lol! That’s hilarious!
I think it had multiple angles or something. It’s been years, and I’m old.
No need for points, I’m swimming in them, but thanks.

🤦‍♂️No bob, they are not. THE FACTS WERE NOT DISPUTED BY TRUMP OR THE TRUMP ORG AT ALL, not in court…he submitted most of them.
Trump disputes the facts on camera, but not in court under oath. He can’t. The documents are what they are. He was too cowardly and guilty to take the stand…his smartest move yet.
Trump valued Maralago at $18 million for taxes, not the DA. He also valued it at 100 times that value to get good loan terms that saved him hundreds of millions the banks and county were then deprived of because of his fraud. Understand? I’m sure not.
I did the math, if his stated bank values are truthful, he defrauded the government out of well over $700 million in decades of unpaid taxes for one property.

What was presented during the prosecution “side” of the “hearing” bob? Nothing…because there was no prosecution phase, it was summary judgement based on what was presented by both parties during DISCOVERY. There has only been a “damages” phase of trial since the prima facie case made at discovery necessitated a sumary judgement…not a “prosecution side”.

Bob. This is civil court, not a criminal trial. Please stop trying to explain things you are wholly ignorant about.

In your example, a criminal trial with different rules, the defense could be you didn’t see them, or they dove in front of your moving car, or you were having a medical issue….or one of a thousand mitigating factors. Trump presented no mitigating factors explaining the frauds, the differing values that changed 10000% in value on paper with his signature swearing to the truthfulness of the values he presented, values he knew were fantasy, so was found guilty.
(Side note- in your example the victim’s heirs would also get a civil trial where prima facie guilt would be established by the witnesses and your admission you hit them and you would need to have evidence supporting your affirmative defense that it was under duress to evade liability, just as they would need to prove malicious intent or recklessness to get punitive damages, IMO).

😂 “Property values can’t be fraud in any way”. 😂 hilarious since submitting fraudulent values is exactly what he was found guilty of! 😂

The banks indicated massive fraud, who told you they didn’t? Trump? The banks lost over $180 million in interest they should have received if the collateral values had been correct. Yes, they made some money, but lost out on $180 million plus.
When you get a loan based on fraud like this, even if you pay it back you still comitted a crime and any penny you made from that crime can be recovered from you, exactly what’s happening.
It’s as if Trump submitted documents “proving” his credit rating was 800 but in fact it was below 400, then saying it’s no crime because he paid his low interest credit card bills, pay no attention to the lower rates and perks he received because of his fraud, they’re nothingburgers…$180 million nothing burgers.

This is a BS showman disgraced ex president caught red handed. You know it, he knows it. No one is blinded, you are simply dishonest.

What of me statement are bullshit or not in this hearing/case?
The disclaimers don’t mean Trump can just make up the numbers, like he did. I know he claims that, he already lost that point in court. He gave fraudulent numbers, values, square footage, claimed unpermitted unbuilt rentals were filled and collecting rent, claims he didn’t add “brand value” but it’s there listed on the documents.

lol. You get your “information” from crack heads, failed comedians turned pundits, and con men like rapist Trump. I get mine directly from the courts, then verify, then look at what nonsense MAGA is saying about it, then debunk your nonsense. Stop projecting. I’m not stupid. I’m no dick. I have almost no ego. I simply hate stupid lies and the stupid lying liars who lie them stupidly and I have the testicular fortitude and perspicacity to factually contradict them with facts, figures, and references.

You don’t ever look for shit, you liar. You take what the MAGA machine hands you and you say what they said to say. You haven’t had an individual thought since you’ve been posting here, not one. Every word you post can be found in the MAGAsphere written by someone else who makes money by telling you lies to repeat.

Yes, Trump was found guilty during discovery before the courtroom trial began, which is perfectly normal and reasonable in cases where the evidence is incontrovertible like this one. That’s the United States legal system, no surprise you don’t understand it….you don’t understand thing about my country.

