep method as Brando was during his prime. For most of us, movies are something we do once in a while for a good time, so they seem almost superfluous. But to method actors, knowing and being a character can be the greatest pursuit of their lives--no shit. If this did happen during an intense scene, and the activity of this guy, who seems to have been doing something entirely unnecessary at the time, was taking him out of character, it would truly compromise the integrity of the film. If you think that making a movie is not something to take seriously enough to blow up the way Bale did, think about how comparatively meaningless some of your jobs have been and how emotionally attached you've gotten to your tasks and responsibilities.

Christian Bale goes...um...Batshit (Wtf Talk Post)

videosiftbannedme says...

He's got issues alright. It doesn't matter how deep in concentration he was, he can always get back into that state, given time. What you can't do is go around being a prick to everyone just because you consider your work more important that someone else's. If the shot meant that much to him, he should have calmly stopped and relayed that he can't concentrate with a DP who's stumbling around behind the camera, distracting him.

However, he also could have been having a bad day, as we all have had them. And considering what's been happening in his personal life as of late (didn't he get into a fight with his family or something?), I'm sure he's wound up pretty tight. But, that's no excuse for turning into a prima donna.

Hey, the guy is a world class actor; anybody who can go from being "Holocaust-thin" (ie. The Machinist) to packing on the muscle for Batman is grade A in my book. But that doesn't mean he wasn't being a prick and a little, whiny bitch in this instance.

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