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Three-Minute Video Explaining the Common Core State Standard

newtboy says...

You came up before common core, so what’s your excuse?

CRT is another red herring….it’s a law school class misrepresented as a movement to teach white children their ancestors and parents are evil. Total nonsense the right created just to have something to be angry about.
Now the same people want to erase any mention of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, red lining, etc as evil anti white “CRT”….banking on the idea that those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it.

Not surprising to hear your support for modern day book burning.

bobknight33 said:

My kids cam up though common core and it is a mess.

DeSantis is doing a fair job. Don't need CRT or other BS slanted course work.

Get back to basics

Three-Minute Video Explaining the Common Core State Standard

bobknight33 says...

My kids cam up though common core and it is a mess.

DeSantis is doing a fair job. Don't need CRT or other BS slanted course work.

Get back to basics

Three-Minute Video Explaining the Common Core State Standard

newtboy says...

When did national standardized testing stop? It’s been a thing in elementary school since the 60’s from everything I can find. If that’s really what common core is, I can’t fathom why some people get outraged over it. Without these standards, kids that switch schools will be at a distinct disadvantage even if they’re outstanding students because their new school will expect them to know things their old school hadn’t taught them.

Three-Minute Video Explaining the Common Core State Standard

BSR says...

Florida officials continued their war on education this week after rejecting more than 50 proposed math textbooks that allegedly “included references to Critical Race Theory.”

The Florida Department of Education announced Friday it would not include 54 of the 132 ― or 41% ― of math textbooks on the state’s adopted list, citing “CRT” as one of the main reasons.

“Reasons for rejecting textbooks included references to Critical Race Theory (CRT), inclusions of Common Core, and the unsolicited addition of Social Emotional Learning (SEL) in mathematics,” the statement said. “The highest number of books rejected were for grade levels K-5, where an alarming 71 percent were not appropriately aligned with Florida standards or included prohibited topics and unsolicited strategies.”

The state’s Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis said without evidence that the math textbooks “included indoctrinating concepts like race essentialism, especially, bizarrely, for elementary school students.”

DeSantis has been an outspoken critic of CRT, which has become a catchall term ― stripped of its original academic meaning ― for having discussions about racism in the classroom. Since last July, there have been more than 200 instances of public school districts in Florida banning books, the third highest number of incidents of any state in the U.S.

Democratic state Rep. Carlos Guillermo Smith said in a tweet that the governor “has turned our classrooms into political battlefields and this is just the beginning.” - https://www.huffpost.com/

New Math vs Old Math

Mordhaus says...

It's part of common core. Supposedly it makes it easier to understand the theory behind math so later in higher level classes (algebra, trig, etc) they can easily break the harder equations down.

Beats me, I learned the old way and it worked for me through algebra 1/2, and geometry.

Payback said:

What the fucking fuck is that all about?
That's ridiculous. All she's doing is spreading the equation apart.
Turning a compact process into a Gordian knot.

"Alternative Math" - The confusing times we live in

newtboy says...

Well, that's what I was taught were proofs, even if just proving simple addition....but that shouldn't be an introduction to math, I got them in geometry/algebra 2 my sophomore year.
Well, kids not understanding basic math isn't new either, senior year remedial math existed when I was in school, but wasn't the norm. If your assessment is correct, that's pretty sad.

All that said, I got paddled in 5th grade for insisting 4-5=-1. My teacher didn't understand negative numbers. Just saying, poor educators aren't a new thing, but they do suck ass.

The big problem is education is so politicised now that it's near impossible to figure out what's actually being taught and what stories are pure hyperbole. Here in the U.S. we've heard all kinds of insane claims about 'common core', most of which were bullshit, because making a federal standard for education wasn't what many wanted (how dare they tell us the war of northern aggression was about slavery, these slanderous accusations will not stand, sir) so a movement was born to oppose it by all means possible, which usually meant outrageous lies.
I'm really glad I don't have kids in school, I would probably home school them if I did.

bcglorf said:

Your missing the point though.

They start in grade 1/2 teaching you that 2+2=4 is incorrect. Instead you were supposed to write down:
2 is 1+1 and 1+1+1+1=4.

Then by grade 3/4 they are asked to solve 2+2. They now answer:
2 is 1+1 and 1+1+1+1=4

and are told incorrect. They are now supposed to use two different methods to solve the same problem and the correct answer is:
2 is the same as 1+1 so 1+1+1+1=4.
Alternately, 2 is 1 more than 1. I know 1+2 is 3, so If I add 1 that's 4.

Those aren't proofs. The addition operator isn't even a theorem to be proven, it's a definition.

I'm on board with teaching more advanced and abstract concepts in grade school. However, actually DO THAT. The stupidity of our provincial system is that they aren't doing that at all. They are performing all this mental masturbation to make basic arithmetic into some bastardised thing that kinda resembles proofs. You know, except the part where your 'proof' is worthless because solving 2+2 by replacing 2 with 1+1 is just substituting one axiom for another.

