Still less disturbing than anything at the ole Frog and Peach https://videosift.com/video/Frog-And-Peach *quality childhood scarring dish
1) Yes they are...they are his and his group's interpretations of other people's studies (unsupported interpretations the studies authors almost always disagree with)...I just saw a video of him shouting it at people on the street. His, and his cohorts that also lie about health issues to convert the gullible to their cause. You see, it's exactly as I warned long ago, when you use statements from known liars to back up proven lies, no one trusts what you claim or those you reference to corroborate you at all anymore. 2) If they aren't his claims, then why post a video of him with a crowd shouting them....why mention him and his dishonest groups at all? Edit: oops, forgot you didn't post this one, but you do post him all the time. 3) Nope. Not trolling. Contradicting knowingly false statements....with scientific evidence and math on my side. I understand you are trying to insult, guilt, and shame people away from examining and debunking your claims, for myself, that only makes me want to examine more closely to see how deep the misunderstanding and misstatement of facts goes, exposing it so it doesn't spread. Have you dropped the insane claim that risk increases 18% for every single slice of bacon consumed? (Yes, that's what you claimed) You stopped defending it, so i think so, but you never admit your misstatements, so who knows? Interesting you ignored the second paragraph completely, since it proves your miraculous cancer claims are fantasy.
They aren't his claims though. That's what I'm trying to get you to understand. You guys have to be trolling me, because I know you are smarter than this.
Likely because the messenger is well known for lying about the science. If his claims were true, established vegans would never get cancer or heart disease and meat eaters would all have cancer.
You're focusing on the messenger, and ignoring the science again. Feel free to look up the study yourself, they make no effort to hide it, and it lists the journal it's from in the corner. The conclusion is the same though, even if Hitler was talking about this study, the results wouldn't change. Vegan diets based on whole plant foods protect and reverse cancers. (and heart-disease.)
Thanks and thanks and thanks again...and what the hell, one more thanks for beet loaf. Not in the third circle of hell could such a fetid concoction be justly served.....that's nasty.
LOL vegan beet loaf. *Quality *doublepromote
Lol. Know a lot of crack heads, do you? A piece of the puzzle falls into place. It's telling that you equate accepting minimal increased risk of eating bacon daily with the across the board inescapable destruction caused by crack addiction....and exemplifies your penchant for hyperbole and exaggeration coupled with snide insults. You love to deride anyone who disagrees with your unsupported extreme positions based on activist "doctors" intentional misinterpretations of studies as ignorant, dumb, incapable of understanding, and now a crackhead. It's sad you can't see how much damage you do your own cause with your constant exaggerations and tantrums when they're challenged. I don't think you're changing minds the way you want.
Because you're acting like a crackhead that's just been told he needs to get clean.
Huh? What makes you assume I'm offended...and by what? Sounds like deflection to me....again.
You've been calling me protein deficient last few videos and what not, and now you're offended when I give a little back? Awww poor baby.
I like carrots, and if eating a full serving a day increased my lifetime risk for one cancer from 5-6%, I would eat exactly the same amount of carrots, but if I could reduce that risk increase based on the soil I grow them in or other factors under my control I would. ...and there aren't 800 studies saying bacon CAUSES cancer, there are studies that indicate eating it regularly increases your risk slightly....but I know, that's too advanced a concept, better to just fudge it and lie by telling people it's conclusive that each slice of bacon increases your cancer risk by 18% and insult anyone who corrects you. Fuck. I drive, that's risky. Walking is risky. I use my bathroom....risky. I weld, super risky, use power tools, risky, breath in America, that's far more risky than bacon, drink water here, risk, go outside in public, all kinds of risks. If a 1% increase in one area of risk stops you, you would be dead already. You choose your risks, you just want to choose other people's risks too, because they aren't getting scared of what you want. Plenty could make me quit bacon. Again, you spout nonsense you know nothing about. A simple lack of curing would make me not eat it, proof the supply chain is contaminated with human parasites or certain diseases. A slightly higher risk factor for one type of cancer, fuck no, you know that's not enough to dissuade most people from things they enjoy, that's why you exaggerate. I don't claim to know what made you that way, but you are hyper biased towards all things vegan and against all things non vegan which results in constant dishonesty. No question at all.
Allow me to demonstrate your bias in this situation. Q: if instead of bacon, what if they had 800 studies showing that, say, carrots cause cancer. Would you be arguing about the stats, or would you stop eating carrots? I'm pretty sure you'd stop eating carrots. But because you enjoy bacon so much, it's having a impact on your reasoning. That is your bias. I can prove this further by asking you what it would take to make you give up bacon. And I'm quite sure you would say nothing. Perhaps short of some instant effect, I know you would never stop eating it, no matter strong the evidence. In fact many people don't. They rather go blind and hav their legs amputated from preventable diabetes than give up their instant comfort foods. They are so biased they lose their own limbs, and still refuse to accept the reality. You also you like to claim that me being vegan makes me biased. But the truth is that the Science made me vegan. And not the other way around. The reduction of animal cruelty is just a bonus.