Now whine that he couldn’t have a jury trial just because he didn’t ask for one until after his trial had started. So unfair! 😂

lol. Manly Traitor Greene now says she was terrified for her life on Jan 6 because the armed violent rioters were so threatening and she was only saved by an unnamed congressman with a gun.
Of course, she’s claiming with no evidence that they were armed ANTIFA agents she was so afraid of (showing she doesn’t understand what ANTIFA is) and ignoring that every conviction so far has been a MAGA moron who say in court that they tried to steal the office of president for Trump.
Hilariously she doesn’t realize she’s now calling the very convicts she likes to visit in prison and call “peaceful tourists” armed rioters that made her fear for her life on Jan 6.
How does she think Pelosi felt? They weren’t chanting “where’s Marjory” while shitting on HER desk and ransacking her office.

As a bonus, Trump’s lawyers just filed a brief looking for more discovery in which they assert “Russia, through its government funded channel RT and other means, executed a Kremlin directed campaign to undermine faith in the (incumbent) US Government and fuel political protest.” (Which would clearly favor the challenger….now who was the challenger in 2016?). Yes, this is Trump arguing in court filings that he needs unredacted classified documents for his defense because Russia interfered in the 2016 and 2020 election on his behalf! 😂

Now that's funny, lol

Lol. Trump, Barr, and likely Giuliani are now under subpoena in Hunter’s selectively prosecuted criminal case.
What do you want to bet they don’t show up and won’t produce documents?

😂 The ethics report on Santos is out. It reveals significant evidence that he not only lied about $750k in loans never paid to his campaign (but was reimbursed using political donations), but created shell companies and lied to fellow congressmen that they supplied political consulting to Trump (never saying he was sole owner and employee) then took their secret donations to Trump for his credit card bills and only-fans gay porn….and much much much more.
Quoted from the ethics committee report-
“The ISC’s investigation revealed a complex web of unlawful activity involving Representative Santos’ campaign, personal, and business finances. Representative Santos sought to fraudulently exploit every aspect of his house candidacy for his own personal financial profit.”
Republicans knew all this and much more when they recently voted to not remove or censure him.
He will be another albatross around your neck next election season….him, and the horrific Republican response to his criminality. 😂

And now we have multiple top administration officials and lawyers like Meadows, Scovino, and Ellis admitting under oath that in December Trump was saying he didn’t care that he lost, and didn’t care what the courts said, he was not going to leave the White House under any circumstances, he was just going to stay in power….as if we didn’t already know.
Because I’m sure you don’t understand, that is criminal intent, direct evidence of election fraud and multiple attempted coups, and 100% undermines any attempt to pretend he thought he won or was doing what he believed was right for him to do as president….in fact now only he can make that claim himself by testifying under oath in open court…and please oh please let his lawyers be that stupid. Er mer gerd, please be that stupid.

Enjoy being firmly on the traitors team. Don’t be surprised to wake up to find a big “T” branded on your forehead some day, Americans don’t like traitors.

Bonus-Lol…today fraud and coward Senator Mullin “accepted” the challenge to physically fight a union leader in the senate chambers knowing that the capitol police were there to protect him and not allow a fight, once again displaying MAGA’s complete lack of respect for America and your total cowardice.
If he wanted to actually accept the challenge, he would have done so either in a place where a fight could happen, or publicly and arrange a sanctioned ring fight, but he instead hid behind his security and only when safe pretended to accept.
If he actually wanted to fight then and there Bernie Sanders would not have immediately stopped him using just words.
Even better, after the union leader accepted the challenge then and there and the senator sat back down at Sanders’s order, he tried to pretend the union leader had gone silent and hid from the fight, a pure fabrication of events that just happened in public view and that we have recorded.
He never intended, nor does he intend to accept the invitation to a fist fight, this was pure false bravado staged for a photo op in congress…that tank of a union leader would have flattened him out thin enough for even you to see through him. 😂
If he’s really a tough guy, let him accept a sanctioned cage match like the guy suggested. MAGgot coward wouldn’t show up because he’s a kindergarten child, not a man.
such infants you crybabies are.