Teach kids the arithmetic and then teach them actual MATH proper, ideally easing them into the abstract aspect through algebra and not stupid tricks that fail to give them a good understanding of the actual concepts.

The point I underlined about Grade 11 still covering it is important. The students are being left so confused about what they are expected to give as an answer that so many still don't know basic arithmetic by Grade 11 that they still include it as part of the basic curriculum.

Ma n Pa Kettle teach the New Math

Michelle Obama on race in America

lantern53 says...

I heard it.

Funny how during the reign of the first black president we are closer to race war than we've ever been since the 1860s.

We also have numerous cops being ambushed and murdered, record unemployment, a Middle East on fire, etc etc etc.

Not even grammar school students are immune from the gov't interference, what with common core and school lunches that no one can tolerate.

What a mess.

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Standardized Testing

bobknight33 says...

These tests have been very corrosive for my son ( 4th grade). He has broken down time and time again , thrown-up and and all manner of anxiety for the EOG ( End of grade tests). Most of this is from math, which there is not even a book that they use. This even sickens me.

All based on common core -- my state, NC is close of abolishing it and hope it does.

My daughter is less effected by these but the EOG also gets to her.

Jeb Bush is all in for Common Core and for this I would never volt for this man.

( I would not vote for him for any other reason also.. Don't need another Bush/ or Clinton in the WH)

Bill Nye: Could Common Core be the antidote for Creationist

bobknight33 says...

Common core Puppet.

IS not what they need to learn its the methodology they use. Its' Fucked up.

7X4 is not 28 its 7 circles with 4 dots in each circle. This is the crap I face with my kids every day. It a round about way and hence illogical.

Rounding to the nearest thousand 9501 is 9000 but who rounds a number like this? normal rounding of a thousand involves a number worth rounding ex 210, 898 is rounded to to 211k out of convenience and where the hundreds are less important

Common Core U.S.A. ~ Re-Education & Indoctrination Learning

bobknight33 says...

Common core should be abolished.

My kids are living the hell that this big government, central command no escaping piece of shit education methodology that been pushed as a carrot and stick with Federal dollars for states to take.

But that is the real problem If all education was local or state controlled then if we don't like out state we could change it or move.
I believe all but 2 states have signed up for this crap.

Common Core U.S.A. ~ Re-Education & Indoctrination Learning

JiggaJonson says...

I'm not all for the Common Core because I've decided that teaching is an imperfect duty ( http://www.uark.edu/campus-resources/rlee/intrau04/oh/k-perf.html ).

What I mean is, the flexibility required of the duty of teaching makes it so hard nosed data collection is never going to accurately reflect the quality of the teaching being done. Therefore, the standardized testing that goes hand in hand with the common core should be abolished.

I have a student right now who can't stop his limbs from going numb and needs to constantly leave class because of some scary combination of ADHD meds and energy drinks he took. I've spoken with mom and the nurse, given him assignments, but beyond that there's not much I can do to reach out to this student. It is not fair or right that my pay be tied to a student(s) in a bizarre situation beyond my control.

And yes, I could be a teacher from pop culture films that follows him home and just mentors this kid, but this student is not alone. I've got literally 150 students all with unique problems and baggage. I get them for 5 hours a week (when they are actually there) and they spend the other 163 hours of the week doing who knows what.

THAT SAID

This video, however, has obvious motives besides just abolishing the common core. Sex education SHOULD be a part of the curriculum and states that adopt sex education tend to have the lowest incidents of teen pregnancies. Mississippi teaches their sex ed classes by passing around peppermint patties (yes, really: http://articles.latimes.com/2014/apr/02/nation/la-na-ms-teen-pregnancy-20140403 ) and, not surprisingly, has the highest incidents of teen pregnancy.

Get it through your fucking skull, religious nuts. Teaching sex ed PREVENTS kids from having sex, not the other way around.

Common core is certainly not something positive that's happened in the education system in the past year, but I'd still take it over what some jesus cheerleaders want to replace it with.

BUILDING THE MACHINE - The Common Core Documentary

chingalera says...

Alas, hope still for my own state of sequester which has told the Common Core to suck a dick.

Yeah, this common core bullshit is nothing but agenda-oriented think-tank implants/appointees working in tandem with politicians and their pals to guide the populous headfirst and forward into how to think like automatons and wage slaves without the capacity or will to fight the powers that bees.

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Arkansas Mother Obliterates Common Core in 4 Minutes!

sift_user_01 says...

Since both of us appear to be thinking about the same lines, the problem with common core isn't what it is trying to teach. Making sure people know how to do multiplication is good.

The problem is it is telling teachers how they must teach, and students how they must learn. This is the problem, and thankfully it is the problem most people identify with it, it is the same problem the parent here identifies with it. It isn't the what of common core, but the how.

direpickle said:

Kids can already be extremely hampered just because of where they went to school, which is what the CC (I'm assuming good intentions) was supposed to help. Obviously it is not doing a good job, but I think it's a matter of implementation rather than the idea itself.



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