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thinker247 says...

This is what I wrote to Obsidianfire:

"I never said anything about her beyond what I thought was a comparison (and exaggeration) of the moodonia episode, and I really wasn't trying to actually offend anybody. I mean, it is a roast, after all.

If I offended anybody, I really am sorry."

I will apologize to you, as well, if I offended you. My intention was to joke around, not to actually upset anybody.

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In reply to this comment by karkarlee:
Ima spam your profile with my lovins.

xxovercastxx says...

I wouldn't worry too much about long-term effects from this. Moodonia, I suspect, is perfectly ready to accept the apologies and move on and nobody else really has much business being offended. Either way, most people here seem to forget and move on pretty quickly. I think some of the members here are one step from starting an anti-overcast club, but that's only after years of hard work expressing unpopular opinions on my part. ;-)

In reply to this comment by karkarlee:
I asked Justin to tell him to back off, I didn't mean for him to go off the handle like he did. He was upset from multiple ( serious ) things beforehand, so it was just really bad timing. He's rarely like that, and when he is it's in my defense. And now a some of VS is not going to want to do anything with us, 'cause they don't want to try to understand both sides, just one. :]

Yesterday was just a really shitty day, didn't go well at all. But apologies have been made and they're meant, so hopefully all the angered people will be able to cool down a bit.. Hopefully sooner than later.

In reply to this comment by xxovercastxx:
I want to say up front that I'm not trying to drag this out and I honestly mean what I'm about to say as constructive advice, not criticism or argument.

I understand what you're saying about being afraid that your comment might not be taken seriously, but you have some obligation to state your opinion to a would-be harasser anyway. The key to sexual harassment is that the advances are unwanted. You have to make that clear to the other person and give them the opportunity to correct their behavior. It wouldn't be fair for them to face disciplinary measures without ever knowing they were doing something wrong.

xxovercastxx says...

I want to say up front that I'm not trying to drag this out and I honestly mean what I'm about to say as constructive advice, not criticism or argument.

I understand what you're saying about being afraid that your comment might not be taken seriously, but you have some obligation to state your opinion to a would-be harasser anyway. The key to sexual harassment is that the advances are unwanted. You have to make that clear to the other person and give them the opportunity to correct their behavior. It wouldn't be fair for them to face disciplinary measures without ever knowing they were doing something wrong.

In reply to this comment by karkarlee:
Since this is all up in the face, I'll post what I said to LittleRed here:

"Harassment means any comment or behaviour that is unwelcome, offensive, demeaning, humiliating, derogatory, or is otherwise inappropriate or fails to respect the dignity of an individual."

I've had a LOT of trouble with men before: emotionally, physically, and sexually. Even if it's just a joke, guys flirting with me reminds me of the bad experiences I've had. Justin knows that, so he's protective of me in that sense. I asked him to respond, because I didn't know whether or not I would be taken seriously for my comment, 'cause I'm a chick and asshole guys I've been around haven't taken me seriously because of that.

Experience leads to reactions, and I've had guys say that kinda shit to me and mean it. I'm pretty cautious, it's just the way my life has made me. Lay offa Justin, he's just trying to protect me in the way most guys I know do - by defending at all costs, reputation included. ( Also, before you go saying - this is the internet! - I've had problems online too. )

Just.. calm down for a bit. I'm sorry if anything here personally offended you. People get upset and say shit without thinking of exactly how it'll be understood; it's a natural, human mistake. Most problems in the world arise because of misunderstandings. It has nothing to do with maturity. Mistakes and rash emotions happen at all ages, whether the person is mature or immature.

LittleRed says...

In reply to this comment by karkarlee:
"Harassment means any comment or behaviour that is unwelcome, offensive, demeaning, humiliating, derogatory, or is otherwise inappropriate or fails to respect the dignity of an individual."

I've had a LOT of trouble with men before: emotionally, physically, and sexually. Even if it's just a joke, guys flirting with me reminds me of the bad experiences I've had. Justin knows that, so he's protective of me in that sense. I asked him to respond, because I didn't know whether or not I would be taken seriously for my comment, 'cause I'm a chick and asshole guys I've been around haven't taken me seriously because of that.

Experience leads to reactions, and I've had guys say that kinda shit to me and mean it. I'm pretty cautious, it's just the way my life has made me. Lay offa Justin, he's just trying to protect me in the way most guys I know do - by defending at all costs, reputation included. ( Also, before you go saying - this is the internet! - I've had problems online too. )

Just.. calm down for a bit. I'm sorry if anything here personally offended you. People get upset and say shit without thinking of exactly how it'll be understood; it's a natural, human mistake. Most problems in the world arise because of misunderstandings. It has nothing to do with maturity. Mistakes and rash emotions happen at all ages, whether the person is mature or immature.


Sure, it sucks that you have man trouble. You're not unique in that respect - you have a vagina. It comes with the territory. But you obviously take things way too seriously. Examples:

1) "I've had guys say that kinda shit to me and mean it." So you really mean that the comment itself wasn't offensive, but you thought it might lead to something else that might be. You've made it obvious to everyone who has at least one eye that you're taken. If the fact that someone only sees part of your online personality isn't enough to deter them, the fact that you're taken or that you live on another continent should be.

2) Yes, this is the internet. "Problems online" are never only the fault of one person. A constant barrage of emails or messages is a "problem?" You shouldn't have given out your email address. Now block theirs. Someone thought you were attractive, got your number from any number of places where you advertised it, and started calling you? Set all your profiles to private and only give out your number in private messages. Sure, you'll still get messages from strange guys every once in a while telling you you're attractive, and how they wish you'd accept their friend request, or call them, or meet them for coffee. If you ignore shit like that in the first place, they give up.

3) You didn't know if you would be taken seriously, so you didn't say anything at all and waited for your big, bad bodyguard to back you up? That's even more reason not to take you seriously. You made zero attempt to right the problem yourself. It's oh-so-much more meaningful if you do just that; then take in back-up if you need it.

And make sure your back-up doesn't look like a fool. "Hey, that makes her uncomfortable. I know you probably didn't mean anything by it, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't do that again," works MUCH better than "I'll knock all your teeth out and rip your face up if you so much as think of saying that again."

Like I said in the thread, empty threats on the internet are nothing but immature. ESPECIALLY if they are made in front of an entire community. Do the classy thing next time and keep it to the private profile messages.

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