Second bonus- Speaker Johnson is already on the ropes, incapable of putting together a budget plan even his party will vote for (definitely not one that will pass the senate), is angering the same extremist MAGgots that tossed McCarthy and got him the position, and has SERIOUS financial disclosure issues like hiding his wife’s income and assets for his entire 7 year tenure, and pretending that he’s a man of minor means, so poor on only $205k (+ his wife’s income, and her unreported undisclosed LLC’s income, and the millions in freebies he doesn’t report) a year that he doesn’t have any bank accounts, and failed to disclose multiple gifts from multiple sources of at least $20k despite being required to report anything valued over $400. He’s not going to survive the year in office.
Meanwhile Greene and Gaetz are holding sham meetings of (in their own words) “shadow congress” to spout covid and vaccine misinformation, conspiracy theories, and outright lies on taxpayer dollars instead of doing the work of congress.
His criminal failures mean another Republican shutdown just in time to ruin Thanksgiving and Xmas, expected to be the busiest travel season ever while not paying tsa or traffic controllers will be an unmitigated disaster…you think people won’t remember who did that again?

Third bonus- Kevin McCarthy is now accused of battery of another Republican congressman while he was being interviewed in the Senate hallway, confirmed by the reporter. When Burchett chased him down he hid behind security and denied it, then ran away like a MAGA coward.
Gaetz has filed a formal ethics complaint.
MAGA and the Republican Party are falling apart at the seams, so flustered at constantly losing and looking moronic and anti patriotic that they are physically fighting each other and civilians in congress…and it’s delicious. 😂 Kindergartners have better self control, and it’s on full display constantly.

Enjoy political oblivion. White racist bigots are many and loud, but there’s not enough of you to elect anyone, and everyone else in your party has left.

Lol, what a maroon. That disclaimer is hilarious. Still, this is dumb and they're lucky no one was hurt.

Electile Dysfunction

dedstick?

I get it. LOL

you are so bad at this lol

your parents must have dropped you on your head?

or maybe they put out a cigarette on that soft spot on a baby's head?

whatever it's hilarious

so the answer is yes. you are truly a braindead moron.

then take another L bewby22. enjoy being the biggest loser lol

I swear, you've got to be the most innocent person here. Lol

you dont get to decide lol

First co-defendant in Trump Georgia election case pleads guilty
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/29/first-co-defendant-in-trump-georgia-election-case-pleads-guilty.html

There you have it. A Trump co-conspirator CONFESSED TO TAMPERING WITH ELECTION EQUIPMENT to get Trump elected.

It's so hillarious that the Republicans made themselves criminals and committed election fraud in their frantic search for non-existent evidence of it. They invented stories of a non-existent conspiracy to defraud the American public of a fair election, while actively trying to defraud us of a fair election.

Hell, conspiracy aside, the only people I heard of who committed voter fraud by casting multiple ballots or voting with a fake IDs were Republicans.

"his plea deal requires him to testify in future proceedings in the case, including trials of his co-defendants, including Trump."

the deep state is so deep that co-consipirators are going to testify agsainst Trump LOL.

Its just beginning bewb

https://youtu.be/vw8n4BYYp48?t=270

Lol. You’ve got to be kidding! Still?
🤦‍♂️ “You’re” bob. 🤦‍♂️ The word is you’re…as in you are. If contractions are too hard for you, don’t try to use them. This is second grade English stuff even in public schools, and failing to speak English as well as an average third grader can says mountains about your ability to learn facts.
Your own gullibility is constantly on display for all but you to see, paired with your unbelievable ignorance it’s pretty funny quite often. 😂

You don’t see ANY crimes from Trump, even those he’s been convicted of, but because I say it hasn’t yet been PROVEN in court the Menendez cash was bribes, you say I’m denying it. Trump has been found guilty in multiple courts, guilty of fraud, theft, charity theft, lies, rape, racist redlining, tax evasion, etc. So silly bob.