So you don't understand math or statistics? Stop spouting them then. I've explained your mistake repeatedly, you are not repeating what they said, you are twisting and exaggerating it to support your hypothesis. (Unscrupulous) People can come up with statistics to prove anything....forfty percent of all people know that. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7tzfl1wTemM Stress is a major cause of heart disease. That is no joke.
Exaggerating what exactly? All I'm doing is repeating the WHO and WCRF lines of. "DON'T EAT PROCESSED MEAT, IT CAUSES CANCER" it's a bit hard to exaggerate such a clear message. Incessant worrying not required, you simply leave it off your shopping list like you do with asbestos, radioactive materials, and tobacco. People aren't dying by the millions from worrying about risk factors. But they are dying from preventable forms of heart-disease and cancer. This is no joke.
It's not time you lack, I got an A in statistics which I took after advanced placement B/C calculus, thank you. Please stop hyper exaggerating the danger of all animal products and the benefits of veganism. No, we're acting like +1% lifetime risk of one type of cancer, from 5%-6%, is a totally acceptable level of risk to trade for a lifetime of pleasure when taken knowingly, and is a far cry from +18% every time you eat bacon. It's probably far less than the additional risk of drinking municipal water, or breathing anywhere East of the West coast, certainly exponentially less than breathing air in any major metropolitan area, or living within 25 miles of a military base or airport. I'm also acting like people who lie about or misrepresent the stats only prove their position is untenable and that they're untrustworthy. If 1% total increased lifetime risk is enough to make your point, why erroneously claim +18% per serving? It makes it so easy to dismiss and overlook any real point you might have had. Nothing is unanimous, and that goes double for nutritional advice. Somewhere there's a doctor that insists you can't possibly get enough nitrates, most would say if you're healthy go ahead and have some bacon...in moderation. My doctor and numerous documentaries say the stress of worrying incessantly about every little risk factor is a much bigger risk factor than almost any other for innumerable disorders and diseases. I'll take his advice, thanks.
I don't have time to teach you statistics. Stop trying to downplay the danger. And for the third time, even if it is 1%, that's still millions of people suffering from colon cancer in the USA alone, but y'all are pretending like 1% is 0%. Regardless of the numbers THE RECOMMENDATION IS UNANIMOUSLY DO NOT EAT. Very clear language that leaves no room for dispute.
Yes, that number is in both posts, but you wrongly said risk rose not 1% but 18% per every 50g eaten (either would be wrong).....he correctly said it rose approximately 1% from 5%-6% overall lifetime risk for 50g per day eaters, which is an increase by 18%. To remind you, your exact words were.... "Also your stats are way off it's not 1% it's 18% for every 50g ..."
The statistics literally say 18% in both my link, and Mordhous' link. The only person misinterpreting it is you.
Since we're apparently talking again.... I have no problem with the WHO statistics, which state eating 50 grams PER DAY of processed meat increases a person's lifetime risk from 5%-6%. I do have a problem with ... individuals... misinterpreting them so outrageously that they claim an 18% risk increase for every 50g of bacon, then snidely insult others who actually have a much better grasp of the statistics and aren't trying to use them to mislead others....so I took it up with you. And my inner ass was clean when checked 3 years ago, thanks kindly for your concern.
Unfortunately there's nothing I can do to stop your comments from appearing once I'm on the page, but they are blanked out. I made the mistake of revealing your comment. But I can assure you I have learned from that mistake. If you don't like the statistics then take it up with the World Health Organisation. The other thing is, go and get a colonoscopy. Colon cancer can be symptom-less until spreads to your other organs. You likely already have it, and even if you don't I can guarantee you have the pre-cancerous polyps in there, everyone does, except for plant-based eaters.
Unfortunately there's nothing I can do to stop your comments from appearing once I'm on the page, but they are blanked out. I made the mistake of revealing your comment. But I can assure you I have learned from that mistake.
Lol. 18% increase per 50grams of bacon (and/or other processed meats) would mean I already have between a 40-80000% increased chance or better, might as well enjoy more bacon. I must have increased it >40% tonight alone with 3 thick pieces that were about .1lb (45g)each. Too late now by far.....and I don't enjoy bacon, I'm orgasmic about bacon. And here I thought you quit me.
Also your stats are way off it's not 1% it's 18% for every 50g according to the WHO after reviewing 800 studies. ... are you going to tell me you don't enjoy bacon?
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