Why it's good to have a dash camera!

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deathcowsays...

I unfortunately met a dude once who backed into my _parked_ and_unoccupied_ vehicle and still had the cajones to say it was my fault. He backed up without looking that there was somewhere for him to go. He told the police 'I beeped twice before backing up.' (I know, my unoccupied car should have heard the beeps and then moved itself.) My car was unusable afterwards.

It was a big commercial vehicle he hit me with. He wasn't carrying proper insurance and I think he lost his commercial drivers license over it. Thats when the fun started. He called me one day to say I had ruined his life and his business that day. And oh yeah, that he was coming over to rape my wife in front of me and then kill me.

This guy had a string of misdimeanors and a couple felonies by then. The Alaska State Troopers suggested I buy a pump shotgun and said, this guy has a history of assault, this guy has directly threatened you, if he steps on your property you do whatever you need.

Sarzysays...

>> ^deathcow:

This guy had a string of misdimeanors and a couple felonies by then. The Alaska State Troopers suggested I buy a pump shotgun and said, this guy has a history of assault, this guy has directly threatened you, if he steps on your property you do whatever you need.


That is quite possibly the most bad-ass advice ever given to anybody.

articiansays...

I backed into someone's car the other day and ruined his bumper. Then I left him a note, and he got in touch with me later to exchange insurance info.

... I figure it's worth letting the internet know not everyone's a shithead.

Peroxidesays...

The dude in this vid isn't that smart, he clearly points out his dash cam before he gets their names and insurance info. I suppose with the license plate, the cops might find them if they ran, but who knows.

Trancecoachsays...

In the past 3 months, I've had to get my car for three separate incidents in which the other guy was at fault.

However, only once of those three incidents did the other guy actually take responsibility -- when he irrefutably rear-ended me when I slowed down to accommodate traffic. The other two incidents were while the car was parked and unoccupied. If this keeps up, I may have to invest in 24/7 surveillance in my vehicle.

CrushBugsays...

Wife and I were stopped for a red light and the guy in front of us rolled backwards into us. Now we used to drive a truck with a big chrome bumper, so at that slow speed I don't imagine there was any damage, but when we started laughing was when stepped out of his car holding a chicken drumstick and walked up to my window and asked why we hit him. My wife and I replied simultaneously, "You backed into us!" He took a thoughtful bite of his chicken, chewed for a moment, then got back into his car and drove away.

What. The. Hell.

VoodooVsays...

I really want to get a dash cam for myself. Should be standard issue for crying out loud. Everyone drives nice when the cops are around but turn into Mr. Hyde when they're gone. Dash cams for everyone would put a stop to that.

Auger8says...

Imagine the world if dash cams were standard, no reckless driving, no speeding, no DUIs, 3 billion safer more aware drivers.

>> ^VoodooV:

I really want to get a dash cam for myself. Should be standard issue for crying out loud. Everyone drives nice when the cops are around but turn into Mr. Hyde when they're gone. Dash cams for everyone would put a stop to that.

pmkierstsays...

I got rear-ended by a guy at a light, drove me into the guy in front of me. The one who hit me claimed I backed into him. Um, sure, and the guy in front of me backed into me as well, right? The cop was having non of it, but I was amazed the guy tried. He actually claimed his car was *parked*, despite where all the accident debris was.

wraithsays...

>> ^Sarzy:

>> ^deathcow:
This guy had a string of misdimeanors and a couple felonies by then. The Alaska State Troopers suggested I buy a pump shotgun and said, this guy has a history of assault, this guy has directly threatened you, if he steps on your property you do whatever you need.

That is quite possibly the most bad-ass advice ever given to anybody.


Or, the most terribly wrong advice ever given.

Suppose he was hammered when he called and later comes by to apologize, maybe because his wife, his mom, his priest or even his parole officer told him to, he steps on your lawn and you shoot him with your new shotgun.

Sarzysays...

>> ^wraith:

>> ^Sarzy:
>> ^deathcow:
This guy had a string of misdimeanors and a couple felonies by then. The Alaska State Troopers suggested I buy a pump shotgun and said, this guy has a history of assault, this guy has directly threatened you, if he steps on your property you do whatever you need.

That is quite possibly the most bad-ass advice ever given to anybody.

Or, the most terribly wrong advice ever given.
Suppose he was hammered when he called and later comes by to apologize, maybe because his wife, his mom, his priest or even his parole officer told him to, he steps on your lawn and you shoot him with your new shotgun.


Oh, I didn't say it was good advice -- just bad-ass advice, like something out of a Charles Bronson movie.

littledragon_79says...

>> ^CheshireSmile:

my friend's first car, a minivan, was hit by other people 3 times. he was not in the car any of those times. he would just walk out to it to leave and see a brand new dent, or his bumper fell off.


Sounds like my life...every few months there's a new door ding or dent. And every time I wash my car I am forced to realize how many times this has happened.

Psychologicsays...

>> ^VoodooV:

I really want to get a dash cam for myself. Should be standard issue for crying out loud. Everyone drives nice when the cops are around but turn into Mr. Hyde when they're gone. Dash cams for everyone would put a stop to that.