I posted the news about Menendez, dummy. I’m hardly denying it. 🤦‍♂️

I’m pointing out the difference in response to the credible accusations. When they’re against a Democrat like here, Democrats ensure the accused is immediately removed from duty so he can’t continue to sully the office.
When Republicans are accused, Republicans just deny it until they can’t, then ignore it by pointing to someone else and “what about him”ing, even with no evidence against the accused, then pretend the crime isn’t a crime (like stealing top secret military classified documents then hiding them from subpoenas and lying under oath). They absolutely never remove their criminal members from power, only Democrats care about criminal behavior in their ranks enough to vote to remove it. Trump and Santos are both examples of that, but far from the only ones. Republicans don’t expel criminals, they protect them and cry “witch hunt” and never acknowledge all the “witches” that have already been caught, convicted, and put in prison.

Funny, when foreign businessmen just hand Trump hundreds of thousands in cash (or hand his family literally billions as pure bribery) you don’t think twice….you think they just like him? It’s not out of the ordinary for local businessmen to give large sums to politicians….it is odd to give gold bars and cash, but search Trump’s house, what do you think is there? His gold just comes in toilet shape. Trump did take many official gifts to the president from foreign leaders…these also were not his to take, they, like the stolen state secrets, belong to the people, not a person.

Bwaaahahahaaa. School teachers!?! What delusion are you suffering now? I know you distrust teachers, your education level proves it daily. You would do well to get some information from teachers, it might make you realize how idiotic the randos on the internet are selling you nonsense, nor how idiotic you are to believe it. Try a real source, not biased randos that make a living selling lies to idiots. Er mer gerd. You are too funny. Now teachers are the enemy….along with gays, trans, liberals, Asians, refugees, the media, unions, Latinos, centrists, immigrants, natives, RINOS, Ukrainians…who is left in America that isn’t your enemy for something, bob?
I don’t get my current affairs information from “teachers” bob. I learned critical thinking and how to do research and vetting of sources from teachers, you obviously did not.
Maybe read this and learn something… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_v._United_States
It wasn’t directly for Trump, it was directly for the benefit of a Republican governor, granted, but it made it far more difficult to charge him with accepting them.

Trump was not POTUS when he illegally stole top secret classified military secrets…he was Ex POTUS. Even the president may not possess top secret classified military documents. Ex presidents cannot have any classified documents, even the current president cannot take them from a SCIF without going through the complete declassification process. You learned what you think you know about the law from the guy who is blatantly breaking it. He’s also a convicted liar…he’s lying about the law….blatantly.
It’s clear you know it and don’t care…facts are for liberals, fantasy is for MAGgots.

If you watch his interviews, he’s gone from “I have every right to take classified documents” to “I declassified them” to”they’re automatically declassified when I take them” to “I think I’m allowed to take them”….but never any excuse for violating multiple subpoenas or for lying to the fbi about still hiding more, or attempting to destroy the evidence, or for showing these sensitive documents to anyone who would listen to him blather, including registered foreign agents for hostile foreign powers (China).

Biden and vP Pence both immediately cooperated when asked to look and return anything they had, despite Biden being the president and legally allowed to personally have most classified documents and the current power to declassify or pardon himself for any breach (according to Trump), Trump lied and actively hid the military secrets he stole in a convoluted scheme to defraud the American people again and sell state secrets for cash and favors from foreign powers like Saudi Arabia.

Every time you claim “witch hunt” they seem to convict dozens of MAGA witches.
The real witch hunt is hunting Joe. Targeting private citizens for congressional investigation after congressional investigation to try to impugn Joe, and so far every one has failed. Just like Clinton. Now the biased persecution has him defending silly gun charges that are absolutely never charged alone and are only ever used to give convicted drug kingpins more time…but still haven’t found a jaywalking case against Joe.

Again, moron, I posted the video about this democrat being caught in a bribery scheme he’s certainly guilty of….I simply said there’s exponentially more evidence against Trump, much already proven in court, and nothing proven against Menendez yet. This causes you to lose your shit and throw a tantrum. 😂

There’s zero evidence Joe Biden committed any crime. None. Years of investigations have turned up nothing at all, nada, zip, zilch. 😂

Every measure of a president disagrees with you. Biden didn’t have a negative gdp for any year. Biden’s policies created 13 million jobs, he didn’t lose 3 million. Biden has strengthened our relationships internationally and stepped away from our enemies. Trump added $8 trillion to the debt, Biden $3 trillion so far…so 1/2. Biden policy ended the epidemic and lowered death rates significantly, Trump policy was so bad that it lowered life expectancy of Americans significantly and created millions of new disabled. Trump promised infrastructure week but never delivered, Biden secured the biggest infrastructure investment since the freeways were built, republicans all voted against it and are now taking credit for all its benifits.

