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Two identical cards show up in high stakes poker game

Somehow during a high stakes poker game two identical cards get flopped and nobody notices for a bit. Never seen that happen before in my life. Trying to find an explanation of how it occurred.
Trancecoachsays...

Not kidding. Some poker is played with an extended deck, multiple decks, or stripped decks (where certain cards have been removed). But the reaction here gives the impression that it was a "mistake" (or a cheat), but not entirely unheard of. Makes for some freakish poker hands, like 5 Aces, etc.

eric3579said:

You're kidding,right? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you don't play or have never played poker.

ChaosEnginesays...

This is Texas Hold 'em, and it's only ever played with one deck. The entire point of texas hold 'em is that a good player can calculate the statistical probability of what he has versus what the other players have, because they can all see the community cards.

If you introduce a second deck, it would completely mess up all those statistics. It's possible there are multiple deck variants of poker, but this certainly isn't one of them.

Tournament poker is always played with one deck at a time.

Trancecoachsaid:

Not kidding. Some poker is played with an extended deck, multiple decks, or stripped decks (where certain cards have been removed). But the reaction here gives the impression that it was a "mistake" (or a cheat), but not entirely unheard of. Makes for some freakish poker hands, like 5 Aces, etc.

Chairman_woosays...

That's they key here it is played with one deck at a time, but there is often more than one deck knocking around in the shoe. Especially when playing at a high level they can swap decks as often as every couple of hands.

Cards quickly start to bend and warp & when the blinds alone are in the 100's or 1000's the cost of a new deck every few hands is pretty negligible. A decent casino will swap the decks frequently throughout a night/tournament.

The above should not happen if proper procedure is followed, one deck should never touch or mix with another, but I can see how it might happen by accident.

Other likely possibility is a manufacturing defect, though again with proper procedure that should be spotted when a new deck is spread out for the players to see. (also very unlikely with high grade decks).

ChaosEnginesaid:

Tournament poker is always played with one deck at a time.

ChaosEnginesays...

Yeah, I know that, but trance was suggesting you can have multiple decks in a hand (like in blackjack), which is pretty much unheard of in most poker games.

Chairman_woosaid:

That's they key here it is played with one deck at a time, but there is often more than one deck knocking around in the shoe. Especially when playing at a high level they can swap decks as often as every couple of hands.

Chairman_woosays...

Ok, yes you are totally right there.

I believe 11-12 players is generally considered the maximum for any given table, which leaves approx 50% of the cards in the deck for the dealer in any given hand.

Multiple decks in play would completely screw the probabilities and I too have pretty much never heard of it being done.

I assumed Trancecoach was referring to what I mentioned before, but reading it back you may be right.

Trance?

ChaosEnginesaid:

Yeah, I know that, but trance was suggesting you can have multiple decks in a hand (like in blackjack), which is pretty much unheard of in most poker games.

AeroMechanicalsays...

This is obviously pansy high roller poker. As soon as the hand was revealed, chains and knives and pistols should have been produced by all the players. At the very least, the dealer should have a sawed off shotgun duct taped under the table.

Nobody knows how to make good TV anymore.

BicycleRepairMansays...

Shoes are not used in poker, only blackjack. Obviously, there are hundreds of variations of poker, and one could pretty much make one up on the fly, so I'm sure it has happened, but in general, poker is always played with one, untampered, fresh deck of cards. I believe for high-stake games like this, they probably unwrap a new deck before each game. This is likely a production error, somehow 2 queens have snuck in in the factory somehow. Seeing as they were literally together in the deck, they probably were stuck and had not been shuffled apart yet.

Trancecoachsaid:

Um, does no one understand that poker and blackjack are played with multiple decks in the shoe?

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