Get a window mount and use a smartphone as a dashcam.

VoodooVsays...

>> ^Gallowflak:

And everyone becomes a paranoid, desperate loser in a desperately miserable society.


paranoid about what exactly?

If you're paranoid that you're going to hit someone with your car and get caught. Well I'm just going to say, "good"

Don't drive like you're the only one on the road and you'll be fine. It's really not that difficult to drive safely, nor do you really get to your destination significantly quicker if you drive recklessly.

Paybacksays...

>> ^Auger8:

Imagine the world if dash cams were standard, no reckless driving, no speeding, no DUIs, 3 billion safer more aware drivers.
>> ^VoodooV:
I really want to get a dash cam for myself. Should be standard issue for crying out loud. Everyone drives nice when the cops are around but turn into Mr. Hyde when they're gone. Dash cams for everyone would put a stop to that.



...completely negating the Fifth Ammendment in the US.

Just sayin.

gwiz665says...

A guy once backed into my car and drove off. It's always annoying when people try to avoid justice like that, but they get scared and shocked and then they don't think. I found out who it was and sneaked up on him in the dead of night and injected him with sodium thiopental to knock him out. When he woke up, I had wrapped his car up in plastic wrap and tied him to the hood of the car. After showing him a picture of my beat up Geo, I proceeded to make a few incisions into his neck and bleed him dry. Once he slipped out of consciousness, I sawed off his feet right at the middle of the shin, then middle of the thigh. Luckily, there wasn't really much blood, since it was all drained out through his severed carotid artery. From there it was a easy task splitting the body into small parts that could fit in the nice garbage bag. The torso was the most difficult, since it's unwieldy, but you can essentially chop it into four cubes and then it's easy to deal with, just be careful not to spill guts or internal organs anywhere. The north sea has some nice currents that dragged the sunken bags out into the ocean really well. Good times.
I also started watching Dexter lately.

messengersays...

The Fifth Amendment says nothing about dash cams. I did a word search both with and without the space.

But seriously, standard equipment on a car is not covered by the Fifth Amendment, mostly because private enterprise decides these, things based on attractiveness to the buyer, not by government based on Big-Brother-ness. Auger8 didn't say they should be legally required.
>> ^Payback:

>> ^Auger8:
Imagine the world if dash cams were standard, no reckless driving, no speeding, no DUIs, 3 billion safer more aware drivers.
>> ^VoodooV:
I really want to get a dash cam for myself. Should be standard issue for crying out loud. Everyone drives nice when the cops are around but turn into Mr. Hyde when they're gone. Dash cams for everyone would put a stop to that.


...completely negating the Fifth Ammendment in the US.
Just sayin.

Gallowflaksays...

>> ^VoodooV:

>> ^Gallowflak:
And everyone becomes a paranoid, desperate loser in a desperately miserable society.

paranoid about what exactly?
If you're paranoid that you're going to hit someone with your car and get caught. Well I'm just going to say, "good"
Don't drive like you're the only one on the road and you'll be fine. It's really not that difficult to drive safely, nor do you really get to your destination significantly quicker if you drive recklessly.


Paranoid simply because you know you're being observed and recorded, and that even the most minor transgression or accident could be easily punishable. Paranoid because every vehicle on the road has a camera pointed at you. Paranoid because living in a surveillance state is an awful thing, made even seedier when it's other citizens doing the surveilling.

The "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about" argument always makes my goddamn skin crawl.

I'm going to assume the rest of your comment was a general statement, rather than directed at me.

rottenseedsays...

That reminds me of this time that I was driving a commercial vehicle. I had cajones those days...the type of cajones that would allow me to back into a parked, unoccupied vehicle and blame it on the owner.

Anywho I lost my commercial driver's license for it and I totally blame the guy. It was his stupid car's stupid fault. I want to rape his wife and kill him. I'm going over there tonight, I hope he doesn't have a pump shotgun and implicit direction by the State Troopers to fire at will.>> ^deathcow:

I unfortunately met a dude once who backed into my _parked_ and_unoccupied_ vehicle and still had the cajones to say it was my fault. He backed up without looking that there was somewhere for him to go. He told the police 'I beeped twice before backing up.' (I know, my unoccupied car should have heard the beeps and then moved itself.) My car was unusable afterwards.
It was a big commercial vehicle he hit me with. He wasn't carrying proper insurance and I think he lost his commercial drivers license over it. Thats when the fun started. He called me one day to say I had ruined his life and his business that day. And oh yeah, that he was coming over to rape my wife in front of me and then kill me.
This guy had a string of misdimeanors and a couple felonies by then. The Alaska State Troopers suggested I buy a pump shotgun and said, this guy has a history of assault, this guy has directly threatened you, if he steps on your property you do whatever you need.

jmdsays...

Replying to Psychologic, for some reason quoting him made videosift just sit there when hitting the post button.