Lol….now Santos is the same as Fetterman? Explain that….again I know you can’t. Fetterman has health issues, but no criminal activity. If health issues are disqualifying, 90% need replacing. (Or is it because he wears sweatshirts and shorts?). But to the right, being a repeated thief from invalid elderly patients, a fugitive, fraud, and liar about everything he’s ever said is only as bad as once having had a stroke you’re now recovered from…no moral or ethical or legal component to your thought process.

You are such a joke, little man. Not one bit serious. Hyper exaggerating anything you think you have on democrats, completely ignoring the fraudulent terroristic child rape gang you belong to. Here’s a reminder…
201 IN state Rep Jud McMillin - a sex video sent from his phone. He claims his phone was lost so he could be a victim but...read to the end, he’s resigned for misconduct before

202 TN State Rep David Hawk convicted for hitting his wife. Now running for Speaker.

203 TN state GOP Rep Mark Lovell - sexual harassment

204 TN State Rep.Jeremy Durham sexual misconduct

205 Alabama Republican Party Executive Committee and former Cullman County Commission Chairman James Graves, 73, 1st-degree sex abuse of 17 year-old-girl

206 Tennessee Republican judicial candidate Chuck Hunter - enticement 14-year-old teen

207 Dr Don Boys is a rape apologist. According to him, it’s not rape unless she screams and there are TWO witnesses. This is a man desperately in need of a ball gag.

208 Wasilla Republican Sen. David Wilson was disciplined for retaliation against a staffer who complained he upskirted her. Investigation ruled that while he did put his phone down by her skirt hem, he failed to get close enough. So attempted upskirting is ok? Explains Kavanaugh

209 Former GOP state house candidate Schaeffer Cox - Domestic Abuse, also soliciting murder, terrorism

210 Sheriff Joe Arpaio ignored 400 sexual assault and abuse cases, allowing rapists and molesters to continue unbothered by anything so troublesome as an investigation

211 Ron Williams II - Trump’s Kobach Voter Fraud commission staffer, also worked on claim Obama DOJ discriminated against white voters - child pornography

212 GOP Fundraiser Michael Centanni - child pornography https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/GOP-Fundraiser-Michael-Centanni-Pleads-Guilty-to-Child-Pornography-287555231.html

213 James City GOP Chair Charles K Young - child pornography

214 Republican Mayor Bill W Nelson of Stillwater NY, - child pornography - LONG history of it.

215 GOP Stockton mayor Anthony Silva - alcohol to minors, playing strip poker - he’s got a big felony trial in Nov for embezzlement, money laundering

216 CA Deputy AG Raymond Liddy, son of G. Gordon Liddy, child pornography. Some RW site call him a Dem because they call all nonpartisans Dems, but here’s over a decade of campaign giving

217 OK GOP State Sen Bryce Marlatt - sexual battery

218 OK GOP state Rep Dan Kirby - sexual harassment

219 Missouri GOP Speaker of the House Rod Jettons - pled guilty to assault, injuring a woman during “rough sex”

220 MT GOP state Rep Jason Priest - domestic violence

221 SC GOP state Rep Nelson Hardwick - accused of assault, pled guilty to sexual harassment

222 SC GOP state Rep Thad Viers, stalking and harassing ex-girlfriend - pled guilty now sentenced for money laundering

223 WI state Rep Bill Kramer - sexual assault

224 Illinois GOP Senate candidate Jack Ryan accused of coercing wife to have sex in front of people at sex clubs - the coercion is the issue. I don’t care about kinks

225 NC Baptist Minister, state Rep and County Commissioner Coy C. Privette - so soliciting prostitutes which would not be a thing, except he paid them by check, then reported the checks as stolen, the louse.

lol