This is exactly what I did. I use a program for my android phone called dailyroads voyager. Before I had this phone I totally missed out on getting a shot of an SUV tumbling on i95 at 70mph. Saddly my optimus V dosn't take the most steller videos, but eventually I will upgrade to a phone that has a quality camera built in.

poolcleanersays...

>> ^deathcow:

I unfortunately met a dude once who backed into my _parked_ and_unoccupied_ vehicle and still had the cajones to say it was my fault. He backed up without looking that there was somewhere for him to go. He told the police 'I beeped twice before backing up.' (I know, my unoccupied car should have heard the beeps and then moved itself.) My car was unusable afterwards.
It was a big commercial vehicle he hit me with. He wasn't carrying proper insurance and I think he lost his commercial drivers license over it. Thats when the fun started. He called me one day to say I had ruined his life and his business that day. And oh yeah, that he was coming over to rape my wife in front of me and then kill me.
This guy had a string of misdimeanors and a couple felonies by then. The Alaska State Troopers suggested I buy a pump shotgun and said, this guy has a history of assault, this guy has directly threatened you, if he steps on your property you do whatever you need.


Please continue your story.

calvadossays...

>> ^deathcow:


This guy had a string of misdimeanors and a couple felonies by then. The Alaska State Troopers suggested I buy a pump shotgun and said, this guy has a history of assault, this guy has directly threatened you, if he steps on your property you do whatever you need.


So did you buy that shotty?

BoneRemakesays...

>> ^calvados:

>> ^deathcow:

This guy had a string of misdimeanors and a couple felonies by then. The Alaska State Troopers suggested I buy a pump shotgun and said, this guy has a history of assault, this guy has directly threatened you, if he steps on your property you do whatever you need.

So did you buy that shotty?


I bet he bought throwing knives and learned the skill. I bet deathcow can harpoon a baby seal with a pencil from 50 meters.

deathcowsays...

>> ^poolcleaner:

>> ^deathcow:
I unfortunately met a dude once who backed into my _parked_ and_unoccupied_ vehicle and still had the cajones to say it was my fault. He backed up without looking that there was somewhere for him to go. He told the police 'I beeped twice before backing up.' (I know, my unoccupied car should have heard the beeps and then moved itself.) My car was unusable afterwards.
It was a big commercial vehicle he hit me with. He wasn't carrying proper insurance and I think he lost his commercial drivers license over it. Thats when the fun started. He called me one day to say I had ruined his life and his business that day. And oh yeah, that he was coming over to rape my wife in front of me and then kill me.
This guy had a string of misdimeanors and a couple felonies by then. The Alaska State Troopers suggested I buy a pump shotgun and said, this guy has a history of assault, this guy has directly threatened you, if he steps on your property you do whatever you need.

Please continue your story.


I have a 12 ga shotgun now. I read a few Massad Ayoob books about firearm defense. I never heard from the psychotic guy again. I have seen him several times very up close in our local store in the years since, and though he doesn't recognize me anymore, I recognize him quite well. He looks physically ragged these days.

VoodooVsays...

>> ^Gallowflak:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^Gallowflak:
And everyone becomes a paranoid, desperate loser in a desperately miserable society.

paranoid about what exactly?
If you're paranoid that you're going to hit someone with your car and get caught. Well I'm just going to say, "good"
Don't drive like you're the only one on the road and you'll be fine. It's really not that difficult to drive safely, nor do you really get to your destination significantly quicker if you drive recklessly.

Paranoid simply because you know you're being observed and recorded, and that even the most minor transgression or accident could be easily punishable. Paranoid because every vehicle on the road has a camera pointed at you. Paranoid because living in a surveillance state is an awful thing, made even seedier when it's other citizens doing the surveilling.
The "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about" argument always makes my goddamn skin crawl.
I'm going to assume the rest of your comment was a general statement, rather than directed at me.


I understand where you're coming from and I respect it. But when you think about the world we live in now. The right to privacy has become kinda obsolete, IMO. When you think about it, you're watched/monitored and recorded in so many places in modern society that are all commonly accepted that the idea of privacy on a public road is silly.

You're watched and monitored by your friends..your family, your co-workers, your boss every day, every minute of your life. Every purchase you make with a debit/credit card is recorded which ultimately tracks your movements throughout the day

So from that perspective, the idea of being monitored on a publicly used road...for the sake of safety, for the sake of catching the lowlifes that hit and run....is an easy choice to make, IMO

The warning about trading freedom for security is not lost upon me. But I don't think we're really trading freedom, nor does it increase security. It merely adds accountability to ones actions. It's a public road we're talking about here and if there is a law on the books that you break on that public road and it's caught on camera...then you should pay the price. The right to privacy simply doesn't exist on a public road.

I'm also looking at this from the following viewpoint: How many worthless laws are out there on the books, that sound good on paper, but in reality, are worthless because it's impossible to enforce them. What if it was possible to enforce these laws BECAUSE of cameras everywhere?

In addition...why is it OK to police the police by filming them with our smartphones to ensure that they are doing their job properly, but it's not ok to film a reckless driver, endangering innocent lives out of this mis-placed desire of privacy?

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